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Veri
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Keep Sarah!
The others can do one!”

I think Sarah's one of the better ones; but one of the problems we have now is that it looks like BB is favouring some HMs over others. Getting rid of them all can get rid of that problem too.


Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“I feel the lack of live feed means we can't properly get to know the Hm's and see them as full human beings rather than stereotypes or one-dimensional characters. This lack of connection means we can't empathise or assess the HM's correctly.
I also feel the show concentrates too much on conflict and creating divides. The fun factor is gone and also really nasty people have been cast the last few years, some even winning and that puts people off.We see the editing hide the behaviour of some and vilify others unfairly.Bots is a disgrace the way it maligns HM's.Let the Hm's interact naturally and stop casting fake actresses and actors,e.g Eileen we want real people.”

Those are all very good points, imo, and they suggest that merely replacing the HMs won't make enough difference. But a complete revamp of the show isn't possible at this point, while replacing the HMs is.

Also, people have been able to empathise with at least some of the HMs who have been in C5 BBs, and to get a fairly good idea of what they're like. None of the bb16 HMs seems to be generating the sort of enthusiasm among viewers that some past C5 HMs managed to do.
Jimmy Connors
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I didn't say I didn't know what I wanted, but starting over could be a good option in any case, even if the results didn't especially suit me. I think that starting over would have a good chance of getting a better set of HMs than keeping half of this bunch and adding 4 new.

BB has added new HMs in a group before, and I don't think it's ever worked well.

It's also likely to bring in a large amount of outside knowledge of what viewers think of the existing HMs and the new HMs may also have agendas based on that as well. That's not the sort of BB I want to watch.”

Better the devil you know for me. Chances are a new batch would be the same or even worse. At least with this lot we have had time to get to know them (even a little bit) A new lot may worse.
Veri
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“Better the devil you know for me. Chances are a new batch would be the same or even worse. At least with this lot we have had time to get to know them (even a little bit) A new lot may worse.”

That's a fair point, and if we had the option of no new HMs and only one HM going this week (which could be Aaron, who's out anyway), then I might prefer that.
Jimmy Connors
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“That's a fair point, and if we had the option of no new HMs and only one HM going this week (which could be Aaron, who's out anyway), then I might prefer that.”

I agree. I would prefer that too.
Dixon
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“I feel the lack of live feed means we can't properly get to know the Hm's and see them as full human beings rather than stereotypes or one-dimensional characters. This lack of connection means we can't empathise or assess the HM's correctly.
I also feel the show concentrates too much on conflict and creating divides. The fun factor is gone and also really nasty people have been cast the last few years, some even winning and that puts people off.We see the editing hide the behaviour of some and vilify others unfairly.Bots is a disgrace the way it maligns HM's.Let the Hm's interact naturally and stop casting fake actresses and actors,e.g Eileen we want real people.”



You made some excellent points there!

Without live feed there is no way I would have been a big supporter of Imogen during BB7.
hownwbrowncow
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I think there was a lot wrong with the people they put in, though the show has been a problem too.

The thought of any of the current HMs winning £150,000 is sickening.”

Very OTT. None of them are bad people (unlike last year) .
Scarlett Berry
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow:
“Very OTT. None of them are bad people (unlike last year) .”

Sweet baby Jebus..that lot were really horrendous. Even thinking back makes me agitated.

I like none of them..at a push I felt desperately sorry for Chris, Ashleigh and the lad they called Christmas...all the rest were foul and as for the winner...I'd prefer to hold my counsel at the risk of getting a ban. Suffice it to say. I LOATHED her. How she won...
Veri
28-05-2015
Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow:
“Very OTT. None of them are bad people (unlike last year) .”

Whether some of the are bad people or not is debatable; some of their behaviour has certainly been bad. But in any case the thought of any of them winning £150,000 is sickening. It's an absurdly large amount of money for people who have not done anything to deserve it. £100,000 was already bad enough. The extra amount they're going to give this year's winner is as much as the bb13 winner got in total.
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