Yes, mentioned but only in so much as people being surprised she turned out to be synth.

Mattie sees synths as nothing more than machines and demonstrated her anger at them and lack of caring when shooting Odi and trying to shoot Anita. Yet when it came to the party scene she suddenly went all protective and, normal.

The reason the boy gave was that there was someone else. Which we, the viewer, know to be Anita.


And, a bit less... aggression in your posts in future.

she is a fairly well known actress and has been around for quite a long time, she was a teenager in a kids tv show called Byker Grove, she then starred as Phil Mitchells wife in Eastenders, she was a celeb on Strictly Come Dancing, I believe she then went onto the West End stage for a while too, after Strictly

Im sure she has done loads more tv work too but I cant think of what else she has been in - sorry

I didn't understand this either - but maybe Odi isn't only 6 years old. Maybe it's just that the paperwork George has says he's owned him for 6 years but really he was around much longer?


Eh what are you talking about? She was robotty from the minute she looked up in the car and loads of the thread has been spent discussing whether she is a synth or just a crap actress. We didn't necessarily know if she was actually going to be revealed to be a synth and no one got the bag down the gullet bit. They got us good and proper with that one.

Eh? Most people got the bag down the gullet bit. It was only a few who didn't.

I'm still not sure if they made her 'robotty' to suggest she was a synth without giving the game away or if it was just bad acting. The hair style didn't help.

I did see mention of it by yourself and one or two others after last weeks episode. But that's the first I saw. Can't be arsed trawling the thread so I will concede this point.

Oh okay I didn't read anyone saying that she's going to be proved to be a synth by having a bag down her throat but it's entirely possible I haven't read all the posts. I thought it was a nice touch as the obvious things would have been to show her on a charging point or taking out brown contacts to reveal synth eyes but I guess is wasn't such a nice touch if people had worked it out in advance!

Oh I meant after she did it in the show. Most people might not have got that bit before hand.

Although anyone who saw A.I. would know that most robots can't eat unless they are designed to eat.

Personally I think a condom would be a bit risky. If it burst as she pulled it out, she could be harmed just as if she had drank the wine without the condom.

I meant before. We were talking about what people did or did not work out before the reveal (ie many had thought she might well be a synth).

I had wondered why blonde synth was ordering a drink and what she was gonig to do with it because I realised she couldn't drink but I hadn't even noticed whether police synth was eating and drinking or not.

Has anyone wondered why they've made the androids so human and able to pose as humans using contact lenses and not like C3-PO or the ones in I, Robot where it would be obvious what they were?

I have to wonder how many of them had seen the Swedish version before hand.

I saw it after the talk of her being a synth but could see why people might believe she was one even without seeing the original show.

We don't know anything much about the life expectancy of a synth nor how they're made.
There could be a selection of different brands/models all with differing problems, product recalls, etc like cars.
Odi could have come with a partworks Magazine for hobbiest Synth builders, build your own synth in 100 editions, full of cheap wiring and rarely completed
Anita/Mia could have been akin to manufacturers in house testbed, rarely used, no expense spared, constantly been fettled and upgraded, expensive gold connectors in her wiring, etc, etc.
Anita can't be used an example for the existence or non-existence of a S/hand market, as she's not standard in anyway.

agreed that Antia should not be used an example, but you have a point, had not thought about people out dating and upgrading their own synths, I guess I figured it something a little too complex for the majority.

lol at a Build your own synth in 100 issues.

Errm because the drama wouldn't work if they looked like assembly line robots.
That's the whole point, they've got to blur the lines.
See Hiroshi Ishiguro Laboratories
I think there's footage of James May in the lab with his robot somewhere, it's a bit ooky IMO.

I suspect that if a manufacturer could make robots to this level of 'realness' there would be legislation to stop them, to prevent some people getting overly attached to them.

Well we've got code hackers and online code exchanges, could be whole synth scenes out there.
Various synth competitions, robot wars, synth olympics, etc whole new outlets for hobbiests.

On that tip, there was that cack movie about robots boxing, blokey who played Wolverine.

I get the coding thing, its more the physical mechanical hacking I would be surprised by

I'd say it's a safe bet that synth copper was manufactured or modified to accommodate the condom, that's a lot of redundant space inside a synth otherwise.

At £20K new and synths been so common, no reason why there wouldn't be a modifying scene.
Synths all dressed up like a F1 driver with the names of the upgraded parts manufacturers on them

Although i'm still trying to warm with the series, the latest installment was not a bad episode, it certainly opened up the story more than in previous ones. I more intrigued with Leo and the back story there than with Anita and that family - I think they all annoy me now, even the little 'un.


I get that she might be stronger than the average man but to take on all of them in that room? Yeah that one was a bit hard to believe.

They didn't know she was a synth, just some random woman going garrity, they didn't take her on, they ran around in a panic mostly.
It's the sort of thing that happens, if one person had picked up a weapon and had a good go at her others probably would have followed, human nature.

So I've had a read through and this thread has helped me piece together a few blanks I've had. But...have we touched on where the synths are coming from?

How would anyone see the Swedish one? It hasn't been on and there's no DVD. Anyway apparently the two shows aren't even the same so even if someone has seen the Swedish one it wouldn't tell them anything about this one.

She just looked like a synth right from the off - people were commenting on it even during the episode - so it was a fair line of thought that she might be one, though as I said we reserved judgement for the alternative possibility that she was just a crap actress.

Also, have you seen all the other guesses at things we've come up with? I've still got my clone idea based on nothing more than the fact that I think a synth at the very start looks like Jill Halfpenny! Just because one of the theories turned out to be true doesn't mean they all will. Having a stab a what's going on is part of the fun of watching stuff like this no?

A lot of people saw it when it was first shown and I've seen it recently (don't ask how).

There are DVDs and even a two season Blu-ray out, but very expensive.

Yes maybe.


I think they would if the going p-shaped was a random woman kicking off and attacking everybody. However I see no reason for them to be illegal in and of themselves (although I'd assume that some may be getting their synths via dodgy routes, which might be illegal).


Yes when she went to the back room and told them they were free I was wondering what she was thinking. Could be that she is deluded about how much a normal synth can think or feel, or it could be that she actually has very little experience of normal synths to know their capabilities. After all she may well have been kept hidden with only the other advanced synths and Leo for nearly all of her life.


I don't know that it's a complete u-turn. She was attacking the synths in the first episode, but I think having Anita around has changed her attitude. Also she was shooting the synths basically because she was angry with them, she felt that they were making her talents meaningless. So I don't think it's a big step between being angry that the synths are smarter than you and being angry that boys in your peer group would rather have sex with a synth than talk to real girls at the party.

I'm curious about David Elster. Have we actually seen him in an earlier episode (and I missed it) or is he a character that's only, so far, been referred to?

As far as I know he's only been referred to. I think he's supposed to be dead (not that we couldn't see him in flashbacks, and with a show like this it could turn out that everyone thinks he's dead but really he's in hiding or something).