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#26 |
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its big brothers fault for over reacting and not giving aaron a warning instead. this series is now falling aprt and will be unwatchable if the most interesting housemates are kicked out
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As I've said before, if Joel can't cope with a bit of fun, he isn't mature enough to be in Big Brother.
Guess if a woman can't stand getting attacked by a sex pest it's her fault to. It wasn't fun at all. People like Aaron just give homophobes the ammo they need as a member of the LGBT community it's hard enough for people who do not have what is thought of as a "normal" sexuality as it is without people like Aaron proving idiots points for them. If a woman did it to a man I would think the same get her removed. |
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I'm not sure that I like Joel, but he has provided me with a few laugh-out-loud moments and comes out with a few corkers, intentionally or otherwise, so no, I wouldn't be voting him out (if he were up, or were I of a mind to vote).
Aaron's actions are his own, as are BB's. |
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As I've said before, if Joel can't cope with a bit of fun, he isn't mature enough to be in Big Brother.
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Why would he have lost his temper because he felt uncomfortable? There is no logical reason to connect the two emotions. Some people can control their feelings.
Aaron cannot control himself. Aaron got what he deserved. He's gone and that's that. I hate to be touched at all even cuddling with someone I am close to I hate but I would act even more uncomfortable than Joel did but have done nothing. |
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Victim blaming again.
Guess if a woman can't stand getting attacked by a sex pest it's her fault to. It wasn't fun at all. People like Aaron just give homophobes the ammo they need as a member of the LGBT community it's hard enough for people who do not have what is thought of as a "normal" sexuality as it is without people like Aaron proving idiots points for them. If a woman did it to a man I would think the same get her removed. All blown way out of proportion. |
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That wasn't fun - it was just plain nasty filth.
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Joel isn't to blame for Aaron's creepiness.
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its big brothers fault for over reacting and not giving aaron a warning instead. this series is now falling aprt and will be unwatchable if the most interesting housemates are kicked out
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Exaggerating the situation doesn't help your case. It merely opens you up to ridicule. I think it best that you watch the footage again, watch the reactions of everyone in the room - none of whom saw Aaron as a "sex pest" - and regard it as a bit of fun. Yes, Aaron took it too far, but he was being egged on. Joel was under no threat at all. Nor did he get angry.
All blown way out of proportion. Then they blaim the other person for having no sense of humour or being a prude rapes have happened this way. |
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rapes have happened this way.
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The best way to redress the injustice on Aaron is to get Joel out of the house.
I have various views on Joel, but the one I'm leaning towards is that he is playing a rather devious and unpleasant game. He spent time with Aaron, supposedly befriending him, spending time in the bath with him, enjoying banter, and then plays the "uncomfortable" victim in the diary room. Whatever the case, at best he is just a nasty, unbalanced individual. Vote him out at the first opportunity. |
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Ultimately I do blame BB, but Joel and his acting performance in the diary room contributed to the situation. If Joel had really felt so uncomfortable, he would have lost his temper with Aaron. Instead his reactions were too controlled in the bedroom.
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As I've said before, if Joel can't cope with a bit of fun, he isn't mature enough to be in Big Brother.
Aarons constant crying, petulance and attention seeking behaviour was immature- perhaps it is him that isn't mature enough to be in Big Brother. |
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I think wallster is a troll! Quote:
Blame BB, not Joel.
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Exaggerating the situation doesn't help your case. It merely opens you up to ridicule. I think it best that you watch the footage again, watch the reactions of everyone in the room - none of whom saw Aaron as a "sex pest" - and regard it as a bit of fun. Yes, Aaron took it too far, but he was being egged on. Joel was under no threat at all. Nor did he get angry.
All blown way out of proportion. And you are now in possession of a superpower that makes you capable of knowing the thoughts of others across distance and time...cool. |
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I think wallster is a troll!
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I can't stand Joel and think he's a particularly nasty piece of work but Aaron was definitely out of order on this occasion, Joel repeatedly asked him to stop, it was sexual harassment writ large.
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Aaron is to blame, not BB.
But BB took advantage of the situation. Aaron shouldn't have been removed. |
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I have only noticed his name sinse Aaron got evivted so either it is a troll or is Aaron or knows him.
Try again James Frederick
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Can't see this as Joel's fault at all.
Ultimately Aaron has to be responsible for his actions. In second place is Big Brother who should have intervened early with a warning and Honorable mention goes to those housemate that Egged Aaron on |
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Joel made it clear in week one he was straight and had no interest in flirting with Aaron, after that he was friendly with him, but Aron continued to flirt with him and tease him. I thought he was close to crossing the line the day before when he was teasing Joel about being a gay. This is a nineteen year old virgin, inexperienced and clearly uncomfortable with Aaron pestering him.
What part if 'I'm straight did Aaron not understand, or choose to ignore. |
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For his actions, yes.
But BB took advantage of the situation. Aaron shouldn't have been removed. |
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Joel obviously looked uncomfortable and embarrassed by Aaron's behaviour but I don't think Aaron or the other hms realised how inappropriate it all was. They were all sniggering and egging Aaron on. I don't think Aaron knew he was doing anything other than having a joke. I think Aaron should have got a formal warning and told on no uncertain terms that his behaviour was unacceptable and he would be monitored and if there were any future misconduct he is out.
I feel that Aaron behaves badly but he should have been given another chance. Joel should no way be blamed for Aaron's exit. |
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It was not acceptable. Why shouldn't he of been removed?
BB should have waited until the morning before chatting with both Joel and Aaron and making their decision. They had both been on the drink. |
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