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Old 15-06-2015, 20:10
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I really annoys me when people do this, use some words not a link to a picture, article or video, if you want to quote something relevant, cut n paste it with a link to the original piece.
I hate these random links and don't click them, gives me the irrit.
Type some words with the keyboard and hit submit or just keep schtum if you're too lazy to do that IMO.

Anyway it was interesting enough show, don't know why Matilda and Katherine Parkinson's characters were so horrible, although the latter's character just seemed to be struggling generally.
Matilda needed a good kick in the hole.
I don't need to like characters to watch them, but those two were just a bit too much for me, I'll keep watching though.

It really annoys me when people use these text speak letter abbreviations like IMO !!!

If you are too lazy too type the words, just forget it !!


I am gonna keep watching so I can see Vera in uniform! Middle aged sexy domestics do it for me .
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Old 15-06-2015, 20:12
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This episode was a little slow but it's a pilot so that's to be expected. I enjoyed it though, the ending was particularly interesting as I didn't expect anything like that to happen with Anita or at least a few episodes. Could she be taking the daughter to protect her because she perceives the older daughter to be a threat? That's my first thought.
I thought it was a little too quick if anything! As mentioned with this post:

That's one of the parts I felt was far too rushed compared to the original. You basically had a couple of minutes of this bloke in his house and his wife working away and then he goes and impulse buys a hubot. It was done much better in the original and had more background story to it.

I guess CH4 had to cut some corners though, as theirs is only 8 episodes of about 45mins, whereas the Swedish one is 10 episodes lasting about an hour each.
Admittedly sci-fi futuristic stuff isn't usually my thing, but with the load of C4 advertising on the programme, I thought I try it. Not bad despite the quickness of events. The entire family got on my wick with exception to the son and I am more of the side of Anita by the end, even when she walked off with the younger daughter. I can see why some think Anita may be doing so to protect her, especially from the mum (when she moaned about the book reading and being burned in the kitchen) and the sister (just pure misery and obnoxious and from nowhere aiming a (bb?) gun).

Not a bad debut, it hasn't made me desperate for the next episode but I like that it's something different from the usual dramas and for a Sunday night it is seeming the most interesting for that time slot.

Overall, an interesting episode. Very creepy at points and Gemma Chan plays Anita brilliantly. The husband shoving the Adults Only 18+ info about Synths in his back pocket made me cringe but everything else was great. Roll on next week.
Totally missed that.
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Old 15-06-2015, 20:20
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Humans achieved record numbers for Channel 4 on Sunday night, overnight data reveals.

The new sci-fi series brought in an average audience of 3.45 million (15.6%) at 9pm, with an added 586,000 (3.7%) on +1. This is the highest-rated launch of an original drama series on Channel 4 since records began in 2002.
My immediate response to this was wow that's amazing but then I figured it might be attracting quite a wide audience as lots of people on here seem to watch other sci-fi. I've never watched any sci-fi - I don't even like the genre - but I watched this show and stuck with the whole episode and thought it was good. I will probably give it a go next week but if it gets any creepier I will have to stop.

Someone mentioned back stories. Does anyone have a link to where they are?
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Old 15-06-2015, 20:29
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Humans achieved record numbers for Channel 4 on Sunday night, overnight data reveals.

The new sci-fi series brought in an average audience of 3.45 million (15.6%) at 9pm, with an added 586,000 (3.7%) on +1. This is the highest-rated launch of an original drama series on Channel 4 since records began in 2002.
I suspect it may lose some viewers next Sunday, some won't like the slow pace.
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Old 15-06-2015, 20:38
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I'm sure you know this means nothing to most viewers. We are watching a new show on C4.
Sorry to disappoint you but you aren't you are actually watching a remake of a Swedish series from 2012 called Äkta människor (Real Humans).
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Old 15-06-2015, 20:52
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Sorry to disappoint you but you aren't you are actually watching a remake of a Swedish series from 2012 called Äkta människor (Real Humans).
I have no idea. I'm not Swedish. But I wouldn't find it remotely disappointing either way.

