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What is the point in any housemate trying?
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brad_reg
28-05-2015
If stupid twists like this are coming in all over the place then what is the point in any housemate even trying to play by the rules, play the game, work as a team etc?

The whole point is to go in the house and not get yourself nominated...

Now the producers just choose who is up so what's the point in any of it? If you know the producers are going to choose the "most entertaining" then they are all going to start playing up to the camera to stay in rather than have any REAL dynamics within the group - and if that's the case, why bother, we might as well go to a circus.
rhizo_mania
28-05-2015
If I was a HM in there after Friday, I would be thinking what's the bloody point.....
brad_reg
28-05-2015
I'm starting to wonder what's the point in watching it...
David166
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by brad_reg:
“If stupid twists like this are coming in all over the place then what is the point in any housemate even trying to play by the rules, play the game, work as a team etc?

The whole point is to go in the house and not get yourself nominated...

Now the producers just choose who is up so what's the point in any of it? If you know the producers are going to choose the "most entertaining" then they are all going to start playing up to the camera to stay in rather than have any REAL dynamics within the group - and if that's the case, why bother, we might as well go to a circus.”


Exactly. Might as well do what you want.. you maybe up you may not. Break all the rules
Big Brother will decide... I'm sick of the word "twist"... Meaningless now.... OOOH Twist..... Twist on day 1, twist every other frickin' day....
brad_reg
28-05-2015
Twist is just the get out of jail free word that they sell to us to make us feel like its ok.
carnoch04
28-05-2015
Come on people! Do we really want to watch the HM's trying not to be nominated? Sounds really dull to me.
Jaygar
28-05-2015
Is it just me who would like to see the housemates revolt? refuse to nominate or even better just all get up and walk out the firedoor as soon as the live show goes out on Friday, would love to see the panick it causes.
WhatJoeThinks
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by brad_reg:
“If stupid twists like this are coming in all over the place then what is the point in any housemate even trying to play by the rules, play the game, work as a team etc?

The whole point is to go in the house and not get yourself nominated...

Now the producers just choose who is up so what's the point in any of it? If you know the producers are going to choose the "most entertaining" then they are all going to start playing up to the camera to stay in rather than have any REAL dynamics within the group - and if that's the case, why bother, we might as well go to a circus.”

No, the whole point is to go in the house and not get yourself evicted. Ultimately, you only have to ingratiate yourself with the voting public. Winning tasks might buy you an easier ride, and getting along with others certainly will, but they're not the be all and end all. How you react to a changing environment is how you're judged in there. Adversity can be your ally and all that.
brad_reg
28-05-2015
The couple most nominated are usually the one the public would vote for anyway... So they follow...
brad_reg
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“No, the whole point is to go in the house and not get yourself evicted. Ultimately, you only have to ingratiate yourself with the voting public. Winning tasks might buy you an easier ride, and getting along with others certainly will, but they're not the be all and end all. How you react to a changing environment is how you're judged in there. Adversity can be your ally and all that.”

And the way not to get evicted is generally to be decent, and if you are decent you don't get noms.

If the game was not to get evicted, you would go about it by doing your best not to get nommed. So in the case of the housemates who are up now, they should have earned another week. But now nobody knows how to behave, how not to behave, who to nominate or why they should nominate, or what they are nominating for...
WhatJoeThinks
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by brad_reg:
“And the way not to get evicted is generally to be decent, and if you are decent you don't get noms.

If the game was not to get evicted, you would go about it by doing your best not to get nommed. So in the case of the housemates who are up now, they should have earned another week. But now nobody knows how to behave, how not to behave, who to nominate or why they should nominate, or what they are nominating for...”

Only the public get to choose who is evicted. As for not knowing how to behave, or how not to behave, since when did that depend on your circumstances? Act like a tool and you'll end up getting evicted. If you're a decent person and an entertaining HM you're in with a chance.
qwertyell
28-05-2015
The way to win the show is to not try. Sam slept his way to victory a few years back.

Katie Price phoned in her CBB win this year. A more unengaged housemate you will never see.
Veri
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by brad_reg:
“And the way not to get evicted is generally to be decent, and if you are decent you don't get noms.

If the game was not to get evicted, you would go about it by doing your best not to get nommed. So in the case of the housemates who are up now, they should have earned another week. But now nobody knows how to behave, how not to behave, who to nominate or why they should nominate, or what they are nominating for...”

