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Old 15-06-2015, 03:12
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↗↗. Only very few of us lucky ones will have seen the original.
It's easily argued that buying the rights to show the original would have been far more astute.........though I suppose now we get to play spot the inane casting decisions and gee how did they so easily forget to tell the story.............
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Old 15-06-2015, 04:21
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I haven't seen the original so I am looking at this as a fresh new programme. I enjoyed this first episode and look forward to seeing it next week.
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Old 15-06-2015, 07:52
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When Laura and Anita were talking in the kitchen, Laura called the robot Mia. This is the name the others call her, but Laura would not know that.
I didn't notice that. I'm going to try and rewatch this later with my wife as she missed it so I'll look out for that. I suspect there will be a few things I'll spot on second viewing.
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Old 15-06-2015, 08:26
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I was looking forward to it, but I didn't like it. It was annoying right from the beginning because the idiotic husband bought Anita without consulting the wife first.
That's one of the parts I felt was far too rushed compared to the original. You basically had a couple of minutes of this bloke in his house and his wife working away and then he goes and impulse buys a hubot. It was done much better in the original and had more background story to it.

I guess CH4 had to cut some corners though, as theirs is only 8 episodes of about 45mins, whereas the Swedish one is 10 episodes lasting about an hour each.
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:00
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Really enjoyed it, Jack Whitehall is a lucky lad.
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:18
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That's one of the parts I felt was far too rushed compared to the original. You basically had a couple of minutes of this bloke in his house and his wife working away and then he goes and impulse buys a hubot. It was done much better in the original and had more background story to it.
Come on, husbands going out and spending a fortune on a fancy bit of kit without consulting their wives has been going on since Fred bought some of that new-fangled fire for the cave without checking with Wilma.

BTW - I do hope we're not in for 8 weeks of "It was so much better in the original".
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:20
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Where is Jessica Hyde? lol
Yes I got the 'Utopia' vibe too.

I think it's because of the music. Anyone know if the same people who worked on the incidental music in Utopia worked on this too?
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:22
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Yes it's very similar to Ex Machina. Hope their robot doesn't end up doing what that one did.
'Escape'....they've done that already, it seems.
This episode was a little slow but it's a pilot so that's to be expected. I enjoyed it though, the ending was particularly interesting as I didn't expect anything like that to happen with Anita or at least a few episodes. Could she be taking the daughter to protect her because she perceives the older daughter to be a threat? That's my first thought.
Not sure you can call this a pilot episode, the whole series was commissioned.
I really enjoyed that the hour passed by very quickly as you followed all the different story lines.

I would seriously want to get rid of the older daughter, very moody individual. The younger sister was really cute, and with Anita carrying her off at the end, it definitely raises questions.

I found it quite easy to get into all the different story lines, there was enough going on there to get involved in.

Will definitely be tuning in next week.
Was she doing it, to protect her from her Mum...
I'm just sorry it will finish on 2/08 so many people will be on holiday
- really.
I want Anita to come and live with me. She has such a lovely voice, she laughs at jokes that aren't funny and she does the housework.

Hope she kills the obnoxious teenage daughter.
Me too....
She can wash my colours anytime.
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:24
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BTW - I do hope we're not in for 8 weeks of "It was so much better in the original".
Oh please there is nothing more annoying than every other post being how much better the original was

So we get Swedish good, Brit bad, 'nough said.

Thank you Shrike for the timely reminder.
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:26
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Come on, husbands going out and spending a fortune on a fancy bit of kit without consulting their wives has been going on since Fred bought some of that new-fangled fire for the cave without checking with Wilma.

BTW - I do hope we're not in for 8 weeks of "It was so much better in the original".
BIB: Sadly, we almost certainly will be because some people simply can't help explaining how much more sophisticated than the rest of us sad plebs are.

I quite enjoyed this and I think as a bit of chewing gum for the eyes it was perfect Sunday night viewing. The casting is good and so far while there have been a couple of inconsistencies there has been nothing that suspension of disbelief can't handle.

I'm looking forward to the rest of the series.

PS where did Kat Parkinson get those baps!!! I don't recall those from the IT crowd!
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:27
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Not bad, but some structural problems.

The main strength of the plot was, or should have been, Anita's creepy half-human, half machine vibe, and the tension of trying to work out whether she was sinister or not.

However, that was all dissipated very early on by the cosy hike in the woods, the cosy romantic storyline and the fact that the intelligent cyborgs are all quite obviously the good guys.

We have seen several of the intelligent cyborgs, of whom Anita is one, acting to all intents and purposes exactly like humans. This again dissipates the creepy vibe that the actress playing her very skilfully built up in the household.
Probably. It could have perhaps remained to be ambiguous for at least a couple of episodes. Already we are made to feel that the 'sexbot' is being abused and that they are slaves. Which is all maybe a bit too soon.

