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Many people have mentioned a similarity in feel and sound to Utopia but I wonder if anyone has also been reminded of the 2013 series The Returned (Les Revenants)?
The music for that production was by Scottish post-rock band Mogwai, but the feel here on Humans is not too dissimilar. As an aside, I understand series 2 of The Returned is scheduled for broadcast this autumn. |
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Why do any of you find mention of the Swedish roots so upsetting??????? Their problem. Well it was until they starting trying to dictate what can and cannot be said about the programme. |
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Aww that's a shame. I came here to chat about 'Humans'. Seems I've wandered into a classroom with a bunch of squabbling kids.
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Many people have mentioned a similarity in feel and sound to Utopia but I wonder if anyone has also been reminded of the 2013 series The Returned (Les Revenants)?
The music for that production was by Scottish post-rock band Mogwai, but the feel here on Humans is not too dissimilar. As an aside, I understand series 2 of The Returned is scheduled for broadcast this autumn. This seems to have been a long time coming. Series 1 was a compulsive watch, in a slightly surreal kind of way. |
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Do the hubots have a USB port for software upgrades or is it wi-fi ?
And what about charging ? |
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I thoroughly enjoyed this programme, in fact I could have watched another hour
Liked the nods to Isaac Asimov.I am looking forward to Sunday now! |
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Do the hubots have a USB port for software upgrades or is it wi-fi ?
And what about charging ? I suspect they have wifi and thats how the sentient ones keep tabs with each other ![]() Maybe software user upgrades have to be confirmed by the primary user with some sort of password and credit card deal for extras etc.
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... and credit card deal
for extras etc. ![]() and again I apologise for the state of my mind...If anyone remembers the Not The Nine O'Clock News "American Express?" "That'll do nicely sir. And would you like to..."? ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF-U9nL9Ios Sorry
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and again I apologise for the state of my mind...If anyone remembers the Not The Nine O'Clock News "American Express?" "That'll do nicely sir. And would you like to..."? ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF-U9nL9Ios Sorry ![]() Meh its a bit more sophisticated these days, apart from the trains ![]() Here I was thinking you could upgrade via a steam account for extras, like deep cleaning once a week
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I suspect they have wifi and thats how the sentient ones keep tabs with each other
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Aww that's a shame. I came here to chat about 'Humans'. Seems I've wandered into a classroom with a bunch of squabbling kids.
I'm struggling a bit with the thread anyway as there are lots of references to shows I haven't seen. I guess it was to be expected in a sub-forum. I wish they'd let us have a thread in TV so that people who just want to talk about the show without being expected to know other sci-fi programmes could just chat about what they seen on the screen. I'll have to resort to talking about it to people it in the real world.
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... talk about the show without being expected to know other sci-fi programmes ...
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I'll have to resort to talking about it to people it in the real world.
Steady on!!!
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I can't believe it's still going on. There is a anther thread to discuss the Swedish TV show.
I'm struggling a bit with the thread anyway as there are lots of references to shows I haven't seen. I guess it was to be expected in a sub-forum. I wish they'd let us have a thread in TV so that people who just want to talk about the show without being expected to know other sci-fi programmes could just chat about what they seen on the screen. I'll have to resort to talking about it to people it in the real world. ![]() eh Wibs |
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And what about charging ?
Not long till Sunday now! |
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Fact is that although a lot of the chattering classes will watch subtitled dramas, many will not especially in the US. I admit to only watching a few subtitled ones myself ![]() I was born in an inner city slum and I watch subtitled foreign shows and movies all the time. I actively seek out foreign shows, especially sci fi because I like to watch stuff made all over the world. |
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Fact is that although a lot of the chattering classes will watch subtitled dramas, many will not especially in the US. I admit to only watching a few subtitled ones myself
![]() I'm going to have to rewatch this episode before the next one as I kept turning the sound off when it looked like it might get too creepy (just before bed ) . I asked this earlier, but I'm too lazy to trawl the thread to see if there is an answer - someone mentioned reading backstories. Are they online anywhere? |
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It also had the effect of ruining the creepy,sinister, ambiguous vibe built up around Anita - we know she's a "rogue cyborg" so we know that her "eerie, soulless robot" act is just, well, an act.
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Many people have mentioned a similarity in feel and sound to Utopia but I wonder if anyone has also been reminded of the 2013 series The Returned (Les Revenants)?
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Interesting that Laura even though intensely disliking the idea of having one in the house and calling Anita a tin can, pulls up the kids on treating the machine as a slave.
