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Old 27-06-2015, 07:45
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I'm struggling to watch Ep 2 (of C4). I'm watching a few bits here and there on 4od but it's rather lost me. I haven't picked up the characters names, which posters on here obviously have done (who is Leo?) so maybe it's just not for me.
Hi striing,

Here's a tip. Like you, I sometimes get confused by who's who when getting into something new. What I do is go on imdb.com and look up the programme on there and check out the cast list. It certainly helps me.
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Old 27-06-2015, 08:45
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I was a bit suspicious when he was making his escape from the building and just rolled off the balcony, only to be perfectly caught by Max. Were they communicating???
I don't think so - when Max ran (after intervening in the kicking Leo was getting) he stopped to look back and would have seen which way everyone went, and going slightly further back before they go in you see the balcony looks over the front door. So I'd say it was partly luck and partly Max waiting outside and hearing the noise above - a slavishly obedient synth would be long gone and I think if Max had been human we probably would have this as no worse than 'a bit convenient'?

... After that I was too ashamed to come back on here, but I'm sorry for any confusion
If people didn't come back after making mistakes these threads would be empty! That said, I have never made any. And the tenner I slipped to the mods guaranteed that there's no evidence either
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Old 27-06-2015, 09:39
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Here's a tip. Like you, I sometimes get confused by who's who when getting into something new. What I do is go on imdb.com and look up the programme on there and check out the cast list. It certainly helps me.
Sound advice! This is one show where a simple "he's the robot" doesn't work and until you get them doing something that's not part of a group you have to rely on guesswork. I had this with parts of my family who only ever turned up as a clan so it took a really long time before I knew which name went with which person

With IMDB I'll tend to go to the episodes listing rather than 'full cast and crew' to avoid seeing how many episodes anyone was in - though I did once get caught out by the episode list ordering and saw a synopsis of a series finale which was really annoying even if I had already more or less figures out whodunnit.
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Old 27-06-2015, 10:23
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Hi striing,

Here's a tip. Like you, I sometimes get confused by who's who when getting into something new. What I do is go on imdb.com and look up the programme on there and check out the cast list. It certainly helps me.
Ah yes, thanks. I do sometimes do this when I like an actor and want to see who they are but I hadn't thought to do it to work out which robot is which!
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Old 27-06-2015, 13:33
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Can anyone answer
- why didn't Vera sense that Odi was there? Is the fact that he's an old model enough of a reason why they didn't 'share'? Or is Vera part human?

- what was the blue tablet that Niska cut out of her neck? (Bear in mind I know nothing about any sci-fi so if this is a conceit I won't recognise it.)
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Old 27-06-2015, 13:38
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- what was the blue tablet that Niska cut out of her neck? (Bear in mind I know nothing about any sci-fi so if this is a conceit I won't recognise it.)
I assumed it was some type of tracking device.
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Old 27-06-2015, 14:04
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I was absolutely convinced she swapped places, and it was only after people on here questioned it that I started to doubt. I watched again and of course no it never happened. I think on first viewing I was seeing a synth in the bag the guy rolled through the warehouse at the very start but when I watched more closely there was none. After that I was too ashamed to come back on here, but I'm sorry for any confusion
Don't be ashamed. We all misunderstand something on occasion, or think we've seen something which hasn't happened. I must admit you had me a bit confused at first. I thought maybe you'd seen it on the Swedish version and it hadn't happened on this one. My husband is always quoting his boss "it's a mistake any bumbling incompetent could have made"
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Old 27-06-2015, 14:09
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I'm not going to start wondering whether it's ok to get in my car and drive somewhere or whether my car might feel abused by constantly being at my beck and call!
I think Laura's (the mother's) point of view is not so much that it's unkind to the car, but that it's bad for you. It makes you more dependant, lazier and less fit. It might be better to cycle, or even walk, sometimes. Nowadays we tend to arrange cities and housing so you need a car to get anywhere, and that compounds the problem.

I do not 100% disagree with that, HOWEVER that is not how the world works, even if the synths were developed by a few companys in competiton (like we get with smart phones) other firms use that technolgy themselves. Our world would now allow for them to develop in a vacum, without parts of them being applied to other things, such as cars.
There's a hypothesis that human-like intelligence has to be embodied, and in a human-like body at that. The mind isn't as abstract as we sometimes think. Not only does the brain have connections to the body, but those connections are important, to the point where the boundaries are blurred. So it might not be possible to plug a synth brain into a car, couple up a few I/O ports and have it drive away.

