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Old 29-12-2016, 10:50
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Very helpful stats again, thanks. I think the consolidated ratings highlight just what an utter mistake keeping several series like that Spanish prison drama only on ALL4 has been. 100k viewers online is tiny, everyone still wants to watch on their big Telly's in the sitting room.
?? I can watch ALL4 on "my big telly in the sitting room", it really depends on the type of television or television provider (sky etc) that you have. I would expect a lot of people no longer have to watch it on their laptop/computer/iPad and most of the 100k would have watched it on the main television.
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Old 29-12-2016, 17:41
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Very helpful stats again, thanks. I think the consolidated ratings highlight just what an utter mistake keeping several series like that Spanish prison drama only on ALL4 has been. 100k viewers online is tiny, everyone still wants to watch on their big Telly's in the sitting room.
You seriously believe Locked Up would have done better than Humans?
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Old 29-12-2016, 19:15
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Consolidated ratings so far.

Episode 1: 3.9m (+143k All4)
Episode 2: 3m (+114k All4)
Episode 3: 2.4m (+104k All4)
Episode 4: 2.3m (+92k All4)

For comparison, last year's:

Episode 1: 6.8m
Episode 2: 6.01m
Episode 3: 5.2m
Episode 4: 5.5m
I've just rewatched the whole lot properly (online) and I don't really understand why the numbers for this year were so much lower than last year. When you watch it altogether, series 2 follows very naturally from series 1 and, apart from a few odd niggles, the story works. Perhaps it's just that last year it was a novelty.
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Old 29-12-2016, 20:02
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I've just rewatched the whole lot properly (online) and I don't really understand why the numbers for this year were so much lower than last year. When you watch it altogether, series 2 follows very naturally from series 1 and, apart from a few odd niggles, the story works. Perhaps it's just that last year it was a novelty.
I thought it was interesting when they were living among the humans in series 1, but I'm thinking that in series 2 it's just going to be the androids out in the field trying to rescue each other and kill anyone who is trying to shut them down so I didn't fancy it.
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Old 30-12-2016, 05:15
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You seriously believe Locked Up would have done better than Humans?
Where exactly did I say that in my post ?
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Old 30-12-2016, 05:17
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?? I can watch ALL4 on "my big telly in the sitting room", it really depends on the type of television or television provider (sky etc) that you have. I would expect a lot of people no longer have to watch it on their laptop/computer/iPad and most of the 100k would have watched it on the main television.
The fact that 100k viewers out of three million watched it on ALL4 strongly suggests your assumption is incorrect. And many forumers here have agreed with me.
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Old 30-12-2016, 06:05
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I've just rewatched the whole lot properly (online) and I don't really understand why the numbers for this year were so much lower than last year. When you watch it altogether, series 2 follows very naturally from series 1 and, apart from a few odd niggles, the story works. Perhaps it's just that last year it was a novelty.
BIB - I'd imagine that only partially.

I personally believe the reason why S2 is down on S1, is down to timing. It was up against the hugely popular (bizarrely) I'm a Celebrity, plus shown later in the year - S1 was shown in June 2015.

Series 2 was indeed excellent, and I have my fingers crossed for a series 3
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Old 30-12-2016, 08:14
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I thought it was interesting when they were living among the humans in series 1, but I'm thinking that in series 2 it's just going to be the androids out in the field trying to rescue each other and kill anyone who is trying to shut them down so I didn't fancy it.
I agree. I enjoyed the first series and thought it was interesting. But I'm struggling to get slightly interested in this series.
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Old 30-12-2016, 12:33
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The fact that 100k viewers out of three million watched it on ALL4 strongly suggests your assumption is incorrect. And many forumers here have agreed with me.
Eh? They were talking about how many of that 100K that watched using All4 would have watched on their big telly, not how many watched it using another platform such as Freeview or Sky. As it happens I don't know which of you is nearer the truth of the matter. I do know that I used All4 on my tablet when not at home and All4 on my Youview box on my main telly when at home and have missed recording summat.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:50
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i downloaded every episode to the sky box

wasn't a great season really.
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Old 30-12-2016, 23:47
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Do Sky charge their customers for downloading FTA channels progrmammes like Humans ?

I heard they charge their poor customers for even scratching themselves near their Sky Box.
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:55
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Do Sky charge their customers for downloading FTA channels progrmammes like Humans?
I wouldn't have thought so.
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Old 01-01-2017, 14:30
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Do Sky charge their customers for downloading FTA channels progrmammes like Humans ?

