Yeah but Aaron didn't mean literally the exact words 'walk in the park', Aaron was using the phrase 'walk in the park' in context, as in 'did you say your nominations were a walk in the park' as in 'did you say your nominations were easy ' which Eileen did
Eileen blatantly lying to Aaron
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Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Well maybe rewind it again and look at what he then said and what she then said:
Eileen: What did Jade say?
Aaron: That you said your first vote was very easy.
Eileen: No.
Are people being deliberately obtuse here, or what?”
“Well maybe rewind it again and look at what he then said and what she then said:
Eileen: What did Jade say?
Aaron: That you said your first vote was very easy.
Eileen: No.
Are people being deliberately obtuse here, or what?”
Eileen said "no, no, no" when Aaron said he wasn't being two-faced.
To me it always seems like Eileen is trying to play the innocent victim. Making out Jade starts things for no reason when in reality it was tit for tat with both saying similar things but only after Eileen started it. Jade bitches about Eileen and Eileen bitches about Jade but for some reason Jade seems to get most of the stick for it.
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“People really hear what they want to hear. He initially said that Jade said that Eileen said it was a walk in the park, eileen denied it and asked did Jade say that; he then clarified 'you said your first one was very easy' to which Eileen replied 'no'. Which is a lie. It's that simple, really.”
“People really hear what they want to hear. He initially said that Jade said that Eileen said it was a walk in the park, eileen denied it and asked did Jade say that; he then clarified 'you said your first one was very easy' to which Eileen replied 'no'. Which is a lie. It's that simple, really.”
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Originally Posted by graciemay6:
“Yeah but Aaron didn't mean literally the exact words 'walk in the park', Aaron was using the phrase 'walk in the park' in context, as in 'did you say your nominations were a walk in the park' as in 'did you say your nominations were easy ' which Eileen did”
“Yeah but Aaron didn't mean literally the exact words 'walk in the park', Aaron was using the phrase 'walk in the park' in context, as in 'did you say your nominations were a walk in the park' as in 'did you say your nominations were easy ' which Eileen did”
Do you know what? Anyone arguing the alternative is just making themselves look stupid. It's blatantly obvious that Eileen fudged and lied and at the very VERY least lied by omission and turned the conversation to make herself look innocent when it was clearly her childish jibe that led to the walk in the park comment.
It's laughable and pathetic that anyone would argue otherwise.
Originally Posted by JustTam:
“I think the no was in reference to her digging at jade not the easy bit”
“I think the no was in reference to her digging at jade not the easy bit”
So she was just lying about that, then? Because 'the first one was easy' was a dig at Jade, no?
Aaron did mean the phrase walk in the park that's the whole point of the flashback to show it was jade to say it.
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“People really hear what they want to hear. He initially said that Jade said that Eileen said it was a walk in the park, eileen denied it and asked did Jade say that; he then clarified 'you said your first one was very easy' to which Eileen replied 'no'. Which is a lie. It's that simple, really.”
“People really hear what they want to hear. He initially said that Jade said that Eileen said it was a walk in the park, eileen denied it and asked did Jade say that; he then clarified 'you said your first one was very easy' to which Eileen replied 'no'. Which is a lie. It's that simple, really.”
Exactly. The simple fact is she lied in order to make herself look good. Odious woman.
Originally Posted by JustTam:
“Aaron did mean the phrase walk in the park that's the whole point of the flashback to show it was jade to say it.”
“Aaron did mean the phrase walk in the park that's the whole point of the flashback to show it was jade to say it.”
Walk in the park is an idiom meaning - quite literally - easy.
The flashback was to show that Eileen was the first person to say that her vote was easy, or in other words, a walk in the park.
This discussion must be the most ridiculous I've ever witnessed on DS - and that's saying something.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“True. She bounced out all happy, hugged Nick and said her nom was easy making the horrible twins laugh loudly . THAT was when Jade retorted that hers were a walk in the park. In reaction to Eileen's jibe .Truth .”
“True. She bounced out all happy, hugged Nick and said her nom was easy making the horrible twins laugh loudly . THAT was when Jade retorted that hers were a walk in the park. In reaction to Eileen's jibe .Truth .”
Exactly how it happened.
He said to her after the easy bit that he thought jade thought she was having a dig at her then she said no..she didn't say no after he said she said her nom was easy. Go back and re watch..seems like people are taking things out of context
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Do you know what? Anyone arguing the alternative is just making themselves look stupid. It's blatantly obvious that Eileen fudged and lied and at the very VERY least lied by omission and turned the conversation to make herself look innocent when it was clearly her childish jibe that led to the walk in the park comment.
It's laughable and pathetic that anyone would argue otherwise.”
