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Why Does Jade Have Fans?!?!
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constantino_chr
25-05-2015
Because she's a QUEEN. Duh.

What's wrong with finding yourself beautiful? It's pathetic that it is seen as abnormal to not constantly self-deprecate and beg for validation. British people hate confidence because they don't have it.

She's the most interesting and entertaining housemate. Much better than the dull 'normal' plebs like Danny, Chloe and Jack.
Veri
25-05-2015
Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“I find the twins jealous and bitchy, jade is just jade. away with the fairies but not malicious. The most horrible Hm is Eileen.”

Yes, that sounds about right.
Harto
25-05-2015
I wasn't a big fan of Jade until about 3-4 days ago,
While I don't want her to win she's in my top 5 housemates now and I really hope she stays.

She's like a pantomime villain and she deserves to stay atleast until the twins are gone.
Kromm
25-05-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“She's not a "trouble maker" or a bad person, at least not in what's been shown so far.

The level of dislike for her is way out of proportion to anything she's done "wrong"”

You're just proving my point. You won't even allow a GENERAL criticism to exist without strident defense of her.

If she's entertaining, so be it. There's no need to prop her up otherwise.
dialectic
25-05-2015
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“Idiots on this show ALWAYS seem to develop fan bases based on a certain percentage loving ANY trouble maker, but then for some reason also getting backed into a corner trying to make those contestants out as good people as well.

In Jade's case there's also a certain percentage who will automatically defend her because she's Irish (just as there's a certain percentage who will automatically attack her for the same reason).

There's a certain percentage who will automatically defend her because they like looking at her (some who honestly admit that's the case and others who do but deny it's a reason for trying to bestow sainthood on a crackpot like this).

There's a certain percentage who support her just to be contrary to people who pan her.

There's a certain percentage who support her specifically because they dislike someone she's had conflict with in the house (and build her up in their minds even more, because of that tendency to want a "hero" to oppose their designated "villain"--no matter how badly the "hero" fits that role).

And I suppose there's a certain percentage who genuinely like egotistical nutbags. Because YES, they're entertaining. You can't deny that. The problem is that so many people don't admit that's the ONLY reason they want her around--they can't usually avoid the urge to defend someone entertaining on ALL accounts.”

That about sums it up covered every angle.
SneakyBoo
25-05-2015
I love Jade I think she is straight forward and just does things her own way and screw everyone else. We need to have people like her in the house.
Personally I was laughing so hard at her the most in the house. When she was doing her nom talk with Nick her face was hilarious and the way carries herself and the fact that she has such a high level of self confidence makes me love her because she is totally unapologetic about who she is and anything she does.
Lauren_Perry1
25-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dexter Fan1:
“Watching Jade is highly embarrassing. Has anyone else noticed her always flipping her hair in mirrors and lovingly staring at her "beautiful soul and appearance". Nick needs to get away from her and quickly! Jade is manipulative and I don't trust her one bit. ”

I don't like her but would rather have her than that cretin Harriot anyday, also if I hear one more person talk about how poor little baby Nick needs to get away from her I think I'm going to scream, the people saying that sound like a load of Norman Bates wannabes. Yous give me the creeps but of course whatever floats your boat.

Ironic that you find her manipulative and untrustworthy yet your name claims you were a fan of that weasel Dexter. lol
Kromm
25-05-2015
Originally Posted by Harto:
“I wasn't a big fan of Jade until about 3-4 days ago,
While I don't want her to win she's in my top 5 housemates now and I really hope she stays.

She's like a pantomime villain and she deserves to stay atleast until the twins are gone.”

See, I like this point of view, calling her a "pantomime villain". It's honest about why this person wants her around, without trying to prop Jade up otherwise. The person wants Jade BECAUSE she's nuts, no excuses. She's no queen, no "good person', maybe not even especially "beautiful" or "spiritual"--she's just a TOOL the viewer wants representing them to cause trouble.

And when she gets out? F@ck her. She'll have served her purpose.
dialectic
25-05-2015
Originally Posted by SneakyBoo:
“I love Jade I think she is straight forward and just does things her own way and screw everyone else. We need to have people like her in the house.
Personally I was laughing so hard at her the most in the house. When she was doing her nom talk with Nick her face was hilarious and the way carries herself and the fact that she has such a high level of self confidence makes me love her because she is totally unapologetic about who she is and anything she does.”

