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The Public think that Harriet is better looking than Jade, Adjoa and the Twins
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Veri
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by peterstone:
“I don't think the twins are OBVIOUSLY the best looking. Adjoa and Sarah appeal to me more although unlike some on here I do think the twins are attractive”

Perhaps not obviously, but I think the twins may well actually be the best looking. (Which is different from saying they have the most appeal to me.)

It's hard to say, because I don't think BB ever gives us a very good look at them. I still can't tell which is which, while I always have been able to with twins in the past.

But it does seem obvious to me that Sarah is not as good looking as people thought at first, and that Jade and and Adjoa aren't either but (especially Jade) not by as much.
peterstone
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Perhaps not obviously, but I think the twins may well actually be the best looking. (Which is different from saying they have the most appeal to me.)

It's hard to say, because I don't think BB ever gives us a very good look at them. I still can't tell which is which, while I always have been able to with twins in the past.

But it does seem obvious to me that Sarah is not as good looking as people thought at first, and that Jade and and Adjoa aren't either but (especially Jade) not by as much.”

Trust me, I've had plenty of good looks at the twins and I do think they're good looking and very fanciable.

They're still not in my top two though. I think Sarah looks good even when she's just slobbing around in a sweatshirt and jeans (which she usually is wearing) and Adjoa is just simply beautiful in my eyes.

Overall package, body and face (forget personality because I have no problem with any of them really) I'd have to say Adjoa tips it for me just, from Sarah.
Alrightmate
20-05-2015
It might be worth bringing up at this point that the poll question wasn't 'Who is the best looking?', it was 'Who is the most attractive?'.
peterstone
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“It might be worth bringing up at this point that the poll question wasn't 'Who is the best looking?', it was 'Who is the most attractive?'.”

Still baffling to me that Harriet came 2nd then.
In fact, even more baffling.
SneakyBoo
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Not to me. I think they are very manly looking. I actually think Chloe is prettier than the twins.”

I'm with you I think Chloe has a very natural beauty.
The Twins look kinda fake to me and manly in their features.
Sarah and Adjoa look stunning.... especially when u see Adjoa with no makeup and she still looks flawless and Sarah as a beautifully structured face and her features are well proportioned.
Jade is very good looking too but see looks very different with and without makeup but she does have a more unusual look.

Personally I would put all that four above the Twins.
trevor tiger
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“I think you've hit the nail on the head. On the DS X Factor forum there were hordes of young female posters constantly harping on about how 'beautiful' the members of Little Mix were. They had a HUGE girl following.

It's not because they actually are beautiful - it's because they're not particularly. It's the same with Harriet. It's non-threatening 'normalness'. It's a form of projection, I suppose; if she can stand up there and get dressed up and I say she's beautiful then it could be me. Rather innocent and understandable, I suppose, but ridiculous at the same time. ”

I think you have something here and it fits with my argument that people vote their favourites the positive attributes and those they don't like the negative whatever the actual evidence and it's certainly easier on the ear than the fat ugly birds vote in a jealous rage argument

I think Adjoa is the stunner this year but she seems to have been given the villain tag so was never going to be voted most attractive Hmm
Alrightmate
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by peterstone:
“Still baffling to me that Harriet came 2nd then.
In fact, even more baffling.”

Well you're right, it doesn't exactly help her either way.
geraldbean
20-05-2015
Completely agree! Just made a thread on it myself
keeping_it_real
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by JVS:
“The twins are obviously the best looking but they're not liked.”

They aren't facially good looking at all, they are just well groomed.

They do both have great figures though.
Veri
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by peterstone:
“Trust me, I've had plenty of good looks at the twins and I do think they're good looking and very fanciable.

They're still not in my top two though. I think Sarah looks good even when she's just slobbing around in a sweatshirt and jeans (which she usually is wearing) and Adjoa is just simply beautiful in my eyes.

Overall package, body and face (forget personality because I have no problem with any of them really) I'd have to say Adjoa tips it for me just, from Sarah.”

Sarah looks good, but she's not nearly as fantastic looking as she seemed (to many) before we saw her properly in BB. She's well behind the sorts of HMs who were thought to be best looking in past series.

Originally Posted by keeping_it_real:
“They aren't facially good looking at all, they are just well groomed.

They do both have great figures though.”

But the twins are facially good looking, as such things are normally judged.

Certainly more so than Harriet or Chloe!
Scarlet O'Hara
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I think you have something here and it fits with my argument that people vote their favourites the positive attributes and those they don't like the negative whatever the actual evidence and it's certainly easier on the ear than the fat ugly birds vote in a jealous rage argument

I think Adjoa is the stunner this year but she seems to have been given the villain tag so was never going to be voted most attractive Hmm”

You're totally right. It was the same with Helen last year getting labeled 'most this or that' or Perez in CBB or Hazel in BB14.

I don't know if it's unconscious from poll voters (eg 'the halo effect'), where liking someone confers other positive traits onto them, or if they consciously use the polls to send a message "I like you/I don't like you" or to punish/reward.

Probably both. I definitely can't understand why after two days of bitching about everyone behind their backs and objectifying the women, Danny was voted in the top 3 unless it was the halo effect (I.e he's an attractive white male who pretend-married a dying bride).
Mumberley
20-05-2015
I think Harriet has got the prettiest face.
Veri
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I think you have something here and it fits with my argument that people vote their favourites the positive attributes and those they don't like the negative whatever the actual evidence and it's certainly easier on the ear than the fat ugly birds vote in a jealous rage argument

I think Adjoa is the stunner this year but she seems to have been given the villain tag so was never going to be voted most attractive Hmm”

I think patsylimerick's post fits better with the 'jealousy' explanation. The post said "It's not because they actually are beautiful - it's because they're not particularly. It's the same with Harriet. It's non-threatening 'normalness'." -- it's because HMs such as Hariet are not particularly good looking but have non-threatening 'normal' looks.
MysteriousOz
20-05-2015
Every question was really a "do you like" question, it had very little to do with the actual question
Scarlet O'Hara
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by keeping_it_real:
“They aren't facially good looking at all, they are just well groomed.

