She's a mouthbreathing moron. Her 'class' is a schtick she uses when she's run out of nothing again. I'm a product of poor council house immigrants who worked their arses off to keep us out of gangs and abject poverty. I don't act like a muppet and never have. She has a character defect which has nothing to do with her social background.
The 'classism' directed at Harriet is disgusting
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Originally Posted by Cat-:
“Sorry you are right. I meant to say without getting into a mountain of debt which is the case for many people depending on level of study and what part of the country they live in.
”
“Sorry you are right. I meant to say without getting into a mountain of debt which is the case for many people depending on level of study and what part of the country they live in.
”
It's getting more difficult, FE faces a 25 per cent cut this year. Anyone over 19 has no chance of studying fee free unless on no or a very low income. Low to medium earners are caught in a trap because they have other costs to find. Aspiration has become a buzz word since the election but achievement is now quite another matter
Education can give you economic and social mobility but more and more it is an investment and I think it should be a co investment, employers, learners and the state.
Harriet is not daft, of that I am certain. I am not a fan of her politics but she is one of a few in there who sees the BB process for what it is.
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“It's getting more difficult, FE faces a 25 per cent cut this year. Anyone over 19 has no chance of studying fee free unless on no or a very low income. Low to medium earners are caught in a trap because they have other costs to find. Aspiration has become a buzz word since the election but achievement is now quite another matter
Education can give you economic and social mobility but more and more it is an investment and I think it should be a co investment, employers, learners and the state.
Harriet is not daft, of that I am certain. I am not a fan of her politics but she is one of a few in there who sees the BB process for what it is.”
“It's getting more difficult, FE faces a 25 per cent cut this year. Anyone over 19 has no chance of studying fee free unless on no or a very low income. Low to medium earners are caught in a trap because they have other costs to find. Aspiration has become a buzz word since the election but achievement is now quite another matter
Education can give you economic and social mobility but more and more it is an investment and I think it should be a co investment, employers, learners and the state.
Harriet is not daft, of that I am certain. I am not a fan of her politics but she is one of a few in there who sees the BB process for what it is.”
Amen.
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“Some people need to be told.
I've made you think though haven't I?”
“Some people need to be told.
I've made you think though haven't I?”
Yeah, you made me think...that a lot of utter sanctiminious, uninformed rubish is being sprouted... That's what I think
Oh and I don't like foul mouthed bag of spuds on her shoulder Harriet. The world doesn't owe her a living.
Originally Posted by dtorre:
“Oh dear, you just went full crazy feminist. This makes you look bad
Sexism is discrimination based on gender. Harriet discriminated against Danny on the basis of his gender, therefore she is sexist”
“Oh dear, you just went full crazy feminist. This makes you look bad
Sexism is discrimination based on gender. Harriet discriminated against Danny on the basis of his gender, therefore she is sexist”
Yeah but in real terms sexism from women hardly effects us as men on a whole. It can be irritating but compared to the shit we give them along with periods, menopause and babies, I wouldn't swap for a second.
Originally Posted by Desy Boy:
“She's a mouthbreathing moron. Her 'class' is a schtick she uses when she's run out of nothing again. I'm a product of poor council house immigrants who worked their arses off to keep us out of gangs and abject poverty. I don't act like a muppet and never have. She has a character defect which has nothing to do with her social background.”
“She's a mouthbreathing moron. Her 'class' is a schtick she uses when she's run out of nothing again. I'm a product of poor council house immigrants who worked their arses off to keep us out of gangs and abject poverty. I don't act like a muppet and never have. She has a character defect which has nothing to do with her social background.”
Nicely said DesyB
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Yeah, you made me think...that a lot of utter sanctiminious, uninformed rubish is being sprouted... That's what I think
Oh and I don't like foul mouthed bag of spuds on her shoulder Harriet. The world doesn't owe her a living.”
“Yeah, you made me think...that a lot of utter sanctiminious, uninformed rubish is being sprouted... That's what I think
Oh and I don't like foul mouthed bag of spuds on her shoulder Harriet. The world doesn't owe her a living.