I suspect it may lose some viewers next Sunday, some won't like the slow pace.
I admit I don't watch a lot of drama on TV but I'm surprised this is perceived to be slow.
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Old 15-06-2015, 20:54
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I admit I don't watch a lot of drama on TV but I'm surprised this is perceived to be slow.
Me too.
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Old 15-06-2015, 21:03
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Did anyone else think that the rogue cyborgs were being portrayed as being a bit too human? Especially the one in the brothel where she was talking to Colin Morgan in a way that was exactly like a human complete with the speech patterns and illogical behaviour. The human personality is an extremely complex thing and there's no way that any programme or AI could replicate it in that way.
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Old 15-06-2015, 21:49
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I admit I don't watch a lot of drama on TV but I'm surprised this is perceived to be slow.
Not much happened and the dialogue was slow, why I think it's slow paced or a slow burner. I'm sure it'll will pick up soon.
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Old 15-06-2015, 22:02
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Overall, an interesting episode. Very creepy at points and Gemma Chan plays Anita brilliantly. The husband shoving the Adults Only 18+ info about Synths in his back pocket made me cringe but everything else was great. Roll on next week.
I've also read posts elsewhere from people that were surprised it had 'scenes of an adult nature' announced?!
Er, hello.. the drama was on after the watershed. That's enough indication that it will not be suitable for children.
Honestly, I sometimes wonder how some people tick?
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Old 15-06-2015, 23:07
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I enjoyed it though someone should ask Emma Willis if she is a synth?
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Old 16-06-2015, 09:19
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Maybe there should be 2 threads for this show - one for people to comment on the show, and the other for the handful of people who have seen the Swedish original where they can go on and on about how it was so superior to the C4 offering, and bask in their mutual admiration of their membership of the discerning viewing elite?

Anyhow, I'm surprised that some folks think it's a bit slow - it seems rushed to me.
We had hubby down at the Synth shop in the first 5 minutes, youngest child bonding with the Synth more than her bio. mother, elder daughter being a royal pita and trying to shoot it, rogue Synths on the run, William Hurt and his malfunctioning Synth, wife with some sort of hidden secret, and Synth abducting small child - all in 45 mins. or so of actual programme time.

Question - is Merlin meant to be a Synth? If he is, he's not making much effort to appear to be one, unlike Gemma Chan, who is quite plausible.
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Old 16-06-2015, 09:35
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Maybe there should be 2 threads for this show - one for people to comment on the show, and the other for the handful of people who have seen the Swedish original where they can go on and on about how it was so superior to the C4 offering, and bask in their mutual admiration of their membership of the discerning viewing elite?

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Get the chip of your shoulder, dude.

This is a forum for people who have a strong interest in and knowledge of TV.

As the Swedish version was on first it is natural for people who have seen it to compare the two and, if they are big fans, get annoyed if the English version does not include some of the elements they liked about the original.
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Old 16-06-2015, 09:37
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Maybe there should be 2 threads for this show - one for people to comment on the show, and the other for the handful of people who have seen the Swedish original where they can go on and on about how it was so superior to the C4 offering, and bask in their mutual admiration of their membership of the discerning viewing elite?

Anyhow, I'm surprised that some folks think it's a bit slow - it seems rushed to me.
We had hubby down at the Synth shop in the first 5 minutes, youngest child bonding with the Synth more than her bio. mother, elder daughter being a royal pita and trying to shoot it, rogue Synths on the run, William Hurt and his malfunctioning Synth, wife with some sort of hidden secret, and Synth abducting small child - all in 45 mins. or so of actual programme time.

Question - is Merlin meant to be a Synth? If he is, he's not making much effort to appear to be one, unlike Gemma Chan, who is quite plausible.
Two threads would be a good idea as its getting very tedious hearing about it being a remake of a Swedish programme and how good the 'original' was. PLEASE, give it a rest people!

I agree that the first episode was not slow, at least to my way of thinking. It packed in a lot of stories as you rightly say and it will be interesting to see how they all pan out over the course of 8 episodes.

As to Colin Morgan (Merlin) being a Synth........I don't think so, though I might be proven wrong in the coming weeks.

Really enjoying this programme
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Old 16-06-2015, 09:41
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Did anyone else think that the rogue cyborgs were being portrayed as being a bit too human? Especially the one in the brothel where she was talking to Colin Morgan in a way that was exactly like a human complete with the speech patterns and illogical behaviour. The human personality is an extremely complex thing and there's no way that any programme or AI could replicate it in that way.
Yes that was clumsily done.

It also had the effect of ruining the creepy,sinister, ambiguous vibe built up around Anita - we know she's a "rogue cyborg" so we know that her "eerie, soulless robot" act is just, well, an act.
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Old 16-06-2015, 10:18
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Did anyone else think that the rogue cyborgs were being portrayed as being a bit too human? ...
That thought hadn't even occurred to me as there wasn't anything that broke the storyline - now that you mention that I'm not sure I have a problem with it because we have been given the idea that they all have different levels of abilities, even if those probably don't include x-ray vision...


