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Nick doesnt have a job so has he been sponging off the benefit system?
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Enidan
14-05-2015
Of course he is not claiming benefits, are you mad? Why would anyone want to get involved in a system that labels you a fraud and a cheat and will certainly make you regret it with persecution and condemnation for even daring to apply for an entitlement when needed.
He obviously has other financial support and if he doesn't need to work and isn't harming anyone by that he can.
Get off your high horse.
nattoyaki
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Enidan:
“Of course he is not claiming benefits, are you mad? Why would anyone want to get involved in a system that labels you a fraud and a cheat and will certainly make you regret it with persecution and condemnation for even daring to apply for an entitlement when needed.
He obviously has other financial support and if he doesn't need to work and isn't harming anyone by that he can.
Get off your high horse.”

How on earth do the Royals get away with it then?
Enidan
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“How on earth do the Royals get away with it then? ”

They have no choice and make the best of the life they have been born into, as we all do.
Would you like to be a Royal and have limited freedom and no freedom of expression as seen by the Spider Memos released yesterday.
They pay the price for their entitlement by relinquishing basic human rights.
haphash
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Phoebica:
“Considering he is only 19 it's a bit harsh to say "all his life." Plus he has had jobs in the past and his family are wealthy so i doubt he has ever "sponged off the benefit system"”

I agree with this post. Give the guy a break.
He probably hasn't decided what he wants to do with his life yet and if his parents can afford to support him that's their business.
rhizo_mania
14-05-2015
If I was rich and a child of mine didn't want to work, I would support them financially, after all the only reason why most people go to work is because they have to for the money, so if you can support your child do so and let someone else have that job.....
acid rain
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“If I was rich and a child of mine didn't want to work, I would support them financially, after all the only reason why most people go to work is because they have to for the money, so if you can support your child do so and let someone else have that job.....”

Yes, that's the philosophy my parents had and I turned out okay.
Odette Valmont
14-05-2015
I think we can safely assume Nick is from a privileged background so it's very unlikely he has been living on benefits. He most likely lives off his parents, and so what? His parents have probably worked hard to provide a good life for their son. More power to him I say!
acid rain
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“I think we can safely assume Nick is from a privileged background so it's very unlikely he has been living on benefits. He most likely lives off his parents, and so what? His parents have probably worked hard to provide a good life for their son. More power to him I say!”


Why is it considered more wrong to sponge off the state then your own parents?
Odette Valmont
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“Why is it considered more wrong to sponge off the state then your own parents?”

I don't know... Maybe, as a tax payer, I have a problem paying for workshy layabouts who are in no position to refuse work.

Wealthy parents who choose to fund their childrens' lifestyles is a private matter and has nothing to do with anybody else. I don't see how anyone could realistically have a problem with that, unless they're bitter Marxists who resent the rich simply for being rich.
nattoyaki
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Enidan:
“They have no choice and make the best of the life they have been born into, as we all do.”

So apart from unlimited wealth, and the ability for the Queen to end world hunger, poverty and need three times over without barely breaking a sweat, they are exactly the same as us?

Oh it's a hard life for them...

Originally Posted by Enidan:
“Would you like to be a Royal and have limited freedom and no freedom of expression as seen by the Spider Memos released yesterday.
They pay the price for their entitlement by relinquishing basic human rights.”

They have far more freedom than you seem to think (ever heard of Prince Harry's antics? What - not a single one?!! Andrew? Fergie? Diana? Margaret? Charles? Good old Mountbatten and what he got up to? Philip and Liz's marriage rumours? Any of the others? Obviously not - off to history 101 with ye - I want to be glib and say 'for starters' go straight to Will Carling with ya and do not pass Hewitt!!!' but I would really like to see you get a clue). I don't mean to be rude but I don't think you will.

Have you seen Allen's film about Diana called 'Unlawful Killing'? I'm not saying believe it all (or don't) but it's interesting. That dead Eastern European girl who turned at Balmoral a few yards from where Philip and crew had been out shooting the previous day, not even questioned by police as a matter of courtesy (not saying he or they had anything to do with it whatsoever but, think that would happen in your garden and you not even be questioned???).

My goodness I have no idea what planet you're living on but it sounds idyllic!

I'd rather be a Royal and have limited freedom and unlimited wealtrh (which I would actually do something good with, unlike them) than be a poor peasant with even more limited freedom, lorded it over by them.

Blimey, talk about turkeys voting for Christmas.
acid rain
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“I don't know... Maybe, as a tax payer, I have a problem paying for workshy layabouts who are in no position to refuse work.

