Agree with everything you have said.

Trying to get inside BB's head is painful !

I'm pretty sure they are trying to paint a couple of HMs worse than the twins who are at risk, they won't want to lose them this early, 2 girls at once as well.

They are showing Harriet's temper quite a bit and making sure Jade is nominated by setting her up.

I'm guessing a mix of both, protecting twins and happy to lose 1 of Jade or Harriet, with the next few days making it clearer, may be going for shock effect as the house will think 'Jade' after a member of the audience called her name out whilst it could be the rise and fall of Harriet they are really going for. May have Eileen or Joel or twins or another HM running alongside in the noms but it will all be about Harriet vs Jade.

I'm not a fan of either of them but Harriet was right there. Jade knew full well she was breaking the rules and I would be in the queue behind you Scarlet.

I do think Jade is doing it intentionally though, as when she was asked if she wanted to use her luxury award she said yes. Then told hms BB forced it on her and they could help themselves ... both lies and the latter would have been a rule beak. So yep I think she is a bit of a shit stirrer.

Sarah is starting to get on my nerves too as she keep poking her nose into everything .. butt out and leave them to it.

Harriet actually has a point and is right in most of what she says but her delivery lets her down. I don't think people actually listen to her because it's just Harriet shouting and being aggressive again.

Not sure why people are suggesting Harriet will be up as a result of this surely Jade has dug her own grave here though I agree she may get saved somehow to ramp up the discontent. I wonder if Harriet is nominated will Jack save her

When BB talk about HMs discussing noms etc and they use the word 'code' could Jack have been any more obvious with his, 'I have told harriet and you 2 (chloe & joel) about jade' anything negative just before the weekend can be perceived as code if BB want it to be.

Harriet might already be on the ticket over the debate rather than this and other times she has flipped

After just watching the vid I wouldn't say she raged at Jade, she had a strop in her direction.

What she said about eating the food was right, however the punishment for eating the food if they went ahead with it may well have been something totally different to having their make up and stuff taken away.

Oh that's a fair point Her aggressiveness on it's own should get her a stack of nominations. Let's hope they don't do Nick's first and don't do face 2 face for all of them again.

I didn't say that it was. I was just highlighting an aspect of the situation which makes it different from the usual times when people get caught talking about nominations.

Harriet doesn't even put soap on her face let alone make up so what's her problem?

There are many cracks appearing and minor 'irritations' between HM's. Some of it will level out and not blow up. I don't think the Jade/Harriet conflict will - I can see this being the source of major conflict with far reaching 'ripples' - the relationship between these two (and their respective pals) will define the way BB plays out this year I think.

Probably the nearest to the truth. Scripted and manipulated to the nth degree now.

Not sure I like any of them as yet, it's hard to tell with so much being instigated by BB.

I know who I don't like and Harriett is in that throng.

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Agree, though I don't think Harriet was raging or very aggressive in that clip......Jade is pretty transparent in what she does and how she sucks up to the lads, Eileen has her number and so now do the twins, Harriet and probably Chloe too....the more I see of her the more calculating and unpleasant side is being seen...for example there was absolutely no need for her to stuff her face in the diary room and then bring a load of stuff out and display to the others what they couldn't have.
To then tell Harriet that her blatant talk of nominations were just her 'opinion' confirms she is a rather disingenuous, slippery customer who has set her sights on who she thinks is useful and who she can manipulate and has no time for those that will challenge her or who know exactly how she operates.
I presume that her luxury food perk will be taken away as part of the punishment??

Harriet saying she wish she would've taken there food, well if you would've Harriet, you would've got the house punished , so you can't moan at jade for getting the house punished. Reckon they might be able to win things back in the task today though

Errrrrrrrrm - isn't that rather the point. She said she might just as well have taken the food - at least then she'd have got something out of it. I can see her logic there (she's hungry).

My little niggle with that (and it is a little one) is the way she said 'I'.

Anyone could have taken that food and found it odd that she didn't say that, it was 'I didn't take it' as if she was being the hero for not getting the whole house a punishment, yet there were a dozen heroes that didn't take it, why not say that?
I noticed her do something similar the other day after noms. when she said 'I could go next week' no one is safe, sure she was voted top 3 not long before but again the 'I' as if it was a shocker.

I admit I don't like the woman (sorry 'girl' as Sarah said) and it may come across as nitpicking.

I'd tried to make out what the little fart Harriet was blowing her top about and I'm guessing Jade discussed noms and the HMs got punished . Dear me its not the first and last time HMs discuss noms .

Just more shit stirring from BB to cause arguments and try and get people to alienate other HMs .

Really is a sad, depressing programme when you think about . It seems the producers think it only works when people are at it's other throats, shouting and arguing and being nasty .

That's exactly what I was thinking at the time, she knew what was comming so she made sure she was cuddling the strongest male.

The giggling was bizzare, it was totally the opposite reaction that a sane well balanced person would display, as I said in one of the very early threads in here a narcissist will take any kind of attention good or bad, it was almost like she was enjoying it.
I dunno how she's going to be able to turn this around, even if she gets the boot next week she'll justify it with they're not on my level or some other inane claptrap that can't be quantified by us mere mortals.

As much as I do not like Harriet, she did have a point. Jade swans around like some princess with all her luxuries. The least she can do is keep her gob shut regarding nominations.

Harriet reminds me of that angry little waitress from Cheers. Carla I think her name was.

Harriet needs anger management. She is such a foul mouth bitch!

Harriet, shut up!


*Hope she don't see this, she might rage at me for telling her to shut up!*

she reminds me a bit of Lisa BB7 when she starts raging .

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Oh she so does ...

I really dislike Jade and find her a sly little madam and i'm glad Harriet called her out ,

I agree. She seems to view people through a prism of narcissistic threat or reward. And they WILL take any kind of attention.