Yes.
Joel was clearly uncomfortable with it. It went too far.
Joel was clearly uncomfortable with it. It went too far.
Results:Was Aaron's removal justified?
Yes
162 (60.45%)
No
106 (39.55%)
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Now that we've all seen the incident in question, do we agree with Aaron's removal?
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No he shouldn't. And I doubt he would have gone so far had the others not egged him on. I don't feel Joel's DR speech was genuine either. Harriet was really encouraging him, she even said about flashing Joel again before going to the DR.
The thing is. Like in bbbots they said it could be banter but at the end of the day even in banter if the person says no they have every right to go to the police and that person could get into serious trouble. it's like rape the girl may say stop in a funny way but she can still go to the police it really depends on the person.
Originally Posted by JayUK69:
“No he shouldn't. And I doubt he would have gone so far had the others not egged him on. I don't feel Joel's DR speech was genuine either. Harriet was really encouraging him, she even said about flashing Joel again before going to the DR.”
“No he shouldn't. And I doubt he would have gone so far had the others not egged him on. I don't feel Joel's DR speech was genuine either. Harriet was really encouraging him, she even said about flashing Joel again before going to the DR.”
Would you say the same for a male doing it to a female?
I'm sure Harriet wouldn't have been pissing herself if one or the lads did the exact same thing and I'm almost as sure the other lads would have sat there laughing either.
His behaviour was completely unacceptable. Joel repeatedly told him to stop but Aaron kept on going. It was disgusting how other housemates, such as Harriet, were egging Aaron on. Like others have pointed out, had it been a man acting that way towards a woman he would have been removed from the house straight away. It was the right decision in my opinion.
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Would you say the same for a male doing it to a female?
I'm sure Harriet wouldn't have been pissing herself if one or the lads did the exact same thing and I'm almost as sure the other lads would have sat there laughing either.”
“Would you say the same for a male doing it to a female?
I'm sure Harriet wouldn't have been pissing herself if one or the lads did the exact same thing and I'm almost as sure the other lads would have sat there laughing either.”
I agree. It's okay for the others to find it hilarious, none of them were in the firing line.
all these "but if he did it to a woman"
but the difference being a man can fend for themselves. as a man no other person fights my battles for me
but the difference being a man can fend for themselves. as a man no other person fights my battles for me
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Would you say the same for a male doing it to a female?
I'm sure Harriet wouldn't have been pissing herself if one or the lads did the exact same thing and I'm almost as sure the other lads would have sat there laughing either.”
“Would you say the same for a male doing it to a female?
I'm sure Harriet wouldn't have been pissing herself if one or the lads did the exact same thing and I'm almost as sure the other lads would have sat there laughing either.”
If it was the same scenario, too much drink, joking around, being egged on, then yes I would say the same. Even if it was female on male, female on female.
It was vastly inappropriate yes, however a formal warning should have been given first.
Big Brother usually loses one person a week. This week, as a result of an internal email sent Tuesday morning from Ben Frow (the head of Channel 5) saying he wasn't happy with the current ratings or housemates, they are losing four. They are also, however, gaining four which means they are not losing one housemate overall as they usually do.
As a result, they were desperate for a reason to remove a housemate somewhere in the mix. They called Joel in, encouraged him to express his discomfort, then used this to remove Aaron in time for Friday's live show.
Big Brother usually loses one person a week. This week, as a result of an internal email sent Tuesday morning from Ben Frow (the head of Channel 5) saying he wasn't happy with the current ratings or housemates, they are losing four. They are also, however, gaining four which means they are not losing one housemate overall as they usually do.
As a result, they were desperate for a reason to remove a housemate somewhere in the mix. They called Joel in, encouraged him to express his discomfort, then used this to remove Aaron in time for Friday's live show.
I think maybe they should have just given him a warning, and ordered the other housemates to keep track of how much he drinks. 
I couldn't stand the guy but I think a serious warning, should've been adequate. It's obvious, they were looking for an excuse to get another one out.
Yes, agree that he had to be removed. All the housemates know beforehand what is acceptable and unacceptable behaviour.