They do both have great figures though.”

I think if they studied the twins like scientists have studied what defines 'attractive', the twins would be found to have undeniably good faces...they have even well-proportioned features, classic bone structure, full mouths (albeit enhanced), good skin tone, dazzling smiles, eyes not too far apart/close together. Personally I find them so archetypally gorgeous that it's not interesting. But I wouldn't try to deny they're not beautiful.
trevor tiger
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlet O'Hara:
“You're totally right. It was the same with Helen last year getting labeled 'most this or that' or Perez in CBB or Hazel in BB14.

I don't know if it's unconscious from poll voters (eg 'the halo effect'), where liking someone confers other positive traits onto them, or if they consciously use the polls to send a message "I like you/I don't like you" or to punish/reward.

Probably both. I definitely can't understand why after two days of bitching about everyone behind their backs and objectifying the women, Danny was voted in the top 3 unless it was the halo effect (I.e he's an attractive white male who pretend-married a dying bride).”

I think it's about punishing a disliked HM when loading the negatives their way and sticking the boot in further to the disliked HM when loading the positive comments elsewhere The BB audience / voters are all stick and no carrot I do think there's some pleasure to be had in seeing a hated HM humiliated and squirming but the trouble here is that we barely know them and have had to almost make up a baddie to meet out the punishment to. Also, a good looking, 'do gooder', male HM is always going to get the benefit of the doubt and so won't be punished at this early stage.

The thing is BB is truly pantomime now but as it turns out the HMs aren't actually actors so it's all a bit gruesome and unedifying.

I actually like Adjoa and so for her benefit agree with her when she said she wasn't meant to be there. If it's going to continue like this it would be good for her to go sadly.
patsylimerick
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlet O'Hara:
“I think if they studied the twins like scientists have studied what defines 'attractive', the twins would be found to have undeniably good faces...they have even well-proportioned features, classic bone structure, full mouths (albeit enhanced), good skin tone, dazzling smiles, eyes not too far apart/close together. Personally I find them so archetypally gorgeous that it's not interesting. But I wouldn't try to deny they're not beautiful.”

But those jaws!

Sorry - but they're channeling Bruce Forsythe for me.
Jakobjoe
20-05-2015
The twins could be models so I'm shocked they didn't come number one in best looking.
This year a lot of the housemates are ordinary looking so they haven't been picked for model type looks.
trevor tiger
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I think patsylimerick's post fits better with the 'jealousy' explanation. The post said "It's not because they actually are beautiful - it's because they're not particularly. It's the same with Harriet. It's non-threatening 'normalness'." -- it's because HMs such as Hariet are not particularly good looking but have non-threatening 'normal' looks.”

Well my view would be that voting for a non threatening candidate doesn't necessarily mean that you are jealous of the so called threatening candidate but obviously I don't know what Patsy actually meant by what she said.
kafka_..
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Melax:
“And this is why a bunch of dull males always coasts through to the final week. Because the 'slummy mummy' morons that vote get obsessed about evicting all the pretty girls first.”

agreed
momoriro
20-05-2015
Harriet is what Kat from Eastenders would look like if her face had been run over by a steamroller.
patsylimerick
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Well my view would be that voting for a non threatening candidate doesn't necessarily mean that you are jealous of the so called threatening candidate but obviously I don't know what Patsy actually meant by what she said.”

I think if you're sat at home and you look a bit like Harriet and you're 17 or 18 the temptation is to vote for Harriet as the most attractive because it is, in a way, self-affirming to then watch the results come in and watch someone who looks like you being named most attractive. That's the same reason why you wouldn't vote for Sarah, or Jade, or Adjoa or the twins; because you feel they're better-looking than you and you wouldn't get that nice, warm, fuzzy feeling when Ms. Normal wins the crown.

It's why all those 'ugly duckling' chick flicks do so well at the Box Office. You have to leave your brain in the foyer, of course, to ignore the fact that the 'ugly duckling' was a thinly disguised stunner to begin with.
patsylimerick
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by momoriro:
“Harriet is what Kat from Eastenders would look like if her face had been run over by a steamroller.”

Given that Kat already looks, erm, compacted, that's a bit harsh!
chloedancer
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“I think if you're sat at home and you look a bit like Harriet and you're 17 or 18 the temptation is to vote for Harriet as the most attractive because it is, in a way, self-affirming to then watch the results come in and watch someone who looks like you being named most attractive. That's the same reason why you wouldn't vote for Sarah, or Jade, or Adjoa or the twins; because you feel they're better-looking than you and you wouldn't get that nice, warm, fuzzy feeling when Ms. Normal wins the crown.

It's why all those 'ugly duckling' chick flicks do so well at the Box Office. You have to leave your brain in the foyer, of course, to ignore the fact that the 'ugly duckling' was a thinly disguised stunner to begin with. ”

I totally agree with this, but then i would add this logic to evictions as well.what do you think?
Veri
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Well my view would be that voting for a non threatening candidate doesn't necessarily mean that you are jealous of the so called threatening candidate but obviously I don't know what Patsy actually meant by what she said.”

I didn't say it meant that, just that it fits better with the jealousy explanation. It's often part of the jealousy explanation that it's about looks that seem threatening, with non-threatening looks not getting the same reaction.
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