I like her and don't care who she voted for. Voting UKIP doesn't make you any more racist than voting Tory makes you pro hunting.

I do think she has to be careful though not to overstep the 'im normal' onto inverted snobbery cos that's a very unattractive trait

I like Harriet but if she keeps saying the F word every 2 seconds it'll put me off.

I love her! Think she seems down to earth... Not a classic I want to be famous and am already a below z lister wannabe. I feel channel 5 have branched away from that branch of housemate this series. Although Christian is a right tool! At this early stage I would say Chloe, Harriet and jack are set to be top 3. Think I may have a bit of a crush on Harriet actually... Makes a change for me to have a crush on someone nice in BB.... Helen!

Isn't the class system lovely?

While it's not her fault she was born into a (relatively) poor family and wasn't naturally intelligent enough - or "aspiring" enough in the present bs lingo - to get anything out of the public school system, self-pity is still not a good look and she needs to get over the chip on her shoulder.

I do want to like her, for reasons of her 'down-to-earthness', but it's still too early to tell.

I'm giving her a pass on the UKIP rubbish as she's a perfect example of how the Labour Party has failed to represent her, but I can't help wondering how many immigrants add to her pay packet every day in that cafe.

I'm neither condemning or ridiculing her. I specifically said in my post that "I've no interest in condemning her"

I said her voting UKIP didn't endear me to her and Joel being a Tory councillor doesn't endear me to him either

This represents my politics and my views and my opinions. I'm not speaking for the UK.

So she's a liar

She said in her VT that she'd voted UKIP because there were too many immigrants and the UK doesn't have enough space. Also it says on her biog on the BB site that she supported UKIP in this year's election.

As for her being unlike the others, down to earth, normal and not seeking fame she mentions the possibility of a TV career in her biog also. I'm not criticising her for that. Good luck to her but she clearly has ambition and isn't exactly what is being described by some on here.

i'm quite liking harriet atm - she seems like an honest, down-to-earth girl

however, we have only seen 2 highlight shows, so give it time

Do you know the poster? How do you know shes not glamorous. For goodness sake she only meant its nice to see someone not wearing heels.

You did disagree with Captain \kipper when he said:

As the majority in the thread were just showing empathy for her predicament in the DR and as nobody really knows what she is like at all yet, it seems a bit unfair to tag her with whatever stupid admission she made in her audition to get in to the house. Even if it's true it could be true of any of the others also.
It may be unfortunate but the UkIP was a legitimate party in the last democratic election and the Tories, with similar positions are in power. By the law of averages, many in that house may have voted in a way you, or I, may not like. Unless someone in there comes out with some politically offensive diatribe (a la Katie Hopkins) they deserve not to be sidelined by political bias.

I did but I don't see what that has that got to do with condemnation and ridicule


Only Harriet and the councillor have talked about their political views to the degree of mentioning them in their VT and in the biog on the BB site. Are we to ignore everything in the HM's VT and biogs or is it just comments about their political views that you think we should ignore

I responded to the OP by saying "She voted UKIP She'll have to seriously buck up her ideas to get me on board." and I stick by that.

I like Harriet.

It disappoints me a bit that she expressed support for UKIP.

To be fair - I don't think (unlike Joel) that she is particularly politically motivated - it happens to be very topical as we have just had an election.

And ..................I really do think it'd be foolhardy (as we've seen in the past) to put too much store by their entrance VT's.

I think I'll watch, wait and see.

harriet to win win win win win win win win

I didn't say you condemned or ridiculed her, I was, in general, remarking about the fact that UKIP support could often be ridiculed while there is insufficient condemnation for similar Tory policies which are greatly supported. See it as a type of aside rather than aimed to confuse.


Not at all. It's strange that anyone should strongly mention their voting preference in their VT though ,unless it's perhaps designed to shock and is used as a demarcation of difference in order to gain entrance - a bit like Jade mentioning being polyamorous as a marker of her 'difference' and much conversation abounds on whether it's true or not. In the main, judgements about support for Jade will possibly revolve around her interaction in the house, not the sexual preferences she avowed (true or not) to get in there. I guess Harriet should be judged the same, unless it's an issue she wants to push in there and provoke both HMs and viewers with. As she is not a campaigner for UKIP (is she?) she possibly wont, unlike Joel who campaigns for the conservatives and may push some type of agenda. Then again, maybe he wont.