As for 'all an act', maybe the real question is not the fact of it but the degree?
Edit: as evidenced by the 'adult software card for filthy filthy people' as sneaked into a pocket, the programming can presumably also be adjusted to change priorities like communication over domestic knowledge, a repair-bot knowing plumbing not cookery (etc) though I'd rather we didn't get shown too much of the complexities of fully emulating human face to face communication.
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Old 16-06-2015, 10:57
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Overall, an interesting episode. Very creepy at points and Gemma Chan plays Anita brilliantly. The husband shoving the Adults Only 18+ info about Synths in his back pocket made me cringe but everything else was great. Roll on next week.
Why? he was hiding it from his son. I thought it quite a responsible thing to do
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Old 16-06-2015, 10:59
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nope Merlin is human in this, King Arthur is obviously a Synth however The question is why is he aware of the synths who have become more "alive" than a synth ought to be, I did wonder if he was their creator, there are themes of the synths being out of control, such as the talk of rapid shrinking jobs market, and generation of students loosing interest in even trying to get a job.

the Willam Hurt stuff doesnt seem interesting, other than to say how Synths are being use to care for the elderly, and how people bond with them, im not sure where its going.
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Old 16-06-2015, 11:12
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Why? he was hiding it from his son. I thought it quite a responsible thing to do
Because he obviously fancied her from the outset and the sales guy realised this aswell which is why he caught up with him and gave him the 'extra' material. And the fact that he wants to s**g a robot would be a pretty good reason. I didn't pick up it was him trying to hide it from his son- I thought it was because he wants to have a go. That's why I thought it was a bit cringeworthy.
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Old 16-06-2015, 11:15
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Can not say i am overly surprised there maybe teenage boys having lustful feelings for synths, or some even wanting to have sex with one. Given there is a culture of synths working in the sex trade, can we really be shocked by his actions?

Ive been a teenage boy, and im really not.
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Old 16-06-2015, 11:28
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Can not say i am overly surprised there maybe teenage boys having lustful feelings for synths, or some even wanting to have sex with one. Given there is a culture of synths working in the sex trade, can we really be shocked by his actions?

Ive been a teenage boy, and im really not.
I wonder why the synths are sexualised anyway? In terms of having sex organs, I mean. If they were merely work drones surely they would not be, except for maybe a few specialised ones for the sex industry. Just as I presume they don't have digestive systems, or urinary systems. Why would they?

Are the males equipped for action? If so, no wonder the bloke from the shop looked a bit askance at his wife and her masseur.
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Old 16-06-2015, 11:31
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Two threads would be a good idea as its getting very tedious hearing about it being a remake of a Swedish programme and how good the 'original' was. PLEASE, give it a rest people!
I agree this is very, very annoying.

I now realise how annoying it is when a book is adapted for TV and I go on about how much better the book is. My apologies to all who read the Poldark thread. I won't do it again.
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Old 16-06-2015, 11:39
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Maybe there should be 2 threads for this show - one for people to comment on the show, and the other for the handful of people who have seen the Swedish original where they can go on and on about how it was so superior to the C4 offering, and bask in their mutual admiration of their membership of the discerning viewing elite?
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It's a remake and inevitably some will have seen the original ..it's not hard to get hold of.
If it was a remake of say a 70's Brit show numerous people would comment on whether it was as effective as the original and would that prompt people to get so agitated .. possibly not. Yes maybe we should have two threads.......one for people who think it unthinkable that people should have seen the original a remake is based on.............
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Old 16-06-2015, 11:45
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I wonder why the synths are sexualised anyway? In terms of having sex organs, I mean. If they were merely work drones surely they would not be, except for maybe a few specialised ones for the sex industry. Just as I presume they don't have digestive systems, or urinary systems. Why would they?
I dont think a fully working digestive or urinary system would be considered a sales feature.

Given that we know synths can be used for sex its not hard to believe that synths with even a basic set of sexual organs, who can be programmed to fake an orgasm, would be considered a selling point large enough to include them on all models.

i am not sure this dramas wants to explore a society where everybody has a robot lover, and no one can actually have a relationship anymore, because both parties are too used to having a robot with no needs beyond pleasing you. A generation of totally selfish lovers is on the horizon in that world I suspect.
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Old 16-06-2015, 11:47
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Hopefully we'll get some background to the Synth building/creation process as currently some of the reasoning behind their construction just doesn't make sense. I know we got a throw-away line about "Anita" only costing about as much as a car - but thats a 'hand wave' really - what sort of car? a new Focus? a Bentley? a third hand astra?

Where are the bargain basement models? Surely something like "sex organs" would be an optional extra?

I assume they are meant to be bio-mechanical rather that pure machine?
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