Originally Posted by johnan:
“I noticed the "set-piece" discussions last year too.
It was said the cameras are only "on" part of the time and the HMs know when they are on, and act accordingly, and apart from that, relevant people are brought together to have a "discussion" about various topics and no-one else seems to be around.
I find that very odd, if it is meant to be a spontaneous conversation. There would normally be others walking in and out during the chat.”
If that's the case then why don't they at least have proper conversations when the cameras are on rather than these piece meal ones where their aim seems to be to just mention as many topics as they can and not bother to actually discuss them

Originally Posted by B00:
“He's done it a few times though. He did it with the meditating thing too. Classic passive/aggressive move.”
I think I have a problem understanding this passive aggressive tag. I thought it meant when you don't get angry and react but sulk whilst pretending nothing is wrong when it clearly is. Aaron doesn't act like that. He has a strop and a moan and a sulk.
I'd call him childish and inexperienced in the art of making a point successfully rather than passive aggressive.
I actually think Joel is more passive aggressive in that he does stuff like laughing at the meditating but then denies responsibility. He's actually done this before.
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“It's just really, really badly edited. It's no longer chronological, shots are inserted to empathisise points, so who knows what they are doing with conversations.
I don't think they are giving script prompts as the do in TOWIE etc but the are forcing narrative and character like channel 4 never did. On the other hand, channel 4 were often accused of having boring shows because the edited it naturally.
This series looks very clumsy, the editoral team should have a re-think.”
I think you're right and this is what I alluded to earlier, that it often feels like chunks of conversations or activities have been left out and I'm left feeling confused. I'm afraid it comes back to the old LF debate