Fine, if you like her for who she is, but she is sugar-coating herself as some spiritual free-loving type when she is really a hard-nosed, competitive, ego-driven game-player.(I'm not against the game-player part, just the other traits ) So. which Jade are you talking about here?
Veri
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“You're just proving my point. You won't even allow a GENERAL criticism to exist without strident defense of her.”

I'll "allow" criticism that makes sense, and that was not a "strident defense".

I didn't even bother to point to your "egotistical nutbag" claim.

Quote:
“If she's entertaining, so be it. There's no need to prop her up otherwise.”

So if someone thinks she's entertaining, they shouldn't disagree with distorted, exaggerated, or otherwise false criticism -- on pain of having digs make against them in this forum?

In any case, I haven't even said she's entertaining.
zolug
26-05-2015
I am a fan of her beautiful soul. Seriously I do believe she is having a hard time in there with that bunch of numpties..
Veri
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“See, I like this point of view, calling her a "pantomime villain". It's honest about why this person wants her around, without trying to prop Jade up otherwise. The person wants Jade BECAUSE she's nuts, no excuses. She's no queen, no "good person', maybe not even especially "beautiful" or "spiritual"--she's just a TOOL the viewer wants representing them to cause trouble.

And when she gets out? F@ck her. She'll have served her purpose.”

You seem to think no one likes having her as a HM except those who think she's nuts and just see her as a trouble-causing tool.

I should have known it wouldn't be long before the attacks on forum members started.
R598
26-05-2015
Because apparently she is the only one that brings any source of entertainment to the show. That's it really. 😀
Captain Kipper
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dexter Fan1:
“Watching Jade is highly embarrassing. Has anyone else noticed her always flipping her hair in mirrors and lovingly staring at her "beautiful soul and appearance". Nick needs to get away from her and quickly! Jade is manipulative and I don't trust her one bit. ”

Because Eileen dared to say a few things about saint Jade...lets not forget, Jade has a beautiful soul and is a wonderful human being with no flaws, and some on here have bought it.

The backlash/pity party for "poor Jade" has begun.....Helen got the same type of support last year...and she was just as unlikeable.

Theres no accounting for taste...but everyone is entitled to their opinions.
MediaMan5
26-05-2015
Jade is my favourite housemate in their at the moment by far! She's a very refreshing housemate in this era when housemates are desperately afraid of being chanted and booed and hide their nastiness with a cloak of 'morality'. Jade is fundamentally like the majority of people, a good person with a few bad traits but she isn't afraid to show them unlike all the others.
Captain Kipper
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by R598:
“Because apparently she is the only one that brings any source of entertainment to the show. That's it really. 😀”

Yes, because seeing HM's sit on their own moaning about other Hm's with a gloomy face always entertained me.
Lou17
26-05-2015
Some people love a good BB victim campaign don't they it makes some feel like they're better people by fervently supporting them Or they simply like to support a genuine underdog for obvious reasons (justice may be). Often the hm is the perceived 'bullied' hm (the target of the pack) but I feel it's increasingly looked for each series. At times they genuinely can be, but sometimes the hm can bring it on themselves imo as in jades case. Both jade and the twins are showing their true nature's right now and neither is pleasant.

For me I think some girls that feel they've been in jades place will sympathise with her too......ie she can't possibly be disliked for her personality....oh no..... so it must be jealousy regarding her looks of course. All us female fms that dislike her are usually accused of being predictably ugly, reclusive and jealous, if we don't see her superior beauty. Their can't possibly be any other negative things that we're all seeing coming from her.

And then of course people just like her, find her misjudged/misunderstood, see a different character deeper down, or think she's an integral/entertaining hm this series. There are many reasons really, even if some are personal or even hard to grasp at times. But we all have the right to our own opinions/fav hm. For me personally I think she's manipulative and vain, but at the same time she shakes the house up so right now I'm undecided whether she should go.