”
I don't care what you think.
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“How is that crazy feminist? Most politicians, business CEOs (i.e. the people that have the power) are men and therefore the decisions they make will reflect that.
Sexism is discrimination based on gender, I admit maybe the way my last post was articulated was not correct. However, all HMs are in the context of a patriarchal society. Think about that.”
“How is that crazy feminist? Most politicians, business CEOs (i.e. the people that have the power) are men and therefore the decisions they make will reflect that.
Sexism is discrimination based on gender, I admit maybe the way my last post was articulated was not correct. However, all HMs are in the context of a patriarchal society. Think about that.”
There is no such thing as 'patriarchal society', that's just some idiotic feminist tactic to demonize men. Women are given everything in modern society, the courts are biased towards women, the government are, the media are, etc. Women are being given token positions and quotas in high paying jobs by, guess who? Those evil men you hate so much. Funny that there are no female quotas for the front line in Afghanistan isn't it? Oh wait, that is a horrible job where you get maimed and killed so men can continue to do that like they always have
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“You can dismiss my views as 'crazy' all you want.”
“You can dismiss my views as 'crazy' all you want.”
If you keep posting crazy stuff I suppose I'll have to
Originally Posted by dtorre:
“There is no such thing as 'patriarchal society', that's just some idiotic feminist tactic to demonize men. Women are given everything in modern society, the courts are biased towards women, the government are, the media are, etc. Women are being given token positions and quotas in high paying jobs by, guess who? Those evil men you hate so much. Funny that there are no female quotas for the front line in Afghanistan isn't it? Oh wait, that is a horrible job where you get maimed and killed so men can continue to do that like they always have
If you keep posting crazy stuff I suppose I'll have to”
“There is no such thing as 'patriarchal society', that's just some idiotic feminist tactic to demonize men. Women are given everything in modern society, the courts are biased towards women, the government are, the media are, etc. Women are being given token positions and quotas in high paying jobs by, guess who? Those evil men you hate so much. Funny that there are no female quotas for the front line in Afghanistan isn't it? Oh wait, that is a horrible job where you get maimed and killed so men can continue to do that like they always have
If you keep posting crazy stuff I suppose I'll have to”
Showing your bias now. Again, think of the central tendency.
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“I don't care what you think.”
“I don't care what you think.”
Just like Harriet you don't care what anyone thinks unless they agree with you.
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Just like Harriet you don't care what anyone thinks unless they agree with you.”
“Just like Harriet you don't care what anyone thinks unless they agree with you.”
Maybe you don't either? You're making an assumption based on the way I communicate.
Originally Posted by Desy Boy:
“Yeah but in real terms sexism from women hardly effects us as men on a whole. It can be irritating but compared to the shit we give them along with periods, menopause and babies, I wouldn't swap for a second.”
“Yeah but in real terms sexism from women hardly effects us as men on a whole. It can be irritating but compared to the shit we give them along with periods, menopause and babies, I wouldn't swap for a second.”
Just because most men don't take that stuff seriously doesn't mean it should only count for women. That's not the 'equality' that women are constantly demanding. Equality works both ways or it's not equality
Periods, menopause and babies aren't men's fault so what does that have to do with anything?
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“Showing your bias now. Again, think of the central tendency.”
“Showing your bias now. Again, think of the central tendency.”
My bias towards logic? Oh no, how embarrassing
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“I don't care what you think.”
“I don't care what you think.”
Why are you on a forum then, banging your classism drum. There is a political forum on this site if that floats your boat.
Oh and good manners will take you far in life. Perhaps you should be cognizant of that..
"I made you think though"
"No not really"
"Well I don't care what you think"
wah wah wah all the way home
"No not really"
"Well I don't care what you think"
wah wah wah all the way home
Originally Posted by dtorre:
“Just because most men don't take that stuff seriously doesn't mean it should only count for women. That's not the 'equality' that women are constantly demanding. Equality works both ways or it's not equality
Periods, menopause and babies aren't men's fault so what does that have to do with anything?”