I heard they charge their poor customers for even scratching themselves near their Sky Box.
There's no charge for downloading On Demand / Catch Up although, depending on the channel, some programmes get automatically deleted after a few weeks.
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Old 01-01-2017, 14:36
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I really enjoyed the show and the ending.

I can't help feeling that uploading the consciousness code was a bit destructive. Quite apart from the social and legal implications, with so much dependence on synths, unless they can be persuaded to go back to doing the job they were made for it's going to cripple the economy and cause huge chaos everywhere

The synth manufacturers are going to have to think twice before making any more synths also.
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:09
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Do Sky charge their customers for downloading FTA channels progrmammes like Humans ?

I heard they charge their poor customers for even scratching themselves near their Sky Box.
You need a SKY sub of some sort.
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Old 01-01-2017, 23:48
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The fact that 100k viewers out of three million watched it on ALL4 strongly suggests your assumption is incorrect. And many forumers here have agreed with me.
Bit of a rude reply from you. I think one reply mentioned watching it online, not "many".

I would like to see actual data because with the development of smart tv etc I think most will not watch it on a computer but will watch on their main tv.
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Old 01-01-2017, 23:50
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Do Sky charge their customers for downloading FTA channels progrmammes like Humans ?

I heard they charge their poor customers for even scratching themselves near their Sky Box.
Once you have paid your initial subscription fee "catch up" tv e.g. ALL4 and iplayer do not have an additional charge. So people with sky or virgin etc can quite easily watch catch up tv on their main tv.
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Old 02-01-2017, 00:21
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I'm reasonably sure iplayer is free and only depends on the tv licence (or will be, and works on an honesty-box anyway, licence debates available elsewhere for those who insist), and I thought All4 was also free...?


Disclaimer: I don't have a smart TV (and mine is hardly old) and I don't normally watch anything online anyway unless I missed setting the timer and when it comes to the time that no non-smart TVs are available any more I'll probably not have it connected to the interwebs anyway...
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:19
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Bit of a rude reply from you. I think one reply mentioned watching it online, not "many".

I would like to see actual data because with the development of smart tv etc I think most will not watch it on a computer but will watch on their main tv.
Crikey, you have led a sheltered life, how was that rude exactly ?

And my point is that many people like Dr.Wibble just mentioned who have smart TV's would not use the online catch-up services anyway due to all those six-minute long web ad breaks you can't fast forward or jump like on a DVR.

And ALL4's overall viewing figures for all the series they have only available online backs my point up. Migration from TV to the web is a total myth.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:40
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I'm reasonably sure iplayer is free and only depends on the tv licence (or will be, and works on an honesty-box anyway, licence debates available elsewhere for those who insist), and I thought All4 was also free...?


Disclaimer: I don't have a smart TV (and mine is hardly old) and I don't normally watch anything online anyway unless I missed setting the timer and when it comes to the time that no non-smart TVs are available any more I'll probably not have it connected to the interwebs anyway...
If you do get a Smart TV you might as well get connected as there are a lot of apps which I find useful - iPlayer, Netflix, Amazon Prime, the catch up channels for ITV, Ch4, Ch5 and I get NowTV through the Internet.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:17
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Crikey, you have led a sheltered life, how was that rude exactly ?

And my point is that many people like Dr.Wibble just mentioned who have smart TV's would not use the online catch-up services anyway due to all those six-minute long web ad breaks you can't fast forward or jump like on a DVR.

And ALL4's overall viewing figures for all the series they have only available online backs my point up. Migration from TV to the web is a total myth.
It felt dismissive.

I don't see any six minute long web ad breaks when I catch up using ALL4 or any other catch up service using my main television in the living room.

I think we are discussing different points, my point was that I didn't think people would be put off watching Humans on catch up via the internet because they have to watch it on a computer because if they want to watch it on their main television many people will be able to. (referring directly to ALL4 rather than watching a recording)

I agree that viewers don't migrate from TV to the web, that was the point I was making. They no longer need to, gone are the days of having to watch iplayer or all4 on a computer.

Therefore the fact so few used ALL4 to catch up on Humans may not be due to having to watch it on the computer but possibly due to not wanting to watch it at all.
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:14
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If you do get a Smart TV you might as well get connected ....
Point taken but opinions vary on that one and certainly for the time being it's nice to keep the things separate!
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