The second half of your sentence is what I feel was the most likely scenario.

I just found his reaction in the DR bizarre.
At this point Joel would have known that (his supposed friend) Aaron had gotten the message loud and clear not to behave like that anymore towards him yet he acted like he was also on trial, desperately trying to distance himself from the bedroom hijinks. Almost like he threw Aaron to the wolves to avoid a stain on his character.
You would think as they were pals he would say it was just a bit of fun that perhaps got out of hand but no... he went straight for the jugular and signed his death warrant
Nothing to do with me Your Honor, send him to the gallows !!!

But there was more to it than that. Joel wasn't just saying "no"; it wasn't always Aaron going after him. At one point at least Joel chased Aaron; there was pillow fighting; and so on. I'm not saying any of that makes Aaron's behaviour ok, but there was room for misunderstanding, and it wasn't only Aaron who misunderstood.

Remember that we're seeing it already knowing it got Aaron thrown out. That can cause us to notice different things, or give them different significance, then if we watched without knowing how it would end.


Do you think only shouting counts? Joel's manner of speaking was quite vehement with Jade nonetheless, or remember how he was in the debates.

Anyway, of course Aaron is responsible for his behaviour. I don't think there are many (if any) who think otherwise.

I think that at first it was a lot easier to see it as just Aaron messing around in fun and Nick not much minding and even joining in. For instance, after the first thing we see Aaron do, Joel chases him back to his bed and does an air kick at his retreating rear.

But Aaron goes on and on, and by the time Aaron says "look at you scratching your nipple" and Nick replies, with some anger or irritation and admonishing pointing, "I wasn't scratching my nipple; I was scratching my chest", the atmosphere is much more uncomfortable, though some of the other HMs are still laughing. Yet even then Joel throws a pillow at him, which could seem to be participating in play; and he laughed at some things after that.

But it was late at night; the HMs who were most wake and active were laughing; they may just not have picked up on the change soon enough. And while I think BB should have stepped in earlier, I think BB came in about as quickly as they usually do, once things reach a point where it's clearly called for.


Joel wasn't in the bed when Aaron climbed in, however.

Do you seriously expect anyone to give this response any credibility.?

His action was appropriate, I am surprised no other HMs felt uncomfortable

What's supposed to be the problem with it? Or are you just making a dig at me personally?

It just sounds so persuasively biased

What do you think is biased about it?

It's too late for me to post more now (I should have gone to sleep hours ago), but I'd still like to know what you think the problem with it is, and I may have time to reply tomorrow.

Joel didn't know how to deal with it and I felt sorry for him.

I now feel sorry for Aaron but no more than all those who will be kicked out tonight.

Totally agree!

People love to play the part of the victim, be it on BB or in real life.
Now it's Joels turn to play the part.

Though as the saying goes - if you don't want someone to play the victim, then don't treat them like shite in the first place.

I can't stand Joel but he was in no way to blame for what happened.

It does indeed.

Joel looked like he was really enjoying it too, he was just embarrassed about being shown enjoying himself on national TV.