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I feel a bit sorry for Cristian
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Captain Kipper
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people saying "what's he suffered in life, he's had it easy". That isn't basing an opinion on what he does in the show is it?”

Oh right, well im not interested in his past, or whether he's suffered or not.

I always judge a HM on what I see in the house, so you can rest assured on that.
mysty211
19-05-2015
Christian seems like he's introverted so it's harder for him to get to know the others.
He hasn't got a big personality like the others.
He'll slowly get to know the others gradually.
Hollie_Louise
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Oh right, well im not interested in his past, or whether he's suffered or not.

I always judge a HM on what I see in the house, so you can rest assured on that.”

To be fair if I'm voting on what I see in the house, I'm liking seeing Cristian anyway lol. Yes, I am shallow and pervy
Penny Crayon
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“To be fair if I'm voting on what I see in the house, I'm liking seeing Cristian anyway lol. Yes, I am shallow and pervy ”

As I think you'll find that a particular poster ^^ up there is too.

A big pair of boobs and a pretty face usually nail it for him no matter how vacuous the person might be

very much a case of pot kettle black going on here.

Yes Cristian is a nice looking guy, yes he has a 'sob' story but ...............he is struggling IMO - he is very young and seems to be having difficulty fitting in. He hasn't been nasty, loud mouthed or sneaky and that's why I'm liking him.
ShadowTillNow
19-05-2015
I was sure going in he was one of those dull better-get-in-a-romance types that would bring nothing to the show - a Dale type. It's unfortunate that he's having a shit time of it so far, but it has allowed us to see a bit more of a real person rather than the one dimensional clip-on rapper persona that went in on launch night.
annw
19-05-2015
I have never heard him talk about who he fancies, where has that come from.
Hollie_Louise
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“As I think you'll find that a particular poster ^^ up there is too.

A big pair of boobs and a pretty face usually nail it for him no matter how vacuous the person might be

very much a case of pot kettle black going on here.

Yes Cristian is a nice looking guy, yes he has a 'sob' story but ...............he is struggling IMO - he is very young and seems to be having difficulty fitting in. He hasn't been nasty, loud mouthed or sneaky and that's why I'm liking him.”

Yeah I like him anyway, he just seems nice, being bloody gorgeous just helps lol. I hope he comes out of himself as the series goes on.

I think some people think bringing up his health issues means we want him to win (or we like him) because of the issues where it's really just trying to combat the moronic idea that because he's good looking he must have had a perfect life.
Jubadi
19-05-2015
I see the "Aww, Poor Christian" brand has reached DS too! I hear he's suffered and needs to be "understood".
The whole package comes with newly uploaded sob story bios and instructions on why he's a special case.
If this sympathy play works at least it will stop Pie Hole winning. Every cloud...
Salv*
19-05-2015
And anyone notice that bar the first night, he hasn't got involved in all that "who I fancy for a showmance" business like Danny and Kieran. I thought he would be desperately be trying to find one when he went in.
LiamOK
19-05-2015
I don't dislike him but he isn't really anywhere on my list yet. I don't feel sorry for him, I did for about a minute and then burst out laughing at him in the DR.. Sorry. I don't really care about someone's past life. His fake accents annoy me, he is not gangsta. He went into BB to be a rapper.

He does seem nice and human though. He is cringey, which I like. He's not as confident as he wants us to believe which I think is good, but at times he does come across as arrogant even though we know it's just a front - needs some balance.

I will reserve my judgement for a few weeks in as he doesn't seem settled yet or trying very hard. I just hope he isn't going to be miserable the whole time he's there.
Jimmy Connors
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Helsbels46:
“I think people bottled it in the face to face noms...they feared his reaction having seen how he's kicked off before ”

Good point, I never thought of that. Well hopefully once they have the DR as protection during voting they can vote for him to their hearts content. ... hopefully.
Veri
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Yeah I like him anyway, he just seems nice, being bloody gorgeous just helps lol. I hope he comes out of himself as the series goes on.

I think some people think bringing up his health issues means we want him to win (or we like him) because of the issues where it's really just trying to combat the moronic idea that because he's good looking he must have had a perfect life.”

It all fits together, though. In bb14, for example, the idea that Dexter was socially awkward wasn't directly a reason for wanting him to win, but it still seemed to play an important role in why people liked him, or sided with him, and in how they felt about how the other HMs treated him; and those things they played a part in people wanting him to win.

In the thread that told us about Cristian's health problems, the OP said "I think it gives us insight into why he felt like nobody understands him in the diary room in yesterday's show." His health issues also fit in with the idea that he's insecure, or vulnerable, and that there's more to him than there seemed to be on the surface.
shelleyj89
19-05-2015
I think some find it easy to target the quieter, more introverted housemates. It's easier to nominate them, then actually take the time to get to know them and try and get them to come out of their shell. I think Jack saving him from being up will do him the world of good, and hopefully the other housemates will actually now include him a bit more.

It's easier for some more than others to automatically fit into a new group of people, and I think Cristian finds it hard to express himself and open up to others.

With regards to his health, if he wants to talk about it, he can. It's his story to tell if he wants to tell it.
radders2012
19-05-2015
As unfortunate as it is that he had an illness - having an illness doesnt change that he is a pretentious dick.

