Originally Posted by JH84:
“Whether Joel was making his feelings obvious or not to everyone else, how many times did he say 'NO'? And even after Joel kept saying no, and moving away from Aaron repeatedly with Aaron going after him, did Aaron not try to rub up (whilst being completely naked) against Joel? That is termed as sexual harrassment. There are no excuses for it. If someone is repeatedly saying no, whether it is in a mild mannered way or aggressively, you stop.”
But there was more to it than that. Joel wasn't just saying "no"; it wasn't always Aaron going after him. At one point at least Joel chased Aaron; there was pillow fighting; and so on. I'm not saying any of that makes Aaron's behaviour ok, but there was room for misunderstanding, and it wasn't only Aaron who misunderstood.
Remember that we're seeing it already knowing it got Aaron thrown out. That can cause us to notice different things, or give them different significance, then if we watched without knowing how it would end.
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“For all those people making excuses for Aaron saying Joel should have been more firm. No, the responsibility lies with Aaron to stop. Joel should not have even needed to say no more than once. And Joel is not the type to speak aggressively. I am not a fan of his one bit and I think he can be a right little b*tch, so not biased, but even when he had that little argument with Jade, his voice was pretty low.”
Do you think only shouting counts? Joel's manner of speaking was quite vehement with Jade nonetheless, or remember how he was in the debates.
Anyway, of course Aaron is responsible for his behaviour. I don't think there are many (if any) who think otherwise.