I'm glad you mentioned your office cos I've made a similar comparison in other threads. We don't get to choose our workmates and every place I've worked is a real mix of intelligence levels and personalities, but despite that, the proportion of my colleagues, past and present, who are more interesting or articulate than this BB cast is way higher.

It feels like the casting director walked into the local Wetherspoons and said "you'll do".

Just goes to show the level of education that people are leaving school with. You don't have to be academically clever, but some intelligence and common sense would be good and there's just the shallowest conversation. None of them seem to have any depth at all. All very one dimensional and boring.

perhaps you didnt get the point because they are spot on to what i was saying...

people who watch those shows expect from the first minute them to be performing
so both are scripted, structured and planned to deliver before filming starts, and then edited to look seamless and thus deliver what the viewer expected. .

OP i'm surprised you didn't mention the dumbest of them all. Danny.

And i'm not falling for the nice guy act either. Only one who seems mildly interesting is Sarah

I think it was BB3 wasn`t it? Then BB4 was a total snoozefest & since BB5 its been all about the fighting, which personally I find very tedious.

And what is going on with Cristian??... He seems obsessed with proving he is the strongest man in there. Started with spoonfighting, then arm wrestling, then slapping each other. So far he isn`t doing well against Kieran & Danny, is he gonna carry on till he wins something?.... Its like kids in the playground, whats wrong with these people??

I'm still willing to give it a chance; though - particularly after the last two years where I felt dirty watching it!

Ultimately, I like the slightly 'boring' episodes. I'm fascinated by the little gestures and interactions - like the boys play fencing, Eileen gets narky, the twins and Adjoa don't know whether to laugh or not, or how much; that's why I like BB and always have - from series one, episode one. If the first series was shown now, there'd be howls of BORING! from the rooftops.

Because the hms seem (and it's very early, to be fair to them) to be quite bland and one-dimensional compared with the BB1 housemates it's a little tedious; but I'm still enjoying it.

Is is not the case that some of them have been to uni, Sarah,Jade,Cristian,Twins,Joel and maybe Aron??.

But on last nights BOTS Dr Sam said that Sarah was super smart , maybe because she was studying Law at Keele Uni

it is funny looking at the complaints and how after a few days it was not "the same but different, not manipulated but natural, interesting not dull, not structured but random yet what they wanted to see" and all from the off...

impossible demands and just not in keeping with the reality of "people in a house without being pushed into likely outcomes with tasks designed to provoke a likely reaction from chosen housemates with specific traits"


anyway... are they the most thick?

no... are they more naturally "tuned" to towie structuring of their interaction - yes, but so are most people their age when put in that situation.

oh... and the series has echoes to some of the cast of BB5 and BB6 so, thickest, no because the people are similar to before...

You started your post by suggesting that not finding this cast interesting after 1 week is a fault of the viewer's (e.g. my) imagination.

It's pretty clear from the comments of others in this thread that your assumption certainly about us, is plain wrong. We're not TOWIE watchers (Im a Mad Men, Game of Thrones gal myself), and we don't want fireworks from day 1 like last year. I'd be quite happy watching some coherent adult conversation, some wit, some silliness, the odd snaffle, or some interesting dynamics form.

The best seasons, eg BB2, were patently not scripted. What they were is well cast (so I'll concede with your point about pre-planning). And with live feed, we were able to see without any interference, how interesting those casts were. I can't imagine myself watching this cast on live feed when even a structured edit and outside interference like face-to-face noms and viewer polls can't make them interesting.

Funny cos I was thinking of BB3 in the back of my mind when I posted that. I'd sit watching the LF till the small hours with my mum and we would literally be wetting ourselves & roaring our eyes out Even when they'd had a drink, they were genuinely funny. Remember one night during the rich/poor divide. I think it was Jonny who snook through the bars under his duvet one night to rob some chocolate. It was just so natural, you couldn't help but laugh.
Even BB lacks the fun and humour. There was a time the secret tasks were set to cause amusing mischief. Now every thing just falls ... flat. Whether that's just a reflection on the housemates or BB's lack of creativity and imagination, I don't know.

As for Cristian.... I just zone right out when he's on screen

I wasn't a fan of BB6 due to the incessant fighting and sex hijinks, but it's completely inaccurate to suggest that HMs like Makosi, Kamal, Derek, Craig or even Science were "similar" eg thick and bland, to this cast (Vanessa is about the only comparison I can think of). Ditto BB5, which might have had dimwit Emma but also had (like em or loathe them), Marco, Nadia, Dan, Becky, Michelle, Shell, and the jungle twins, all varying levels of education but none of them thick.

EDIT: I'm actually just imagining this cast now doing the famous BB6 box task, which had me laughing out loud back then, listening to Derek and Science bicker or Makosi being haughty. This year it would literally sound like watching paint dry.

She has done a term there I think or possibly a year and has no obviously walked out of uni if she was ever there in the first place..

Spot on.

Exactly. One stupid incident this morning in our office (and it was rather childish and silly) came about when the office junior tried to change the black toner on the photocopier, she managed to drop the whole thing and was covered in black soot like stuff. When she walked away to get the hoover she left two white footprints where her feet had been. Okay, its not really that funny but one of my colleagues started to giggle quietly, which was infectious and eventually had us all crying with laughter (lord knows why). We are all of different ages, the junior is 17, I'm 57 and the rest of the staff are between 17 and 65 but we all find common ground and humour, things to talk about other than the price of eggs.

I do seem to recall Chicken Stu was also touted at the time as being the most intelligent housemate ever

But no, I do agree with you here Scarlet. They were all much more diverse also and individual.

you still assume the meaning not the meaning rather than understand the meaning it was written with... and thus you still dont get what i said... you have applied the examples with your understanding not with what it actually was. internalised assumptions are clouding your comprehension.

Maybe its just me, but I have no idea what you're going on about in this post. Especially the first sentence.

Praise the Lord! I thought it was just me.

Use the Force Scarlet

I think it was less Yoda and more R2 or Jawa.

That's a good point. I've hardly watched any of this series, what with being on nights, but from what I can gather from reading the Forum it might well be that they're giving the producers what they think the producers want.

All together now; of course without a live feed ... (etc).

Sadly until they bring in some producers who don't pander to the young towie generation, I think this sort of bunch (or similar but nastier, like last year) are what's in store for us. I'm sure younger viewers will still lap this lot up unfortunately.

Yes bland is the word I'd use too

Jade will be voted out to a tsunami of boos the first chance viewers get.

Everything she does (that can be) is seen in the worst way possible. For instance, when she didn't like Eileen's reason for nominating her, this was seen as thinking no one should ever nominate her, or even that they had no right to. There's even a growing number of claims that Jade isn't good looking, to deny that she has even one positive quality.

And one of the reasons the eggs stuff is getting so much attention, imo, is that it's given people who already disliked the twins something they wanted but had lacked: definite BB 'crimes' to use against them.

Just noticed its your first post Sal. Welcome to the forum.