for winning the task you tough little thing

Yep, credit where credit's due. I was surprised that Kieran didn't walk that, even if he is heavier than the other two.

I think Kieran gave it to her.

You'd be surprised. I once had a similar competition with a group of friends, except we only held on with one hand, with the other hand gripping the wrist, and elbows bent. They were all bigger and stronger than me but I won hands down. I felt like I could have held on indefinitely. I was about 9 stone, p*ssed wet through.

Oh you old spoil sport. I want Kieran to at least win some brownie point around here, even if it's giving into Harriet

Well done to her on this one. But its a combination of how heavy you are and sheer will power just hanging there.

Ladies and there chocolate hey

Her motivation she said.

Allow me. Kieran's obviously a nice guy; well aware of his surroundings, well behaved, helpful to his housemates. My only gripe would be his seemingly puerile "have you fingered her yet?" sense of humour, but I think if Danny just shrugged it off with a jovial "F*ck off, you d*ck" that would be the end of it. I think the joke is that he's pretending to be childish, but Danny takes him at face value and responds in kind.

Did he say those words?

"Have you fingered her yet?" ? No, I just meant that type of humour. Like a virgin schoolboy ribbing one of his mates for getting a girlfriend.

Well it's in your head, isn't it? Not theirs

Huh? Kieran ribs Danny on a daily basis about his relationship with Sarah. He asks people "Would you sh*g so-and-so?" and then giggles about it. I'm not imagining it. What I'm saying is, perhaps he's aware enough and mature enough to recognise the inherent childishness in that line of questioning, and so does it as a form of off-colour humour, not really endorsing that kind of thought, but parodying it.

I'm not sure I'm explaining this very well.

Kieron does indeed rib Danny..........

= Kieron should be evicted

It'll be a good memory for Harriet to take with her tonight.

Make your mind up.

Twisting stuff doesn't change anything

Have you been on the booze?

Have you been on the drugs?

I thought perhaps my post weren't clear enough, but I can make no sense of yours anymore. I like Kieran, and I was attempting to award him a brownie point is all. I'll leave you be. Night night, Cat.

No you weren't.

Look right back to your first reply to me and where I first took exception to your 'fingering' in relation to Kieran

this is getting heavy

Okay. How on Earth do you know what I meant better than I do? And how am I supposed to know where you took offense?

Take it how you wish.

Please let me know if I'm talking out of my anus here!

This conversation had me cracking up - it's definitely not you. You were perfectly clear.

Oh good, I did wonder. So, without wishing to hijack this thread completely (sorry god), do you think Kieran's humour is 'postmodern' or just puerile?

Puerile, misogynistic, and frequently offensive.