Wealthy parents who choose to fund their childrens' lifestyles is a private matter and has nothing to do with anybody else. I don't see how anyone could realistically have a problem with that, unless they're bitter Marxists who resent the rich simply for being rich.”


SO in other words you just hate the poor and love the rich.

Rich spongers good. Poor spongers bad... Pathetic. You have no problem with rich kids who are layabouts just because their parents work hard,lol.

PS- you do realise sucking up to the rich won't make you anymore wealthy don't you?
Odette Valmont
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“SO in other words you just hate the poor and love the rich.

Rich spongers good. Poor spongers bad... Pathetic. You have no problem with rich kids who are layabouts just because their parents work hard,lol.

PS- you do realise sucking up to the rich won't make you anymore wealthy don't you?”

No, don't twist my words. I don't hate the poor or love the rich... There are plenty of hard working "poor" people, who respect that they must work for a living like the rest of us. Of course I have a problem with those that cheat the system... Why should we taxpayers (including the poor) be ripped off just because some people can't get off their behinds and find a job.

Rich "spongers" are in a position where they don't have to work, and good luck to them. If wealthy parents want their children to live an easy life of luxury with the money they've earned, so what? It's not impacting my life. At the end of the day, people work to live. I don't know, say if you won the Euromillions tomorrow would you carry on working? I highly doubt it... I know I wouldn't.

To me it seems like you just hate the rich because you're not one of them. I don't suck up to the rich either... I just have nothing against them, provided they pay their taxes and abide by the law.
fredster
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“You should do some research.”

Well said!
Lauren_Perry1
14-05-2015
They said he was once a butler, and so what if he doesn't work, his family are rich, why work if you can get money for free? And what's the big deal if someone is on benefits? I worked for 6 years and paid tax and didn't moan about unemployment like it was me that was paying for people to not work, then I quit, and didn't feel bad getting benefits. TBH I can't be bothered with 9 to 5 anymore, I make my money now through benefits and also have a job on the side, and it is the same job as Helen, and no not owning a salon, the other one. I don't have to work 9 to 5 and I don't care if everyone else wants to slave away and pay stupid tax to the stupid government. Also, claiming angers old Hopkins, and as long as that vulture is angry I'm happy!
acid rain
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“No, don't twist my words. I don't hate the poor or love the rich... There are plenty of hard working "poor" people, who respect that they must work for a living like the rest of us. Of course I have a problem with those that cheat the system... Why should we taxpayers (including the poor) be ripped off just because some people can't get off their behinds and find a job.

Rich "spongers" are in a position where they don't have to work, and good luck to them. If wealthy parents want their children to live an easy life of luxury with the money they've earned, so what? It's not impacting my life. At the end of the day, people work to live. I don't know, say if you won the Euromillions tomorrow would you carry on working? I highly doubt it... I know I wouldn't.

To me it seems like you just hate the rich because you're not one of them. I don't suck up to the rich either... I just have nothing against them, provided they pay their taxes and abide by the law.”

I don't hate the rich. My parents happen to support me.

I don't have anything against the rich either. I just don't like seeing anyone attacking the vulnerable poor.

There are plenty of disabled people for instance who couldn't work even if they wanted to. But I'm sure by your logic they should get out of their wheelchairs and look for non existent jobs. Even though there are more unemployed then there are jobs.
Fanntastik
14-05-2015
His parents? they are probably supporting him.
Lauren_Perry1
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“I don't hate the rich. My parents happen to support me.

I don't have anything against the rich either. I just don't like seeing anyone attacking the vulnerable poor.

There are plenty of disabled people for instance who couldn't work even if they wanted to. But I'm sure by your logic they should get out of their wheelchairs and look for non existent jobs. Even though there are more unemployed then there are jobs.”

Exactly, that poster probably has a Hopkins shrine in his bedsit, there are not enough jobs for everyone so how can people get them if there are none, perhaps people unemployed should just all become homeless and starve to death then Mr I Work For A Living will sleep easy knowing his taxes are lining the pockets of already rich politicians!
Odette Valmont
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“I don't hate the rich. My parents happen to support me.

I don't have anything against the rich either. I just don't like seeing anyone attacking the vulnerable poor.

There are plenty of disabled people for instance who couldn't work even if they wanted to. But I'm sure by your logic they should get out of their wheelchairs and look for non existent jobs. Even though there are more unemployed then there are jobs.”

