Who do you fancy? Yeah he/she is fit *yawn*

What a bunch of one-dimensional bores!

The producer, creative director et all need the sack as this is shockingly BAD!.

I don't see ratings improving with episodes like this

It's pretty dire..

Just what I was thinking. It's boring me to tears

Where is the age range?

It's dreadful

Tbh I thought tonight was very BB3. It was almost identical to an episode of BB3. And the orange sofa also helps.

BB3 had a lower average in terms of age. I don't know why people forget that many series had YOUNGER hms.

I was thinking that. Nothing will ever be as good as BB3 but I'm enjoying seeing the house mates getting on and having fun together for a change.

I agree even in it's prime older HM's were rare.

Most have always been late teens (in fact I recall one year one HM was just old enough his 18th was a day or so before) to late 20's

Yes, they were mostly young in BB3 (apart from Sandy and Johnny being old all over the place) but they seemed a lot more mature than this lot. Even Jade Goody!

As someone said - this series is very old school, and I agree.

I'm enjoying it but it could do without the infantile secret tasks to force something that otherwise wouldn't be there.

I must be in the minority but I really enjoyed this episode. There were lots of funny little moments. My favourite one of the series so far.

I'm really enjoying it. For ages we've had people complaining the housemates are too bitchy and out there, now we have a normal bunch it's constant complaints of how boring they are. Hopefully not too much meddling from BB to make them turn against each other.

havent watched tonights ep yet.

but im loving this slightly old school series.

it could be that C5 picked these housemates, as they didnt want confrontation again.

There didnt seem to a epsiode in the last 2 series, without being told at the beginning, this epsiode contains violence etc

I always enjoy bb no matter how bad it is but this year...what the feck? I'm finding it so hard to keep watching. It's so bland and uneventful.

Does anyone find the endless "I fancy so and so" conversations entertaining?

It wasn't the entire show silly

I fancy so-and-so conversations are fine. Rows are fine. Getting on with each other is fine. What is not fine is if all this stuff doesn't come from the Housemates. This series strikes me as being much less manipulated, and that's why I'm enjoying that.

Having said that, I had no problem with the secret task involving Eileen. Producer involvement can work, provided that it's a short-term thing, it's not happening every day and it just brings it a little bit of entertainment rather than creating a whole storyline, which isn't what we want.

The point of Big Brother is that we watch and observe a group of people whose environment is controlled in a small setting, but whose conversations and relationships are completely down to them. Take away that and you don't have a programme.

But that is the C5 modus operandi. All they do is try to stir things up constantly and cause friction.

Truth or dare game tonight. Face to face noms yesterday. They just getting started.

Yes that's why I'm not very hopeful they won't meddle. A little bit of stirring here and there can be entertaining and I can accept that but I really hope they don't take it too far like they did last year.

It felt like.