if this format was working i think many of us would accept it but it clearly isn't and this year its in big trouble

Couldn't you find a better video or photo to post? That's just crap.

I complain about Big Brother because I am not happy with what Channel 5 have done to it as I spent a majority of my summers between 2004 and 2010 watching Big Brother and the Live Feed so it was part of my teenage years.

I would let it go but why should I? It's my life, not yours.

According to some people on this forum the show isn't in trouble at all and is doing just perfectly.

Good luck with that. You might want to put it in writing Moaning on a forum might not get things changed to your liking.

Democratic Society. Complain to the powers that be. Perhaps they will listen to you and rechange the format they are currently using. I mean it, if the ratings are as low as they are, perhaps they will listen to you & your suggestions on how they might improve the show,

Frow isn't happy with the show right now and it is in big trouble thats why this 'massive twist' is going ahead last minute

I know the people at Channel 5 won't listen as other people have complained and nothing been done (Look at the state of the show now) but I will continue to voice my opinion. I wouldn't want the show to go back to basics like BB1/BB2 but it needs to change from the trash it has become, this is NOT Big Brother.

This is a forum Scarlett and you can't exactly stop people from having an opinion, it would be pointless place to come if was all "OMG I LOVE THIS SHOW" or "OMG THE PRODUCERS ARE LIKE THE BEST PRODUCERS EVER!!!" . If you want non-stop positivity then I suggest another forum like TIBB where it's all happiness all the time.

Not what I've seen..

[quote=hmeister;78276065]I know the people at Channel 5 won't listen as other people have complained and nothing been done (Look at the state of the show now) but I will continue to voice my opinion.

This is a forum Scarlett and you can't exactly stop people from having an opinion, it would be pointless place to come if was all "OMG I LOVE THIS SHOW" or "OMG THE PRODUCERS ARE LIKE THE BEST PRODUCERS EVER!!!" . If you want non-stop positivity then I suggest another forum like TIBB where it's all happiness all the time.[/QUOTE]

Don't even attempt to patronise me about what a forum is. You immediately loose all credibility with smart ar*ed comments like that.

When have I ever, EVER suggested that I want to stop people from having an opinion. When...please point it out to me & back up, your rather statements with fact please.

Moreover, I have never ever requested non stop positivity...it was a post about acceptance of a show or a non acceptance. Moreover, enough with the shouting .. it's uncalled for and very unbecoming.

You seem to be against people moaning about Big Brother which people have been doing since the forum launched. People would even moan back in the early days of BB1, just look back on old threads.

I don't watch the New BB and haven't invested in a civilian series since BB11 but surely if people want to complain then you accept that or stop reading their posts. It's easy

I'm just giving some examples of what thread titles are like over at TIBB.

Because there is no point.

I am so not against anyone having an opinion. My post was about accepting that BB as we knew it was long gone & embracing the new format.

With respect hmeister, you jumped on the bandwagon and down my neck without fully understanding or correctly reading my post or what I was saying. It's so apparent in you response

BIB explains everything.

Oh and you quoting TIBB is totally irrelevant to me.

Okay, I have quite complex thoughts about this.

I will be completely open about the fact that in the last couple of years (last year especially) I haven't been especially happy with the way that Big Brother has gone. My opinion is irrelevant to how it was back in the C4 days - I actually only started watching around 2008, which is commonly regarded as being past the golden age, and I've watched at least some of every series since. I've seen quite a bit of BB1 on YouTube and I love it, although I realise that it can never go back to how it was because regardless of what the producers do, the Housemates are more aware of the cameras now.

I think it is important to be vocal about what you dislike about the series, because if you're not clear about that how will the producers know? Having said that, I try to be very fair in my criticism of the series - it annoys me when people complain about everything, so I try to be clear on here when I'm enjoying something. I actually never watched Live Feed so I'm not one of those people who constantly complains about that, though I would support the idea of bringing it back because I think that many viewers would really enjoy it, and it would increase the popularity of the series hugely.

This series I have been enjoying a lot, though there are still things that I'm not enjoying. I find the producer interference stifling, though not as stifling as last year. Last year I stopped watching about halfway through, just because I was no longer enjoying it at all. This year, although the twists are still frustrating, the editing is better and they have the best selection of Housemates there has been in years. I'm genuinely really interested in the friendships between them, which is more than can be said last year. I'm dreading this week's quadruple eviction, mainly because I don't see why it's necessary at all - the dynamic in the House is interesting enough without having to do that. However, I think that it won't necessarily be the end of the series - if it carries on how it's going, it could still be one that we remember fondly.

Overall, I think that I disagree with the 'accept it or stop watching' mentality; I will stop watching if it gets bad enough for me not to enjoy it - I have a couple of issues with this series, but so far they aren't severe enough for me to switch off. Maybe this will change, last year I was pushed not to watch anymore. However, I will say that no matter how bad Big Brother gets, I will always give it another chance the following year. I think it has a really good format and although declined ratings will take a long time to build up again, this is something that can be achieved with a lot of perseverance. I think that at the moment, the best way to do that is for the producers to consider what Big Brother is about. If the show is about a group of people in a House together, show us a group of people in a House together. Yes, manipulate their surroundings and intervene at times to spice things up if you need to - I don't mind them doing that as it provides a bit of variation, what I mind is when it gets to the stage where it seems that the producers are overstepping the mark, trying to completely dominate the relationships between Housemates and/or force a certain result in evictions. It frustrates me that they're still doing this, but I take some comfort from the fact that it is nowhere near as bad as it was last year, and if it has improved this much, there is room for it to improve in the future.

I don't care how it was in the past, I care about whether I'm getting what I want from it now. I watch Big Brother for the simple reason that I absolutely love observing people and how they react with one another. If the focus of a series is on that, I will be happy. If, as happened a lot last year, there is so much emphasis on changes to the format that all dynamics between the Housemates are lost in the edit, that is something I will object to.

I agree OP. I resisted the 'new' version of Big Brother for a while, but I'm finding myself at a point where I'm enjoying all the twists. It's about creating an entertaining TV show, it doesn't just have to be about 'saving your faves'.

I agree with you to a certain extent Scarlett, but if we want a moan, we will have one, you won't stop us. Completely agree about the live feed anoraks, though. That live feed thread has been active on here for SIX YEARS! Who gives a toss about sodding live feed? Get out more, you saddos!

"Never be condescending and tell you to stop watching, but,....accept the new version or tune out."

That is what the OP says, right?

Is it me, or....

Excellent thread and people really do need to accept that it is what it is.

Endlessly moaning about live feed and crying because it isn't what you want it to be is just pointless.

If it's not your thing anymore, then simply stop watching. Moaning on here is like talking at the television. It won't change a thing.

Channel 5 have signed up for three more years of it, so they must be pretty happy with the way it's been going for them, despite the people on here who are convinced that they know better.

Well, in fairness I think they've listened to the viewers a bit. They haven't stopped all the interference, but it is much toned down from how it was last year, which is a good thing.