To justify this twist, i have seen a lot of people say "it gives us a chance to get rid of the deadwood"

I think that argument is weak.

First off, what deadwood is up ? It's not even been 20 days yet. Harriet and Sarah are definitely not deadwood, neither are the Twins. Keiran and Danny have a laugh and feature a fair bit in the HL's so they ain't deadwood either. The only one this argument can be used against is Chloe.

Second point. Even if there is deadwood, so what ? Housemates aren't required to be argumentative and over dramatic, they have entered a show and are attempting to win £150k, the show shouldn't be fixed just to get rid of them.

They weren't nominated and 4 of them are going to be evicted. How exactly is that fair and a good twist ? it's up there with the worst twists this show has ever done. The fans of those HM's are the ones i feel sorry for, they are going to lose their favourite just because BB doesn't want them anymore.

We can't even make a judgement that they're 'deadwood' as we don't have live-feed.
Perhaps some of them, as far as producers are concerned, don't fit their imagined storyline. They may have wished for a feistier Sarah to square up to Jade or the twins. Who knows what their agenda is but it's not based on allowing for unfolding 'reality'. I know it's always been manipulated to some extent, but this is over-reaching when they just don't like the HMs, -that they themselves auditioned and chose -and tear it all up, as if to start all over again.

There is no way to justify this twist.

This is up there with the worst things Channel 5 have ever done.

It's amazing that they keep managing to make things worse. I am yet to see a single improvement from Channel 4's version.

BiB

That is true, without live feed, nobody can really say who is deadwood and who isn't.

Yeah, this deadwood argument is ridiculous. Production show us what they want us to see. They make up storylines for every houseguests and those who aren´t productions faves don´t get many screentime at all. Without a live feed we can´t judge anyone.

Evicting 4 out of 6 who aren´t even nominated is just blatantly unfair. If they wanted to do a stupid quadruple they should have put up everyone and make it vote to save. But THIS is just pathetic.

They can, though, just as they have in other years.

I'm not sure I've ever seen the lack of live feed used against a 'deadwood' claim before. It's at least very rare.

Besides, if we go down that road, it won't only be 'deadwood' opinions we shouldn't post.

I don't think it justifies the twist, but to some it would at least be a positive feature of the twist. It is possible to find positives even in something you think is unjustified.

But there is no deadwood, i don't see how they can even try and use that as a positive.

Finally someone who speaks sense. Kudos to you. Totally agree.

Well said. Finally, someone who speaks some sense.

they're all deadwood. anyone inside that house is replaceable and you'd soon forget them. aaron wont be mentioned again come next week or the 4 going

I think some of them are 'deadwood' by the usual standards. (Chloe would be first the list, imo.) But from the POV of viewers who thought this bunch was dull, most of them might seem 'deadwood'.

i think they need to be given more time before labeled deadwood, out of the ones up id say most deadwood is danny the rest i think still have more to offer

I may well forget them but i won't forget these awful twists. I have never been as close to giving up on BB as i am now. It's not even enjoyable anymore.

its time that heads rolled at the production end of things.
i think Ben Frow should be in the firing line, he is the channel 5 controller not a BB producer but he seems to get involved a hell of alot. it went downhill when he joined the channel imo

Thank you. You have said it better than I could have done.

I am fumming with this twist, although FMs are saying Danny is dull I find him and Keiron funny to watch. Who wants to watch arguing HMs all the time. Last year everyone was getting fed up with the HMs because they didn't get on and there was nearly an argument everyday. You get a peaceful house this year and people are moaning that it is boring. I am sure there is more to Danny and Chloe but because they are not getting involved with the arguements C5 are not interested in them.

Surely the game is who can reach the end without being nominated? That's what I thought BB was about. The likes of nasty Nick cheating to get to the end. They were the good old days of BB.

Meh I still don't care; last year saw more awful twists/ noms interference. And I don't agree with you about the HMS Kieran, Danny and Chloe bring nothing. The Twins have peaked with the Jade thing and due to them having boyfriends aren't going to do anything romantically. Sarah they must've been hoping to lock horns with Jade. Instead she's in a not very good faux romance with dull Danny and that's going nowhere fast. And then there is darling Harriet - about as 2D as they come, the only thing she does is bring the mood down and force her opinions on other people. None of these are great HMs and I'm glad that BB have done what they have.

Also this is about the 50th thread you've made about being aghast about the twist

Actually it's the 2nd and the first thread was about the nominations twist, this is about people trying to justify the eviction twist by calling HM's deadwood.

If you have a problem with the threads i make then don't comment in them.

Also, you are wrong about last year being worse with noms interference and twists. This year is just as bad.

How?

Last year had a noms twist EVERY single week. Barring F2F noms, week 1 had no interference barring Jack saving Cristian (who wouldn't have gone anyway). This is one big twist this week - at least people are going via a public vote during this week unlike last years awful Armageddon nonsense

I agree with the OP (SegaGamer) Nothing wrong with a little 'deadwood' floating about. A few 'deadwood' characters have even won the show over the years.

The 'deadwood' off sets the loud mouthy argumentative housemates.

Diversity amongst housemates is always a good thing IMO.

Finally, someone has made this post.

Is everyone else on this forum just really apathetic and not bothered anymore? If you are, I don't blame you, maybe you've realised BB will never be what it was and just accepted it and going with the flow... I think I should start thinking like that as well from now on.

Jack saving Cristian IS interference though so it counts just as much. Plus it was face to face noms. 2nd week of nominations their nominations were shown on the screen and then they have this crap twist ( fix ) that see's everyone who didn't receive the most noms go up for eviction.

So 2 weeks in and we have had just as much messing about with the show as we did last year.

The meddling is happening every few days, it's ridiculous.

Of course there is, 90% of the highlights shows the most exciting HMs jade and nick and all they do is lie under a duvet all day.

Overall - I don't think that they should take the contestants nominations and then just totally ignore them.

how is this eviction going to get rid of the dead wood