It also reminds me of the French zombie drama which was remade by Channel 4 for a British audience a couple of years ago, with the music by Mogwai.
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:28
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When Laura and Anita were talking in the kitchen, Laura called the robot Mia. This is the name the others call her, but Laura would not know that.
Didn't notice that, but I did notice that at one point when she was chatting to her husband on the bed, Laura suddenly did something very Androidy. He said something that surprised her and she slowly tilted her head and then sort of swivelled it round to look at him. Probably nothing…..
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:30
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The parts with William Hurt and the young robot remind me very much of the low budget sci-fi 'film Robot and Frank' starring Frank Langella as an aging jewel thief who makes friends with his robot manservant which his son has bought him to look after him.
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:32
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We thought that too after seeing a couple of the actors from Utopia in this programme.
Pretty good show, intriguing, will stick with it.
I noticed Neil Maskell (Arby), who was the other actor you spotted?
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:32
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Did seem to have a lot of elements borrowed from A.I. and the Will Smith I, Robot films (apart from the basic synthetic human idea), but I liked it quite a bit, will be tuning in next week.
It's rare for a show about human-like robots to say anything new.

very true. There are a few other issues too. Are all the synths made by Apple? If they were more "PC" like, people would be upgrading them and programming them.

Surely loads of people will be hacking them?
Well, the old bloke was hacking his, and the daughter was talking about over-clocking Anita/Mia, so clearly some hacking is going on.

And why do you need a operator's license to have one?
Because they are dangerous, as seen in the supermarket. The owner has to make sure they don't break stuff or hurt anyone. Presumably if there was a car crash while Anita/Mia was driving, the operator would be liable. That said, it looks like the licences don't mean much; the husband didn't even read the literature he was given before letting her drive.

That's one of the parts I felt was far too rushed compared to the original. You basically had a couple of minutes of this bloke in his house and his wife working away and then he goes and impulse buys a hubot. It was done much better in the original and had more background story to it.
I thought they conveyed the situation quite deftly. He was clearly frazzled and needed help.
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Old 15-06-2015, 09:58
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I noticed Neil Maskell (Arby), who was the other actor you spotted?

The little girl Sophie (Pixie Davies) was in an episode of Utopia too.
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Old 15-06-2015, 10:12
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BTW - I do hope we're not in for 8 weeks of "It was so much better in the original".
Presumably C4 had a choice......to either show the original or remake / re-imagine it. They chose the latter but so far don't appear to have made 'the story' make sense and I can't see why the character and story changes when they appear to have been made IMHO for the worse. I would urge anyone to watch the original and then answer why it wouldn't have been preferable to just show it.
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Old 15-06-2015, 10:14
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Probably. It could have perhaps remained to be ambiguous for at least a couple of episodes. Already we are made to feel that the 'sexbot' is being abused and that they are slaves. Which is all maybe a bit too soon.

It also reminds me of the French zombie drama which was remade by Channel 4 for a British audience a couple of years ago, with the music by Mogwai.
BIB, channel 4 didn't remake the French drama 'The Returned' (though it was remade for the US but that was AMC and is on Netflix ) they showed the original French version.
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Old 15-06-2015, 10:31
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BIB: Sadly, we almost certainly will be because some people simply can't help explaining how much more sophisticated than the rest of us sad plebs are.
Not necessarily.

Maybe the original actually is better?
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Old 15-06-2015, 10:53
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Presumably C4 had a choice......to either show the original or remake / re-imagine it. They chose the latter but so far don't appear to have made 'the story' make sense and I can't see why the character and story changes when they appear to have been made IMHO for the worse. I would urge anyone to watch the original and then answer why it wouldn't have been preferable to just show it.
I expect C4 thought they'd get better ratings by setting the programme in the culture their viewers are familiar with. The premis, presumably, is "what would our society be like if we had android servants?". For many of us that will have less impact if the story is set in a culture that is mainly foreign to us.
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Old 15-06-2015, 11:41
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I'm glad they did, I was appalled.
Straight up? If you really were appalled then perhaps you should stick to CBeebies!
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Old 15-06-2015, 11:48
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Good to hear positive feedback but I have to say that I think the Swedish original is FAR better than this version.

This one feels a bit too rushed in comparison and the hubots seem more convincing and menacing in the original series too.
For goodness sake, can we NOT keep hearing about comparisons with the 'original' Swedish version .. please!! Most of us won't have seen it, most of us won't have heard of it and, most importantly, most of us came to this excellent Ch4 version fresh and unencumbered by previous influences.
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Old 15-06-2015, 11:51
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... that the intelligent cyborgs are all quite obviously the good guys.
You sure about that? This was the first episode of 8 .. nothing will turn out to be what it seems, trust me!
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Old 15-06-2015, 11:54
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I'm just sorry it will finish on 2/08 so many people will be on holiday
Series record, anyone?
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Old 15-06-2015, 12:01
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We thought that too after seeing a couple of the actors from Utopia in this programme.
Neil Maskell, who played Arby the assassin in Utopia, is only afforded the one small part in this, unfortunately (he was Pete Drummond the law enforcement agent in the supermarket, whose wife was enjoying some serious synth therapy back at home, for those that missed him). Unmistakable voice, I too was reminded of the 'where's Jessica Hyde?' quote.
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