any Television technological events taking place?

iceola · 21-05-2015, 16:48

in the U.K.
where you can see the next generation of televisions being displayed?

Thanks in advance

Nigel Goodwin · 21-05-2015, 19:09

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in the U.K.
where you can see the next generation of televisions being displayed?

Any TV shop? - the Android sets should be around about now?, or perhaps have been for a bit?.

mooghead · 21-05-2015, 22:42

Saw a massive TV in a shop called 'Brighthouse' showing 4k TV. People were queuing up to buy it to see Jeremy Kyle in all his glory.... I decided they deserve what they get so just walked past......

Winston_1 · 21-05-2015, 23:33

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Originally Posted by mooghead

Saw a massive TV in a shop called 'Brighthouse' showing 4k TV. People were queuing up to buy it to see Jeremy Kyle in all his glory.... I decided they deserve what they get so just walked past......

How will they do that when there are no 4K transmissions?

Mr Dos · 22-05-2015, 02:39

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Originally Posted by mooghead

Saw a massive TV in a shop called 'Brighthouse' showing 4k TV. People were queuing up to buy it to see Jeremy Kyle in all his glory.... I decided they deserve what they get so just walked past......

Many years ago, a neighbour got a 32" flat TV from Brighthouse. He said 'it's only £9.99 a week'. That was over 3 years ie > £1.5K. I told him they were £250 on Amazon.

It gets worse - after about 9 months he fell behind with the payments and 2 large gentlemen with shaved heads came round and took it back - no ifs or buts. 400 quid down and no TV.

grahamlthompson · 22-05-2015, 09:59

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Originally Posted by mooghead

Saw a massive TV in a shop called 'Brighthouse' showing 4k TV. People were queuing up to buy it to see Jeremy Kyle in all his glory.... I decided they deserve what they get so just walked past......

At best it would be 1920 x 1080 upscaled by the TV to 4K. It doesn't look much different to a FULL-HD TV.

Proper dealers have real 4K demo content on a hard disk media player.

technologist · 22-05-2015, 10:54

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Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

At best it would be 1920 x 1080 upscaled by the TV to 4K. It doesn't look much different to a FULL-HD TV.

Proper dealers have real 4K demo content on a hard disk media player.

But it does not have have the HDR HFR wider Color gamut which you can see more than 1. 5 H fromthe screen ... Which is what uhd1ph2 brings

See that ... And there is a great wow....

For real techies .. I picked up this
http://www.mediaandbroadcast.bt.com/...HDTV-final.pdf
from BT Media and broadcast at a SMPTE meeting this week ....

Nigel Goodwin · 22-05-2015, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by technologist

But it does not have have the HDR HFR wider Color gamut which you can see more than 1. 5 H fromthe screen ... Which is what uhd1ph2 brings

See that ... And there is a great wow....

Sorry - but I suspect it's FAR more likely to be a great yawn - I suspect the potential increase in colour gamut will make sod all visible difference.

What WOULD make a difference would be simply sticking to Full HD and stopping the excessive compression used - going back to the original HD broadasts quality would make 4K a complete waste of time (even more than it is already).

2Bdecided · 22-05-2015, 13:14

Proper HDR is genuinely a night-vs-day difference.

technologist · 22-05-2015, 13:22

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Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Sorry - but I suspect it's FAR more likely to be a great yawn - I suspect the potential increase in colour gamut will make sod all visible difference.

What WOULD make a difference would be simply sticking to Full HD and stopping the excessive compression used - going back to the original HD broadasts quality would make 4K a complete waste of time (even more than it is already).

Color gamut is perhaps less of a wow that HDR generally and HFR on anything other than slow drama.... But it dues make a difference ... Like Getting a coke bottle the right colour.

And I forgot immersive audio....

Jut to point out that the BBC HD services have increased quality measured by their jnds over the years ...
Their use if Psnr was a disaster
.. But it is working more to a set /switch Toolkits and hence instantaneous bit rate to quality level ..... At the moment BBC one is constrained to a peak number which would be over 15 M bit/sec

spiney2 · 25-05-2015, 13:57

not in Argos, where u r most likely to buy it ...... maybe best places are online gadget review blogs ....... the current vending war is tween different gadgets for broadband video streamimg ....

spiney2 · 25-05-2015, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by technologist

Color gamut is perhaps less of a wow that HDR generally and HFR on anything other than slow drama.... But it dues make a difference ... Like Getting a coke bottle the right colour.

And I forgot immersive audio....

Jut to point out that the BBC HD services have increased quality measured by their jnds over the years ...
Their use if Psnr was a disaster
.. But it is working more to a set /switch Toolkits and hence instantaneous bit rate to quality level ..... At the moment BBC one is constrained to a peak number which would be over 15 M bit/sec

lots of interior scenes in historical costume drama helps ....... the beeb dont seem to make many shakey camera action blockbusters .....

