I've noticed this too. And I have an idea, I work with someone who constantly makes mistakes and behaves inappropriately but nothing gets said to her because the fallout is just too draining, whereas the rest of us take criticism on the chin and correct our mistakes she will go on and on for hours trying to justify why she did what she did and how it must be someone else's fault blah de blah Match that type of behaviour along with a foul temper as in Amy and Harriet and no wonder they can't be bothered.

what was interesting during that convo was Joel's reaction ..
Joel seemed so happy and relieved someone else had noticed this.

I guess they'll be at least two noms for Harriet next week

Firstly, I really, really like Nick and really, really dislike Harriet.

However, it's just typical of this place that Harriet correctly spotting Eileen's evasion and flat to lies re 'walk in the park-gate' led to screams of BITCH! However, Nick correctly spotting Harriet's aggressiveness leads to commendations.

Can we not at least pretend to try to treat male and female hms equally?

Yep, I noticed that too. When someone is a big character, and popular in the house, it's easy to doubt yourself when you're not so keen.

I completely misread Harriet at the start. She's awful. She moans about sh*t stirring yet she is the biggest one in there! She's tried to drop the seed about Cristian trying to wind people up and get reactions after she completely overreacted after misreading a situation, and thankfully only Chloe seems to have bitten. She'll get found out by the rest soon.

I'm afraid I disagree with Harriet. The way she gleaned that information in the first place by eavesdropping and then turned it against Aaron and then went further to spread her interpretation to Sarah, was just awful. That conversation between Aaron and Eileen was none of her business. She'll turn on Jade soon enough AGAIN too. She's the worst type of troublemaker.

To be fair to her - and I re-iterate, I really don't like her - the eavesdropping was accidental. They were all hiding and Jade told Aaron that Chloe and Harriet were still missing.

I don't think she did turn it again Aaron and as for talking to Sarah about it, they're all playing he said, she said in there all the time. Apart from Cristian and Kieran.

Yes it all is a bit like Chinese Whispers. Thats always the danger though when people tune into the parts of gossip that suit them. It will be interesting to see the fallout of this. Harriet will be holding a kangaroo court and setting gallows up in the garden soon.

And I agree with your last point about Cristian and Kieran.

Yes it will, very interesting, cannot wait Love the "gallows in the garden" comment, can just see Harriet centre seat, front row, fag in mouth, knitting in hand shouting at the top of her voice "make it tighter " or as we say here in London tieta ..

You forgot the eff words in between

: Of course I did! Not had my morning coffee yet, perhaps that's Harriet's trouble, over-stimulated on caffeine, she should stick to effing 'erbal tea!

With a dollop of effing treacle. Might shut her up for a while.

I wish he would stop with his " I love such 'n such, I really do ", then to go on and say but.......

It defeats the object and makes him sound silly.

His analysis of Harriet was spot on. Hopefully he'll find some gumption to actually say this, either to her, or when he hopefully nominates her.

I completely agree. I haven't minded him at times, but he's shown a side of himself that has taken the easier route out of tricky situations and played it safe. He would go up in my estimation if he nominates Harriet. Hopefully Joel will too since both of them were discussing her.

Eileen didn't lie. Jade was the one who said her nominations were a walk in the park.

Yeah, he was just stating the blatantly obvious.


Exactly and it highlights just why BB showing housemates' noms to the rest of the house is such a bad thing. As a result other housemates are going to feel very disinclined to nominate Harriet given her likely reaction should they be shown.

I loved the way he said that, so so funny. Also completely spot on.

the right thing to do once the conversation got going was to announce their location. to stay hidden and silent during the whole conversation was nothing but eavesdropping, and was sly and morally wrong. playing some stupid extended game of hide and seek is no excuse for spying on private conversations.

It's quite funny that so many people were ventilating about Helen "intimidating" and "bullying" the house, and now we have Harriet doing the same thing but she didn't get a single nomination.

It's not only her volatile temperament that stops people nominating her. It's the fact that she, Jack, and What's-his-face were voted the most popular HMs in the first week. Until something happens that makes them realize these HMs may no longer be the most popular HMs, nobody will nominate them.

I must say I'm surprised at you and astonished at the general fixation with Eileen as the anti-Jade that's leading people to argue this ludicrous point. Walk in the park is an idiom that literally means 'easy'. Eileen absolutely fudged and lied and evaded. Even when Aaron clarified that what she said was 'very easy' and even when he said she had a dig she said 'no, no, no'. The most clear cut and proven case of lying so far this year and yet we have people who are so blinded by their dislike of a HM that they refuse to acknowledge it.

That's a very good point. It's just a shame that none of them decide to go against public opinion and say 'well the public may like you, but I don't'. Some of these hms are so lacking in confidence at the moment though, and tend to feel safe in packs.

would be better if he said it to her face for a change

Do you not think that possibly people forget some of the throw away things they say in the course of a day?

I think Eileen probably knows full well that 'A walk in the park' is an expression that she'd never use - that's why she so vehemently denied it - especially as she probably well remembers that Jade had said it.

I agree - the sentiment of what she actually said is very similar but she was asked did she use those specific words. Of course she'll deny it - she didn't say it. Jade did.

Technically Eileen didn't make the 'walk in the park' comment, those words were Jade's in response to Eileen saying her first was easy which is much the same thing. However Eileen saying the first was easy wasn't her main point, she was actually making a big deal of how difficult it was to choose a second, presumably to make herself look better to that person if (when!) nominations were shown, 'the first was easy' was maybe one tenth of what she said, the rest didn't focus on Jade at all nor did she appear to look at her as she said it.

Harriet is not so dependent on Nick for company as Jade, so would tell him to FO, he's such a miserable, twofaced rubbing, sniveling,coward he couldn't handle her and would have to rub himself even more and he thinks of himself so above the likes of Harriet having her around probably contributes to four rubs per minute. If ever anyone should keep their hands firmly in their pockets, he's it!