“Just because most men don't take that stuff seriously doesn't mean it should only count for women. That's not the 'equality' that women are constantly demanding. Equality works both ways or it's not equality
Periods, menopause and babies aren't men's fault so what does that have to do with anything?”
It does have something to do with anything when you think about the policies that male MPs implement that indirectly or directly affect women.
Why for instance do women have to pay tax on tampons when they can't help the fact that they bleed every month?
Originally Posted by Desy Boy:
“Yeah but in real terms sexism from women hardly effects us as men on a whole. It can be irritating but compared to the shit we give them along with periods, menopause and babies, I wouldn't swap for a second.”
“Yeah but in real terms sexism from women hardly effects us as men on a whole. It can be irritating but compared to the shit we give them along with periods, menopause and babies, I wouldn't swap for a second.”
Thanks for that Desy. That's a lovely thing to say.
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“"I made you think though"
"No not really"
"Well I don't care what you think"
wah wah wah all the way home”
“"I made you think though"
"No not really"
"Well I don't care what you think"
wah wah wah all the way home
”
I know, too funny isn't it
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Why are you on a forum then, banging your classism drum. There is a political forum on this site if that floats your boat.
Oh and good manners will take you far in life. Perhaps you should be cognizant of that..”
“Why are you on a forum then, banging your classism drum. There is a political forum on this site if that floats your boat.
Oh and good manners will take you far in life. Perhaps you should be cognizant of that..”
This is a forum. You don't know anything about how I am in real life. I'm not giving you that information.
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“I know, too funny isn't it”
“I know, too funny isn't it
”
FYI I don't care what you think if you're going to make digs about the way I convey things rather then listening to what I have to say.
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“FYI I don't care what you think if you're going to make digs about the way I convey things rather then listening to what I have to say.”
“FYI I don't care what you think if you're going to make digs about the way I convey things rather then listening to what I have to say.”
The way you convey things is what you have to say, and if an Old Etonian boar was tearing it around the BB house the way that Harriet is at the moment I wager that people would find that as objectionable, irrespective of class.
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“It does have something to do with anything when you think about the policies that male MPs implement that indirectly or directly affect women.
Why for instance do women have to pay tax on tampons when they can't help the fact that they bleed every month?”
“It does have something to do with anything when you think about the policies that male MPs implement that indirectly or directly affect women.
Why for instance do women have to pay tax on tampons when they can't help the fact that they bleed every month?”
You mean policies like sexist all-women shortlists for job positions that exclude men on the basis of their gender? e.g. the textbook definition of sexism to favour women
Why does anyone have to pay for medication when it's impossible not to catch illnesses? What you said just proves how narrow your feminist victim complex is
we are just saying she's very delusional and up herself if she ACTUALLY believes the world would be a better place if everyone was like her, I mean come in, effing and blinding every over word, if everyone was like Harriet there would be conflict here there and everywhere
Originally Posted by dtorre:
“You mean policies like sexist all-women shortlists for job positions that exclude men on the basis of their gender? e.g. the textbook definition of sexism to favour women
Why does anyone have to pay for medication when it's impossible not to catch illnesses? What you said just proves how narrow your feminist victim complex is”
“You mean policies like sexist all-women shortlists for job positions that exclude men on the basis of their gender? e.g. the textbook definition of sexism to favour women
Why does anyone have to pay for medication when it's impossible not to catch illnesses? What you said just proves how narrow your feminist victim complex is”
In a vacuum there would be no need for positive discrimination.
I'm going to eat food now, it was nice debating with you.
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“This is a forum. You don't know anything about how I am in real life. I'm not giving you that information.”
“This is a forum. You don't know anything about how I am in real life. I'm not giving you that information.”
I know that you are displaying really contentious& provocative silly soundbites with nothing of substance. How's that for you. Oh and again, manners maketh the man.. even on a forum. You might well consider that when posting.
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