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Here's an interview with the Swedish versions creator:
Lars Lundstrom Interestingly his comment: Lundstrom says he has no problem with Humans, an eight-episode remake of the Swedish series by Channel 4 and America’s AMC. He says the scripts are “great” and appreciates the fact that the new series is “similar, but differs a lot as well”. “It’s not a carbon copy, which would be boring,” he added. Which is rather at odds with the pieces title I can understand why he would want the original to be shown first...I would myself but I guess after Humans has finished maybe Sky Arts might pick it up. Quote:
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I'm struggling a bit with the thread anyway as there are lots of references to shows I haven't seen. I guess it was to be expected in a sub-forum. I wish they'd let us have a thread in TV so that people who just want to talk about the show without being expected to know other sci-fi programmes could just chat about what they seen on the screen. I'll have to resort to talking about it to people it in the real world. ![]() |
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obviously I have not seen an owners manual, but I am pretty sure synths on the run would not turn their Wi-Fis on, if they did, they might as well turn themselves in at the factory.
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Great new series. How creepy is Anita??? eeeek.
I like the old man with the blond android he's using as a memory receptacle. Quite poignant that. The acting is superb, the whole thing is full of suspense, and it's completely reeled me in. Just one odd thing - if this is futuristic with all the advancements in AI, how come everyone is still texting on iphones, driving old bangers etc. That stuff doesn't quite gel. |
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Good spot, I just checked and this did happen.
Either a mistake by the makers or the wife has been subbed for a bot? She is acting very robotic anyway, maybe a big twist from the original and the husband has had her replaced because she was not loving any more. (I assume it's the kitchen scene that starts with the discussion about the music). The only bit of that which sounds like "Mia" is "I'm here discussing <something> with a tin can" |
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I you're struggling with the references in here be glad you never stuck your head in The 100 thread. It started to become mandatory for a reference per post. ;D
eh Wibs though if I'm going down I'm taking everyone else with me! I wasn't alone... And at least one of the references was purely by accident - plus I think the 'crowd' had a lot more of the sci-fi nerd contingent who seemed to be comparing it with *everything*.Quote:
We saw Anita 'on charge' at one point; Laura went right up close nose to nose with her .. I fully expected Anita's eyes to snap open and scare the crap out of Laura at that point!
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I really loved it, its so creepy yet at the same time could totally see how that would become so mainstream. I knew the minute the dude gave him that extra pack when he bought Anita it was something about sex. Maybe its just me but I get such weird sexual undertones from almost all the synths and their relationships, initially the old guy and the blonde until they developed the plot further along. The Jill Halfpenny one totally, I mean a personal trainer is a cliche to begin with lol. I also think its so indicative of the modern world how they aren't meant to last, just like iPhones and the like they have a relatively short lifespan before recycling so you need a new one. I find Laura's interactions with Anita interesting on the one hand chastising the daughter for treating her like a slave and testing to see if she has anything beyond programming but at the same time a real disdain for her. I'm excited to see the show develop. Quote:
Just one odd thing - if this is futuristic with all the advancements in AI, how come everyone is still texting on iphones, driving old bangers etc. That stuff doesn't quite gel.
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Great new series. How creepy is Anita??? eeeek.
I like the old man with the blond android he's using as a memory receptacle. Quite poignant that. The acting is superb, the whole thing is full of suspense, and it's completely reeled me in. Just one odd thing - if this is futuristic with all the advancements in AI, how come everyone is still texting on iphones, driving old bangers etc. That stuff doesn't quite gel. Quote:
I really loved it, its so creepy yet at the same time could totally see how that would become so mainstream. I knew the minute the dude gave him that extra pack when he bought Anita it was something about sex.
Maybe its just me but I get such weird sexual undertones from almost all the synths and their relationships, initially the old guy and the blonde until they developed the plot further along. The Jill Halfpenny one totally, I mean a personal trainer is a cliche to begin with lol. I also think its so indicative of the modern world how they aren't meant to last, just like iPhones and the like they have a relatively short lifespan before recycling so you need a new one. I find Laura's interactions with Anita interesting on the one hand chastising the daughter for treating her like a slave and testing to see if she has anything beyond programming but at the same time a real disdain for her. I'm excited to see the show develop. The train station scene really stood out for me, those rickty old trains still in use. It's not set in the future. It's supposed to be in a parallel universe or alternate reality where the only difference is to this Earth is they've made huge advancements in AI technology. Everything else is the same. I noticed a human and his AI walking past an old 05 regy car...!
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It's not set in the future. It's supposed to be in a parallel universe or alternate reality where the only difference is to this Earth is they've made huge advancements in AI technology. Everything else is the same. I noticed a human and his AI walking past an old 05 regy car...!
![]() I also think the Synths have come a long way very quickly - much like mobile phone technology did or how Facebook and then Twitter became ubiquitous in just a couple of years. |
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Liked the nods to Isaac Asimov.
and again I apologise for the state of my mind...