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If Jade had gone and Lynne had stayed...
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george.millman
19-05-2015
In the first week of BB3, the viewers nominated the Housemates for eviction, and the Housemates had to choose who went. Jade and Lynne were nominated, and the Housemates chose to evict Lynne.

Has anyone ever reflected on the fact that had they chosen Jade instead, it would have changed the whole history of Big Brother, and by extension the rest of reality TV as well? Had Jade gone early on, she wouldn't have been invited onto Celebrity Big Brother and the Shilpa row would never have happened. Had that been the case, the producers most likely would not have got so picky about reprimanding Housemates for certain things that they do or say, and the social situations probably wouldn't be as controlled. And it was after Shilpagate that people started thinking the programme was going downhill, so that was a milestone, even though I wasn't watching it then. Who knows, maybe it would still be on Channel 4, if it had remained popular.

Additionally, I think that Jade Goody had quite a key presence in the celeb culture world. I feel like she glorified the stereotype of being a bit thick and made certain things a little less intellectual, which could easily be considered the forerunner of programmes like The Only Way Is Essex (which admittedly I've never watched, so perhaps that is a little insulting, but I'm going on what I've heard).

Has anyone else thought how reality TV would have developed if the BB3 lot had chosen to evict Jade over Lynne? Bit of a butterfly effect there.
DamienS
19-05-2015
You could say that about everything in life.
george.millman
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by DamienS:
“You could say that about everything in life.”

Some more than others.
Master Ozzy
19-05-2015
If Jade gone and Lynne had stayed, I think Lynne would have provided quite a bit of entertainment for us as she was a bit of a nut job. However, love or hate Jade, she was a fantastic housemate in BB3 and I very much doubt Lynne would have been as great a housemate as Jade was.
Stube
19-05-2015
I guess you could say that Jade made and broke Big Brother. She was the show's biggest success post-show and her name alone promoted the show. Maybe once people started to see the impact the show had on Jade's life, some saw it as a way of becoming a big celebrity - hence the big characters who entered BB5 onwards. The general consensus is that the Golden Years of Big Brother were BB5/BB6/BB7. Would they have been as entertaining with as brilliant housemates if Jade Goody never became so successful? Who knows - probably not. It's a real shame how BB has declined to what it is today (it's not bad but it's not the same show) and I'd say quite a lot of it was to do with the Shilpa race row and Jade was at the centre of it. Jo and Danielle were by no means innocent in all of it but they were clearly the sheep from what I remember. If Jade never re-entered the house in 2007, I don't think the race row would have happened. It's a very weird thing thinking of how Jade has changed the course of Big Brother. Without her it could have fizzled out after a few more seasons or without her it could have remained a flagship show on Channel 4 to this day.
honeythewitch
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“In the first week of BB3, the viewers nominated the Housemates for eviction, and the Housemates had to choose who went. Jade and Lynne were nominated, and the Housemates chose to evict Lynne.

Has anyone ever reflected on the fact that had they chosen Jade instead, it would have changed the whole history of Big Brother, and by extension the rest of reality TV as well? Had Jade gone early on, she wouldn't have been invited onto Celebrity Big Brother and the Shilpa row would never have happened. Had that been the case, the producers most likely would not have got so picky about reprimanding Housemates for certain things that they do or say, and the social situations probably wouldn't be as controlled. And it was after Shilpagate that people started thinking the programme was going downhill, so that was a milestone, even though I wasn't watching it then. Who knows, maybe it would still be on Channel 4, if it had remained popular.

Additionally, I think that Jade Goody had quite a key presence in the celeb culture world. I feel like she glorified the stereotype of being a bit thick and made certain things a little less intellectual, which could easily be considered the forerunner of programmes like The Only Way Is Essex (which admittedly I've never watched, so perhaps that is a little insulting, but I'm going on what I've heard).

Has anyone else thought how reality TV would have developed if the BB3 lot had chosen to evict Jade over Lynne? Bit of a butterfly effect there.”

You are forgetting that Lynne was on the verge of punching Spencer in the face, so it could have all gone wrong even quicker.
george.millman
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“You are forgetting that Lynne was on the verge of punching Spencer in the face, so it could have all gone wrong even quicker.”

I haven't actually seen BB3 yet, I just know that was the outcome of the first week.
honeythewitch
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“I haven't actually seen BB3 yet, I just know that was the outcome of the first week.”

She wants a fan of Spencer.
Selena
19-05-2015
Originally Posted by Stube:
“I guess you could say that Jade made and broke Big Brother. She was the show's biggest success post-show and her name alone promoted the show. Maybe once people started to see the impact the show had on Jade's life, some saw it as a way of becoming a big celebrity - hence the big characters who entered BB5 onwards. The general consensus is that the Golden Years of Big Brother were BB5/BB6/BB7. Would they have been as entertaining with as brilliant housemates if Jade Goody never became so successful? Who knows - probably not. It's a real shame how BB has declined to what it is today (it's not bad but it's not the same show) and I'd say quite a lot of it was to do with the Shilpa race row and Jade was at the centre of it. Jo and Danielle were by no means innocent in all of it but they were clearly the sheep from what I remember. If Jade never re-entered the house in 2007, I don't think the race row would have happened. It's a very weird thing thinking of how Jade has changed the course of Big Brother. Without her it could have fizzled out after a few more seasons or without her it could have remained a flagship show on Channel 4 to this day.”