“Do you know what? Anyone arguing the alternative is just making themselves look stupid. It's blatantly obvious that Eileen fudged and lied and at the very VERY least lied by omission and turned the conversation to make herself look innocent when it was clearly her childish jibe that led to the walk in the park comment.
It's laughable and pathetic that anyone would argue otherwise.”
Totally agree, bottom line is Eileen is trying to turn everything against jade and Eileen is playing the victim , she provoked a reaction from jade and then complained when she got one
Originally Posted by JustTam:
“I just rewound it ..Aaron asked if she said walk in the park and she said no. So no Eileen did not lie...and how the hell did Harriet come to the conclusion. Eileen doesn't like her when nothing was said about her..stupid paranoid mare.”
“I just rewound it ..Aaron asked if she said walk in the park and she said no. So no Eileen did not lie...and how the hell did Harriet come to the conclusion. Eileen doesn't like her when nothing was said about her..stupid paranoid mare.”
That's why she's come to that conclusion, because Eileen didn't name her in her list of HM's that she liked. She didn't name a lot of people, but Harriet is turning around to be about her and Eileen - in her opinion - not liking her because she didn't gush about her.
Originally Posted by PaleHorse:
“You're splitting hairs. Eileen knows that Jade's comment was justified, as she herself made the first snide remark. She denied it, she's lying. It matters not how Aaron phrased it.”
“You're splitting hairs. Eileen knows that Jade's comment was justified, as she herself made the first snide remark. She denied it, she's lying. It matters not how Aaron phrased it.”
^ This totally ^
And after they showed the flashback Aaron clarified what Jade actually said (which is exactly what happened 'Eileen said her first nomination was easy & what Jade said was in response to it') & Eileen denied it saying NO NO NO.
Eileen lied
Originally Posted by JustTam:
“I guess until someone can read his mind won't know..so it's a matter of perception..”
“I guess until someone can read his mind won't know..so it's a matter of perception..”
Who's reading whose mind? You just said yourself that the no was in response to the fact that she had a dig at Jade after the nomination. Which would make her a liar, no?
Originally Posted by dekaf:
“Exactly how it happened.”
“Exactly how it happened.”
Not quite. Eileen said her first nomination was easy. Then she said her second one was very hard or difficult. THEN Jade made her 'walk in the park' comment.
Nobody made Eileen say what we said, and everybody - us and they - knew who she meant.
Nobody made Jade make her remark either - and we and they also knew what she meant.
They were both immature, they were both responsible for what came out of their own mouths.
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Not quite. Eileen said her first nomination was easy. Then she said her second one was very hard or difficult. THEN Jade made her 'walk in the park' comment.
Nobody made Eileen say what we said, and everybody - us and they - knew who she meant.
Nobody made Jade make her remark either - and we and they also knew what she meant.
They were both immature, they were both responsible for what came out of their own mouths.”
“Not quite. Eileen said her first nomination was easy. Then she said her second one was very hard or difficult. THEN Jade made her 'walk in the park' comment.
Nobody made Eileen say what we said, and everybody - us and they - knew who she meant.
Nobody made Jade make her remark either - and we and they also knew what she meant.
They were both immature, they were both responsible for what came out of their own mouths.”
All true - none of which takes from the fact that Eileen did have a dig at Jade - which Aaron said - and she also said that her first vote was very easy - which Aaron said; both of which elicited 'no, no, no' from Eileen. She's a liar.
Originally Posted by ultros:
“^ This totally ^
And after they showed the flashback Aaron clarified what Jade actually said (which is exactly what happened 'Eileen said her first nomination was easy & what Jade said was in response to it') & Eileen denied it saying NO NO NO.
Eileen lied”
“^ This totally ^
And after they showed the flashback Aaron clarified what Jade actually said (which is exactly what happened 'Eileen said her first nomination was easy & what Jade said was in response to it') & Eileen denied it saying NO NO NO.
Eileen lied
”
Apart from the "no no no" was right after he said he wasn't being two faced and it seemed clear to me she was just agreeing with him given her tone.
Jade did exactly the same thing when recounting the story to Aaron and Harriet. She said, incorrectly, that Eileen called her nomination a "walk in the park" when it was Jade who used the phrase. She then left out the bit that made HER look bad.
Eileen started the original conversation, this is true. And Jade most certainly responded and then some. Both women were snide. Both came out of it looking pathetic. Both are now rewriting history to paint themselves as innocent.
Personally, I don't think either is now consciously 'lying'. I think their sense of aggrievement has now distorted their memory. This isn't uncommon.
Eileen started the original conversation, this is true. And Jade most certainly responded and then some. Both women were snide. Both came out of it looking pathetic. Both are now rewriting history to paint themselves as innocent.
Personally, I don't think either is now consciously 'lying'. I think their sense of aggrievement has now distorted their memory. This isn't uncommon.
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