You seem to have made the assumption I'm against anybody receiving welfare benefits. We were on the topic of so-called "spongers". Why would you assume I think that the disabled are in that category? Of course people who are unable to work should receive benefits. I have no problem with those that are actively seeking employment receiving benefits either. Again, you seem to be twisting my words and making silly assumptions.
Scarlett Berry
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Enidan:
“They have no choice and make the best of the life they have been born into, as we all do.
Would you like to be a Royal and have limited freedom and no freedom of expression as seen by the Spider Memos released yesterday.
They pay the price for their entitlement by relinquishing basic human rights.”

Oh come on..in the words of J Mc Enroe...you really cannot be serious
acid rain
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“You seem to have made the assumption I'm against anybody receiving welfare benefits. We were on the topic of so-called "spongers". Why would you assume I think that the disabled are in that category? Of course people who are unable to work should receive benefits. I have no problem with those that are actively seeking employment receiving benefits either. Again, you seem to be twisting my words and making silly assumptions.”


You made silly assumptions about me 'hating the rich'. I'm pretty sure you even tried to imply that you thought I was a 'bitter Marxist', which couldn't be further from the truth.

It's not nice when people make assumptions is it? I was just turning the tables.
Odette Valmont
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“You made silly assumptions about me 'hating the rich'. I'm pretty sure you even tried to imply that you thought I was a 'bitter Marxist', which couldn't be further from the truth.

It's not nice when people make assumptions is it? I was just turning the tables.”

I didn't make the assumption that you were a bitter Marxist, it was more of a general comment, not directly aimed at you. Although, if the shoe fits etc

I think it was I who turned the tables. You assumed I hated the poor and sucked up to the rich after all.
Enidan
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“So apart from unlimited wealth, and the ability for the Queen to end world hunger, poverty and need three times over without barely breaking a sweat, they are exactly the same as us?

Oh it's a hard life for them...”

Errrr....right. How do you suggest she can do this?

Quote:
“They have far more freedom than you seem to think (ever heard of Prince Harry's antics? What - not a single one?!! Andrew? Fergie? Diana? Margaret? Charles? Good old Mountbatten and what he got up to? Philip and Liz's marriage rumours? Any of the others? Obviously not - off to history 101 with ye - I want to be glib and say 'for starters' go straight to Will Carling with ya and do not pass Hewitt!!!' but I would really like to see you get a clue). I don't mean to be rude but I don't think you will.

Have you seen Allen's film about Diana called 'Unlawful Killing'? I'm not saying believe it all (or don't) but it's interesting. That dead Eastern European girl who turned at Balmoral a few yards from where Philip and crew had been out shooting the previous day, not even questioned by police as a matter of courtesy (not saying he or they had anything to do with it whatsoever but, think that would happen in your garden and you not even be questioned???).

My goodness I have no idea what planet you're living on but it sounds idyllic!

I'd rather be a Royal and have limited freedom and unlimited wealtrh (which I would actually do something good with, unlike them) than be a poor peasant with even more limited freedom, lorded it over by them.

Blimey, talk about turkeys voting for Christmas.”

Do you also remember Diana being killed because she was being chased by paparazzi everywhere she went. Everything the Royals do is heavily scrutinized and judged and you call that freedom?

The wealth the Royal Family have is not unlimited and they can't do what they want with it, it all has to be accounted for.

What a blinkered view point you have. I doubt you would last a day working as a Royal.
Scarlett Berry
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Enidan:
“Errrr....right. How do you suggest she can do this?

They have far more freedom than you seem to think (ever heard of Prince Harry's antics? What - not a single one?!! Andrew? Fergie? Diana? Margaret? Charles? Good old Mountbatten and what he got up to? Philip and Liz's marriage rumours? Any of the others? Obviously not - off to history 101 with ye - I want to be glib and say 'for starters' go straight to Will Carling with ya and do not pass Hewitt!!!' but I would really like to see you get a clue). I don't mean to be rude but I don't think you will.



Do you also remember Diana being killed because she was being chased by paparazzi everywhere she went. Everything the Royals do is heavily scrutinized and judged and you call that freedom?

What a blinkered view point you have. I doubt you would last a day working as a Royal.”

Null. Wrong post
acid rain
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“I didn't make the assumption that you were a bitter Marxist, it was more of a general comment, not directly aimed at you. Although, if the shoe fits etc

I think it was I who turned the tables. You assumed I hated the poor and sucked up to the rich after all. ”


I only assumed that you hated the poor after you made your Marxist quip.

I'm not political enough to be some kind of socialist/communist.
Enidan
14-05-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Oh come on..in the words of J Mc Enroe...you really cannot be serious”

Yes I am. Being in the Royal Family is a like being in a guilded prison.
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