I doubt who she voted for in the last election will drive her experience in the house, so your mind will not be altered and that's your perogative.
Perhaps she will vent right wing spiel and rant at other housemates and then we will all have mighty time in here judging her extreme ideals .That would be amazing We'd have a real villain. Until that happens, for me, she's just a young working class girl who perhaps voted naively in an election.

Noooooo !! - not politics on the BB forum

She was overwhelmed because she considers herself ordinary, in comparison to the others.

Is she sensing competition ? We will wait & see.....

I didn't bring it in

I agree

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It could be that either..

UKIP clearly have a more robust immigration and European policy than even the Tories however, I think they are taken less seriously and laughed at more than the Tories and other political parties as much because of the many faux pas made by their politicians and council members.

I wouldn't say Tory policies are greatly supported as though they did win the election their vote share was only 36% and Labour was 30% with UKIP 12%.


Haven't you seen the board today Judgement of Jade is very much centring on her talking about being polyamorous and I wouldn't expect anything less

However, Jade like Harriet has the chance to affect people's opinion by her actions in the House.


I agree it's unlikely who she voted for in the election will drive her experience in the House but on the contrary to what you say, that is highly like to alter my feelings about her and even make me warm to her if she is decent in other ways.


I must admit I do find that quite patronising. I believed her when she gave her reasons for supporting UKIP. Many feel the same way as have said on here, young and old, so why shouldn't she feel that way too.

It's Harriet's fault

Thanks for the stats and explanations above, as I am not from the UK. From what I know though, the Tory party out-performed certain polls by promising similar to what the UKIP were looking for regarding Europe, which in the long run affects immigration policy. Anyway enough of that for now.
As for BIB You only believe I am being 'patronising' because you are putting far too much weight on her seriously supporting UKIP . Hasn't she already backtracked on what she said for the audition and said she didn't vote for them at all. Somebody else said that on here also. It could also be considered patronising to judge people entirely by how they vote. We'll just have to disagree on this one.

UKIP want to leave the EU and the Tories have promised a referendum on it. Make of that as you want.


I certainly do put weight on her supporting UKIP because she said that she does so it would be patronising not to respect her views on that in my opinion. As for her not voting for UKIP, someone said that but I have no idea how they are privy to that.

I don't think it's patronising to judge people entirely by how they vote but it might be one dimensional and a bit daft however at this stage we don't know that much about Harriet and her supporting UKIP stuck out for me on a thread suggesting support for her at this early stage.

I read quite a lengthy piece on her (somewhere on DS news) that she decided not to vote in the end as all parties are much of a muchness in her opinion.

TBH - I had been married for three years when I was 22 - I really didn't have much of an opinion on politics - I left school at 15 - I felt it didn't really concern me.

Now aged 58 (and with the benefit of HE as a mature student) I am a different person. I kind of 'identify' with Harriet a bit - if there are no role models within the community or your family you do tend to just drift along.

She is still young - she seems to have a good heart - she'll do for me.

The tories won on that promise, says a lot.
I agree with BIB and it's like we only have one line on them all...it could be a long few weeks

Thanks Penny, I knew it had been mentioned somewhere. It's not unusual that someone of her age ,without the benefit of further education, would not be well informed politically
BIB - She wasn't far from the truth.

Obviously they won on more than that. They have a different economic policy and way of dealing with the debt than Labour and UKIP.

Nowadays we just find out what BB want to tell us

She is very Stacey Solomon

To be honest I wasn't that bothered that she specifically voted UKIP it was more that she said in her VT clearly that she supported them and agreed with their immigration policy etc. Someone prepared to say this deserves respect as some are giving her or criticism if that is where you stand.

We've all had to find our way in the world but in my view it's very different to feel that politics doesn't concern you and then to grow up and realise that it does to starting off in support of a party like UKIP.

Anyway we don't really know her or any of them for that matter so time will tell but thus far I'm not impressed with her.