All this goes double if it turns out that synths used to be humans, or were copied from humans, or similar.

As for Anita I don't remember any sequence showing her swapping places. We only see her look up at the moon via a skylight. I think she has had a memory wipe but her underlying programming means she's more sentient.
And we don't know when that scene was. I think it was when she was first made, showing she was always different to the others. However, it might have been after she was recaptured and wiped.
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Old 27-06-2015, 14:12
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Can anyone answer
- why didn't Vera sense that Odi was there? Is the fact that he's an old model enough of a reason why they didn't 'share'? Or is Vera part human?

- what was the blue tablet that Niska cut out of her neck? (Bear in mind I know nothing about any sci-fi so if this is a conceit I won't recognise it.)
I'm assuming Odi's age and the fact he's and the end of his lifespan means he doesnt share and he went into hibernation pretty quick too so she may not have picked up his signal.
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Old 27-06-2015, 14:38
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I think you'll find the Colin Morgan character is also a synth, albeit a later generation version, in which case they would appear to act 'normally' when together (nothing to hide, you see).
How come he was able to open the brothel door when that has to be done by a human?
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Old 27-06-2015, 14:39
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I'm onto S2 now of Real Humans. Watching the original has me excited to see how they tell this story in Humans
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Old 27-06-2015, 14:55
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I wonder if there are police or military synths? I'm surprised that it's not illegal to have the droids look like humans.
That police woman must be a synth - or why have the shot of her looking exactly like one when we first saw her? If she isn't a synth then the whole premise of the programme is void as it means all the things that are supposed to identify synths are false. Have we seen her do anything that is definitely human (like the Colin Morgan character opening the door)?
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Old 27-06-2015, 17:19
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Humans has to be the most unsettling show I've ever watched. It's a great show but very, very creepy. Anita terrifies me with the way the actor delivers the lines and that blank distant stare.
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Old 27-06-2015, 17:35
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Humans has to be the most unsettling show I've ever watched. It's a great show but very, very creepy. Anita terrifies me with the way the actor delivers the lines and that blank distant stare.
I think a world where synths exist would be a very creepy one. I wouldn't want one in my house.
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Old 27-06-2015, 17:37
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I think a world where synths exist would be a very creepy one. I wouldn't want one in my house.
I'm not sure I would either. I'd probably be pretty nervous around them.
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Old 27-06-2015, 18:23
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I think a world where synths exist would be a very creepy one. I wouldn't want one in my house.
I would totally have one if they were just robots. Something that could do the cooking and cleaning would be a dream.
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Old 27-06-2015, 18:25
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I would totally have one if they were just robots. Something that could do the cooking and cleaning would be a dream.
Even if you weren't able to tell if it had emotions or not?
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Old 27-06-2015, 18:28
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Even if you weren't able to tell if it had emotions or not?
If it was a piece of equipment like the washing machine yes. I hate cooking and cleaning.
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Old 27-06-2015, 18:53
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If it was a piece of equipment like the washing machine yes. I hate cooking and cleaning.
Fair enough. I'd just find them hard to trust.
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Old 27-06-2015, 18:57
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Fair enough. I'd just find them hard to trust.
I'd trade that in for never having to take the rubbish out again.
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Old 27-06-2015, 19:36
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Is it bad that I recognised her as Postie from Bear Behaving Badly?
That's where I know her from, thanks for that!
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Old 27-06-2015, 19:38
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Is it bad that I recognised her as Postie from Bear Behaving Badly?
I didn't even recognise her and I used to love Bear Behaving Badly!
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Old 27-06-2015, 22:07
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If it was a piece of equipment like the washing machine yes. I hate cooking and cleaning.
Me too!
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Old 27-06-2015, 22:20
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this is the downside to making something appear human, some people will start to view them as such, whilst a washing machine was just a machine we didnt really care, if the machine has a face, and a humanoid body we project feelings on to it.
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Old 27-06-2015, 22:46
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this is the downside to making something appear human, some people will start to view them as such, whilst a washing machine was just a machine we didnt really care, if the machine has a face, and a humanoid body we project feelings on to it.
I can safely say I wouldn't care what it looked like as long as the clothes came out the same. But I don't watch sci-fi so I'm not imagining machines as anything other than machines.
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