I agree with all this.
dd68
20-05-2015
Has the OP been wondering about this for 12 years?
Janette800
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“If Jade gone and Lynne had stayed, I think Lynne would have provided quite a bit of entertainment for us as she was a bit of a nut job. However, love or hate Jade, she was a fantastic housemate in BB3 and I very much doubt Lynne would have been as great a housemate as Jade was.”

Spot on
gentleguy
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“She wants a fan of Spencer. ”

spencer was so hot back then not so much now tho lol.
honeythewitch
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“She wants a fan of Spencer. ”

Wasn't.
honeythewitch
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by gentleguy:
“spencer was so hot back then not so much now tho lol.”

Oh? I havent seen him on anything for a while. I used to enjoy his fishing shows and how he used to kiss the fish and put it back.
gentleguy
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“Oh? I havent seen him on anything for a while. I used to enjoy his fishing shows and how he used to kiss the fish and put it back.”

the last was proberly like 2 years ago he was on some big brother thing with sam pepper, josie, glynn and other ex bb people cant remember what the show was though. he is still fairly hot i guess but hes put on weight.
VoodooChic
20-05-2015
I liked Lynne
Captain Kipper
20-05-2015
Weirdly, I think Jade would still be alive if she had gotten evicted first instead of Lynne.
VoodooChic
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Weirdly, I think Jade would still be alive if she had gotten evicted first instead of Lynne.”

And Lynne would be dead?
Captain Kipper
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by VoodooChic:
“And Lynne would be dead?”

No.

But if Jade got evicted first she never would have been famous and might have taken more care of her health, instead of going around the world trying to get into any and every reality TV show.

She found out she had cancer while appearing in BB India, she should have been back here waiting for her test results instead of trying to extend her 15 mins of fame.
honeythewitch
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“No.

But if Jade got evicted first she never would have been famous and might have taken more care of her health, instead of going around the world trying to get into any and every reality TV show.

She found out she had cancer while appearing in BB India, she should have been back here waiting for her test results instead of trying to extend her 15 mins of fame.”

Her location wouldn't have made a difference. She came straight home and I think it was already too late by then, sadly.
george.millman
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by dd68:
“Has the OP been wondering about this for 12 years?”

No, not at all!

I haven't actually seen BB3, I just learned of what happened in Week 1 recently. And I know that Jade had a massive influence on Big Brother, which in turn had a lot of consequences for the entire genre, so learning that the Housemates had the chance to evict her in Week 1 intrigued me. It's really interesting to reflect on, I think.
Rachael.
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“No, not at all!

I haven't actually seen BB3, I just learned of what happened in Week 1 recently. And I know that Jade had a massive influence on Big Brother, which in turn had a lot of consequences for the entire genre, so learning that the Housemates had the chance to evict her in Week 1 intrigued me. It's really interesting to reflect on, I think.”

You should watch BB3 it's my favourite series. I remember my mum sitting up until the early hours of the morning watching the live feed. It's one of those series you really miss when it's finished. I re watched it last year as I was only 11 when it aired and it was brilliant.
george.millman
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Rachael.:
“You should watch BB3 it's my favourite series. I remember my mum sitting up until the early hours of the morning watching the live feed. It's one of those series you really miss when it's finished. I re watched it last year as I was only 11 when it aired and it was brilliant.”

Maybe I will. I want to watch all the old series actually - I watched bits of Series 8, and only started watching regularly from Series 9 onwards, but not the celebrity series (yes, I am aware of the irony, that I started watching it at exactly the time that it stopped being really popular.)

I've started Series 1 loads of times on YouTube, but I've never got around to finishing it. I may well watch BB3 one day. I know it had the first female winner, that's something notable about it, and introduced both Jade Goody and Alison Hammond.
BeeBumble
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“No.

But if Jade got evicted first she never would have been famous and might have taken more care of her health, instead of going around the world trying to get into any and every reality TV show.

She found out she had cancer while appearing in BB India, she should have been back here waiting for her test results instead of trying to extend her 15 mins of fame.”

I seem to remember she had all the appropriate tests it was just a tragic fluke of medicine that it was found late.

If it wasn't for Big Brother it would have also been unlikely she'd have had her sons.
Captain Kipper
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“Her location wouldn't have made a difference. She came straight home and I think it was already too late by then, sadly.”

Yes but maybe if she was checking her health more often instead of jetting off around the world doing TV shows she might have caught the cancer early...that's my point.
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