Then as others have said... some fans like a 'entertaining' hm that creates all the drama, likable or not. If Helen has support, anyone can.
Lou17
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by constantino_chr:
“Because she's a QUEEN. Duh.

What's wrong with finding yourself beautiful? It's pathetic that it is seen as abnormal to not constantly self-deprecate and beg for validation. British people hate confidence because they don't have it.

She's the most interesting and entertaining housemate. Much better than the dull 'normal' plebs like Danny, Chloe and Jack.”

Seeing the beauty in yourself is great, thinking everyone loves you and must find you attractive is arrogance. There are degrees.
Veri
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by Lou17:
“... Often the hm is the perceived 'bullied' hm (the target of the pack) but I feel it's increasingly looked for each series. At times they genuinely can be, but sometimes the hm can bring it on themselves imo as in jades case. ...”

Since "it" in that case is the behaviour of other HMs, the HM cannot bring it on themself. The HMs who are targeting that HM are responsible for their own behaviour.
Veri
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by Lou17:
“Seeing the beauty in yourself is great, thinking everyone loves you and must find you attractive is arrogance. There are degrees.”

What has you believing Jade thinks everyone loves her or "must" find her anything?
quasimoron
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Fine, if you like her for who she is, but she is sugar-coating herself as some spiritual free-loving type when she is really a hard-nosed, competitive, ego-driven game-player.(I'm not against the game-player part, just the other traits ) So. which Jade are you talking about here?”

in that description you are describing all the Hm's. They are all ego driven and competitive otherwise why enter a game show with a cash prize. The vainest one in there is Eileen , just look what she has done to her face out of vanity and may I add the most ambitious for fame is Eileen, she has been on several RTV shows in the pursuit of it.

Actions speak louder than words to me and the fact Jade goes around make up less most of the time, tells me she is far from vain. if she was as vain as people make out the slap would never be off. the twins and Sara are never without makeup. She is comfortable in her skin and this why she feels beautiful. The hugs with Nick are obviously for emotional reasons, reassurance and comfort. Nick is an adult and responsible for his own words and actions.
The twins and Harriet and co laughing over her noms tonight was mean and spiteful, Eileen is very spiteful towards her and to see Nick joining in shows how two-faced he is. Again actions.
dialectic
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“i]n that description you are describing all the Hm's. They are all ego driven and competitive otherwise why enter a game show with a cash prize. The vainest one in there is Eileen , just look what she has done to her face out of vanity and may I add the most ambitious for fame is Eileen, she has been on several RTV shows in the pursuit of it.”

Oh, I agree they are all game-players - some play the game fairer, nicer or truer, to who they really are, compared to others. It's your opinion that Eileen is vainer, based on surgery, fair enough! There is enough evidence, however, that Eileen has a long, successful career prior and beyond any reality Tv stuff. More than any of them, you could say she is less of a 'wannabee' and she may be wanting to advertise her work but not trying to be the next Z list celeb in NUTS magazine or on BBOTS.
Veri
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Oh, I agree they are all game-players - some play the game fairer, nicer or truer, to who they really are, compared to others. It's your opinion that Eileen is vainer, based on surgery, fair enough! There is enough evidence, however, that Eileen has a long, successful career prior and beyond any reality Tv stuff. More than any of them, you could say she is less of a 'wannabee' and she may be wanting to advertise her work but not trying to be the next Z list celeb in NUTS magazine or on BBOTS.”

Her career, though long, has not been all that successful, and though I agree she's not a wannabe as such, I think quasimoron may be right that she most "ambitious for fame".

No one's trying to be the next Z list celeb in Nuts these days.
ericisking
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“ There's a certain percentage who will automatically defend her because they like looking at her.”

Guilty as charged

..... especially in the bikini in front of the mirror

Jade must stay
Last edited by ericisking : 26-05-2015 at 01:40
SegaGamer
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dexter Fan1:
“Watching Jade is highly embarrassing. Has anyone else noticed her always flipping her hair in mirrors and lovingly staring at her "beautiful soul and appearance". Nick needs to get away from her and quickly! Jade is manipulative and I don't trust her one bit. ”

But you liked Dexter, surely you must understand why people would like Jade. He wasn't the most likeable of people either.
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