He has done nothing to endear himself to me in the house at all, I get he is young but everything I have seen seems to indicate he is full of himself (talking to Sarah whilst lying across the top of the sofa and telling her how she should behave - Really!) Thinking he should have been in celeb BB.

I just read his sites Biog too and that hasn't done anything to change that opinion (FYI he didnt have a brain tumor - he had a benign tumor on the side of his head - not nice but not life threatening, I dont actually know why its even mentioned).

I do appreciate how being deaf in one ear will limit his ability to mix as my Mum is deaf in one ear but it doesnt stop it, you just tell people.

He seems like a vacant wanabee - although means he is in the right house I guess
JanisElizabeth
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“Well, take it how you will. Of course I have sympathy for people with illness, it's just I know what's coming next. He will milk it for all it is worth. It's why he has ostracised himself from other housemates, putting on the "I have a few underlying issues" act.

I'm sorry that he had to battle a brain tumour, that can't have been easy and I respect that... I can just tell what sort of person he is. When the time is right, he will play his trump card, and the sympathy will come in droves.”

Wow how clever you are. You've seen this guy on telly for a few minutes over a period of less than a week but you can "just tell" what sort of person he is. Amazing!!!!
Helsbels46
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“Good point, I never thought of that. Well hopefully once they have the DR as protection during voting they can vote for him to their hearts content. ... hopefully.”

Fingers firmly crossed!!
JanisElizabeth
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“And so do I.

I think it might be time to nail my colours to the mast.

I think I'm rooting for Cristian.”

I think I might join you Penny
kafka_..
19-05-2015
so i see crisitian's plan is working...a poor pretty boy who's misunderstood by HM's, with all that he never forgets to show his half naked body, sometimes i think that his suitcase is half empty cos he doesn't need clothes in the house...pathetic narcissistic guy who can't link 2 words together but with huge ambitions SMH
Hollie_Louise
19-05-2015
I've heard him say more than 2 words in a sentence many times. Maybe you're going deaf?
Master Ozzy
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by kafka_..:
“so i see crisitian's plan is working...a poor pretty boy who's misunderstood by HM's, with all that he never forgets to show his half naked body, sometimes i think that his suitcase is half empty cos he doesn't need clothes in the house...pathetic narcissistic guy who can't link 2 words together but with huge ambitions SMH”

I don't agree that he's constructed a big game plan to make us all believe he's a "pretty boy who's misunderstood", but if he has...then bloody well done to him as he deserves the £150,00. As for him taking his top off all of the time...if I had a body like his then I'd have my underwear off as well as my top. Give the boy a break for god sake.
rockin67
19-05-2015
I think people have to be realistic. Most HMs have issues that they hope fame will solve, it won't of course. No sensible person would consider going on BB. No sensible person would think becoming famous was a good idea in itself, although its great if its a side effect of your career. They describe themselves as models, rappers etc, but we all know they are sidelines not careers. HMs are often obviously emotionally volatile even when age is taken into consideration. They tend to be immature also. Christian is a fantasist (read his bio on music website) who thinks he's from da streets but is he any worse than the average looking jade who proclaimed herself physically beautiful and having a beautiful soul. Or Adjoa who has trouble forming sentences yet claims to be a law student.

As a parting thought, perceptions of others can be very wrong. An engineer at sun records described one teenager as a 'strange looking fella who hangs around here making a nuisance of himself'. He was talking about a young Elvis.
Cornchips
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I didn't really think too much of him at first but .............he does seem a bit 'ostracised' - I'm not sure that it is his fault.

I quite like him now.”

I feel a bit sorry for him as well. I'm not sure yet whether he is trying to play us or not but he does seem very introverted and bit out of things. Just because he is good looking doesn't necessarily mean he has had an easy ride out of life (as disappointingly suggested by Denise Roberston on BBOTS last night who ought to be ashamed of herself tbh) and I just get the feeling something is going on with him but I'm not sure what.

It may of course all be him just playing for sympathy but at this stage I'm thinking not.
Cornchips
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“Can not believe Aaron didn't get a single vote. He must be better to live with than he is to watch.”

More likely they didn't want him throwing a strop. Nick admitted in Friday that he really wanted to nominate Aaron but was scared to given how he would react. I think with face to face Noms that is what happened here
cah
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“I feel a bit sorry for him as well. I'm not sure yet whether he is trying to play us or not but he does seem very introverted and bit out of things. Just because he is good looking doesn't necessarily mean he has had an easy ride out of life (as disappointingly suggested by Denise Roberston on BBOTS last night who ought to be ashamed of herself tbh) and I just get the feeling something is going on with him but I'm not sure what.

It may of course all be him just playing for sympathy but at this stage I'm thinking not.”

I'm with you CC ,and i was bloody annoyed with Denise last night saying he's had everything handed to him on a plate etc and Rylan not pulling her up on it
Cornchips
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Why would anyone feel sorry for Cristian?


He's a white middle class idiot who speaks like he's from Da Streets and thinks he can rap.

His ridiculous accent has slipped a couple of times, he actually talks more like Jack Whitehall than Ali G.”

actually generally he speaks quite "normally" most of the time
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