21-05-2015, 16:48	#1
iceola Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 323	any Television technological events taking place? in the U.K. where you can see the next generation of televisions being displayed? Thanks in advance

21-05-2015, 19:09	#2
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by iceola in the U.K. where you can see the next generation of televisions being displayed? Any TV shop? - the Android sets should be around about now?, or perhaps have been for a bit?.

21-05-2015, 22:42	#3
mooghead Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 572	Saw a massive TV in a shop called 'Brighthouse' showing 4k TV. People were queuing up to buy it to see Jeremy Kyle in all his glory.... I decided they deserve what they get so just walked past......

21-05-2015, 23:33	#4
Winston_1 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,008	Quote: Originally Posted by mooghead Saw a massive TV in a shop called 'Brighthouse' showing 4k TV. People were queuing up to buy it to see Jeremy Kyle in all his glory.... I decided they deserve what they get so just walked past...... How will they do that when there are no 4K transmissions?

22-05-2015, 02:39	#5
Mr Dos Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,574	Quote: Originally Posted by mooghead Saw a massive TV in a shop called 'Brighthouse' showing 4k TV. People were queuing up to buy it to see Jeremy Kyle in all his glory.... I decided they deserve what they get so just walked past...... Many years ago, a neighbour got a 32" flat TV from Brighthouse. He said 'it's only £9.99 a week'. That was over 3 years ie > £1.5K. I told him they were £250 on Amazon. It gets worse - after about 9 months he fell behind with the payments and 2 large gentlemen with shaved heads came round and took it back - no ifs or buts. 400 quid down and no TV.

22-05-2015, 09:59	#6
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	Quote: Originally Posted by mooghead Saw a massive TV in a shop called 'Brighthouse' showing 4k TV. People were queuing up to buy it to see Jeremy Kyle in all his glory.... I decided they deserve what they get so just walked past...... At best it would be 1920 x 1080 upscaled by the TV to 4K. It doesn't look much different to a FULL-HD TV. Proper dealers have real 4K demo content on a hard disk media player.

22-05-2015, 10:54	#7
technologist Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 7,519	Quote: Originally Posted by grahamlthompson At best it would be 1920 x 1080 upscaled by the TV to 4K. It doesn't look much different to a FULL-HD TV. Proper dealers have real 4K demo content on a hard disk media player. But it does not have have the HDR HFR wider Color gamut which you can see more than 1. 5 H fromthe screen ... Which is what uhd1ph2 brings See that ... And there is a great wow.... For real techies .. I picked up this http://www.mediaandbroadcast.bt.com/...HDTV-final.pdf from BT Media and broadcast at a SMPTE meeting this week ....

22-05-2015, 11:34	#8
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by technologist But it does not have have the HDR HFR wider Color gamut which you can see more than 1. 5 H fromthe screen ... Which is what uhd1ph2 brings See that ... And there is a great wow.... Sorry - but I suspect it's FAR more likely to be a great yawn - I suspect the potential increase in colour gamut will make sod all visible difference. What WOULD make a difference would be simply sticking to Full HD and stopping the excessive compression used - going back to the original HD broadasts quality would make 4K a complete waste of time (even more than it is already).

22-05-2015, 13:14	#9
2Bdecided Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 4,391	Proper HDR is genuinely a night-vs-day difference.

22-05-2015, 13:22	#10
technologist Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 7,519	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin Sorry - but I suspect it's FAR more likely to be a great yawn - I suspect the potential increase in colour gamut will make sod all visible difference. What WOULD make a difference would be simply sticking to Full HD and stopping the excessive compression used - going back to the original HD broadasts quality would make 4K a complete waste of time (even more than it is already). Color gamut is perhaps less of a wow that HDR generally and HFR on anything other than slow drama.... But it dues make a difference ... Like Getting a coke bottle the right colour. And I forgot immersive audio.... Jut to point out that the BBC HD services have increased quality measured by their jnds over the years ... Their use if Psnr was a disaster .. But it is working more to a set /switch Toolkits and hence instantaneous bit rate to quality level ..... At the moment BBC one is constrained to a peak number which would be over 15 M bit/sec

25-05-2015, 13:57	#11
spiney2 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 24,123	not in Argos, where u r most likely to buy it ...... maybe best places are online gadget review blogs ....... the current vending war is tween different gadgets for broadband video streamimg ....

25-05-2015, 14:00	#12
spiney2 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 24,123	Quote: Originally Posted by technologist Color gamut is perhaps less of a wow that HDR generally and HFR on anything other than slow drama.... But it dues make a difference ... Like Getting a coke bottle the right colour. And I forgot immersive audio.... Jut to point out that the BBC HD services have increased quality measured by their jnds over the years ... Their use if Psnr was a disaster .. But it is working more to a set /switch Toolkits and hence instantaneous bit rate to quality level ..... At the moment BBC one is constrained to a peak number which would be over 15 M bit/sec lots of interior scenes in historical costume drama helps ....... the beeb dont seem to make many shakey camera action blockbusters .....

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