But HMs who are decent often do get nominations, and ones who aren't decent may get few or none. Amy and Sally, for example, have not been decent and yet they received only one nomination this week, and one the week before.
carnoch04
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Only the public get to choose who is evicted. As for not knowing how to behave, or how not to behave, since when did that depend on your circumstances? Act like a tool and you'll end up getting evicted. If you're a decent person and an entertaining HM you're in with a chance.”

Here is a revolutionary idea, just be yourself!
Fanntastik
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Only the public get to choose who is evicted. As for not knowing how to behave, or how not to behave, since when did that depend on your circumstances? Act like a tool and you'll end up getting evicted. If you're a decent person and an entertaining HM you're in with a chance.”

That is until the producers decide to set up a quad eviction in week 2 and pretty much end your chances of staying, decent person or not.
hendoll
28-05-2015
Yeah it's just a circus now. I miss the old BB
WhatJoeThinks
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by Fanntastik:
“That is until the producers decide to set up a quad eviction in week 2 and pretty much end your chances of staying, decent person or not.”

You can only do your best, and even then you might not win. That's life.
Veri
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by carnoch04:
“Here is a revolutionary idea, just be yourself!”

Yes!

Perhaps the uncertainty created by twists and the threat of twists will get some HMs to do precisely that.
cezzy
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by hendoll:
“Yeah it's just a circus now. I miss the old BB ”

BB has evolved every year since it started. Old BB for me was series 1-4 & I'd be bored to tears watching that now. Reality TV has created a genre for those who want fame to try & seek it so how can we go backwards? Not saying I like those kind of people, however it is what it is.

I'm loving the twist because it gives everyone a chance to get rid of the HMs who try & fly under the radar. Yes the producs are pulling the strings, but that's to create a more watchable show (I hope). If this borefest continues I shall be switching off completely. Already not watching every highlights show & I normally view all the nightly episodes.
WhatJoeThinks
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by carnoch04:
“Here is a revolutionary idea, just be yourself!”

Originally Posted by Veri:
“Yes!

Perhaps the uncertainty created by twists and the threat of twists will get some HMs to do precisely that.”

I couldn't agree more. Although there are a few HMs in there who, perhaps, don't really know who they are.
Pollyusa
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by brad_reg:
“And the way not to get evicted is generally to be decent, and if you are decent you don't get noms.

If the game was not to get evicted, you would go about it by doing your best not to get nommed. So in the case of the housemates who are up now, they should have earned another week. But now nobody knows how to behave, how not to behave, who to nominate or why they should nominate, or what they are nominating for...”

Except the whole process is tainted. When BB announced to the house that Jack, Harriet, and Danny were the favorites, they immediately became immune from nomination. Not one of them has received a nomination. They didn't earn another week, the only reason they were not nominated is because BB interfered in the first place with outside interference

Additionally the twins would have likely been up if BB hadn't played Nick and Jade conversation into the house.
SegaGamer
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by cezzy:
“BB has evolved every year since it started. Old BB for me was series 1-4 & I'd be bored to tears watching that now. Reality TV has created a genre for those who want fame to try & seek it so how can we go backwards? Not saying I like those kind of people, however it is what it is.

I'm loving the twist because it gives everyone a chance to get rid of the HMs who try & fly under the radar. Yes the producs are pulling the strings, but that's to create a more watchable show (I hope). If this borefest continues I shall be switching off completely. Already not watching every highlights show & I normally view all the nightly episodes.”

Who are these HM's that have been trying to fly under the radar exactly ? Harriet hasn't exactly stayed quiet, neither have the Twins or Sarah. Danny and Keiron are there to have a laugh and Chloe is too, we just haven't seen much of her. They aren't trying to fly under the radar they just aren't a bunch of drama queens looking for constant air time.
SegaGamer
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Only the public get to choose who is evicted. As for not knowing how to behave, or how not to behave, since when did that depend on your circumstances? Act like a tool and you'll end up getting evicted. If you're a decent person and an entertaining HM you're in with a chance.”

Even that isn't true now. Marlon and Danielle were evicted without a public vote last year.
Sunnydays
28-05-2015
Who goes........the Producers decide.....
Alrightmate
28-05-2015
It depends on what you mean by 'trying'.

If you mean why should housemates bother 'trying' to not get nominated, then in some respects the twist would be a good thing.
I don't see what value there is to watch people trying to avoid being nominated.
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