Originally Posted by Stellen11:
“Yes. It wasn't funny and joel didn't know where to put himself. Aaron was acting like a sexual predator.”
“Yes. It wasn't funny and joel didn't know where to put himself. Aaron was acting like a sexual predator.”
Joel could have 'put himself' in the DR. He could have raised his concerns immediately with BB but only went to the DR after BB had called Aaron. He could also have been more assertive with Aaron but imo, wanted to remain on the 'good' side of HMs who were laughing at Aaron's antics. Whilst Aaron's behaviour was embarrassing and uncomfortable to watch, I think a warning would have sufficed. He said he had had a lot to drink (doesn't excuse him) but BB could have intervened earlier.
Originally Posted by pagingmrherman:
“The warning was enough. There has been nudity before and no one was ever been removed for it. Joel made a bigger deal out of it than it needed to be.”
“The warning was enough. There has been nudity before and no one was ever been removed for it. Joel made a bigger deal out of it than it needed to be.”
Joel was being harassed in a very nasty way by a very unpleasant individual. If anything aaron should have been removed more quickly.
Originally Posted by I'm-a-pain:
“Not sticking up for Aaron cos I don't much like him, but I totally blame BB. They should've stopped it way before it got that far, and then a severe warning would've been the appropriate action. Why didn't they call Aaron to the diary Room earlier?
But as it DID go that far, and bearing in mind if it had been a straight guy harassing a girl it would've been shocking, I think the removal was appropriate. But BB COULD have stopped it.
xx”
“Not sticking up for Aaron cos I don't much like him, but I totally blame BB. They should've stopped it way before it got that far, and then a severe warning would've been the appropriate action. Why didn't they call Aaron to the diary Room earlier?
But as it DID go that far, and bearing in mind if it had been a straight guy harassing a girl it would've been shocking, I think the removal was appropriate. But BB COULD have stopped it.
xx”
Thanks you saved me a post. That's exactly what I was going to say.
Originally Posted by Dr. Claw:
“all these "but if he did it to a woman"
but the difference being a man can fend for themselves. as a man no other person fights my battles for me”
“all these "but if he did it to a woman"
but the difference being a man can fend for themselves. as a man no other person fights my battles for me”
Grrr me man grrrr.
I hate him but he should of only got a warning really and told sternly to stay away from Joel.
His high pitched plea at the end when he was kicked out was the funniest thing I've ever seen
His high pitched plea at the end when he was kicked out was the funniest thing I've ever seen
Originally Posted by pugamo:
“No, I am gutted he is out, Joel was laughing at Aaron and walking past him on purpose egging him on and then complained to BB so people wouldn't think he is gay
I liked Joel but I will vote him out as soon as possible now ”
“No, I am gutted he is out, Joel was laughing at Aaron and walking past him on purpose egging him on and then complained to BB so people wouldn't think he is gay
I liked Joel but I will vote him out as soon as possible now ”
I didn't see Joel egging him on. Aaron was there every time Joel turned round, exposing himself. He was asked to stop and did not. He could be arrested for that behaviour outside. How Joel can be held responsible for the appalling behaviour of Aaron I just don't know.
Originally Posted by Dr. Claw:
“all these "but if he did it to a woman"
but the difference being a man can fend for themselves. as a man no other person fights my battles for me”
“all these "but if he did it to a woman"
but the difference being a man can fend for themselves. as a man no other person fights my battles for me”
Joel doesn't fit the stereotype, in my opinion.
I voted yes.
No means no, regardless of gender or sexual orientation.
Originally Posted by chelle6:
“It is regrettable but yes, they are given clear rules when entering the house and he broke the rules. If it was a man and a 19 year old girl we'd be disgusted. Joel was very uncomfortable it was unacceptable.”
“It is regrettable but yes, they are given clear rules when entering the house and he broke the rules. If it was a man and a 19 year old girl we'd be disgusted. Joel was very uncomfortable it was unacceptable.”
This ^.
I also agree with the opinion that BB should have stepped in before it escalated to the extent that it eventually did.
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