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It's in a small village called Ynyswen in the Rhonnda Cynon Taff County in South Wales.
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Completely off topic but how do you pronounce Cynon? I run a mail order / fulfillment company and I often see it on addresses. Just out of interest! Is it like 'Sin-on'? Been bugging me for years
![]() C is always "hard" in Welsh, y is (almost always) pronounced roughly "uh". The double-d in Rhondda is a bit like a hard "th" (like the start of "this", rather than "think"), but you probably knew that already.
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Kunnon. Well, close enough for a Sais
C is always "hard" in Welsh, y is (almost always) pronounced roughly "uh". The double-d in Rhondda is a bit like a hard "th" (like the start of "this", rather than "think"), but you probably knew that already.
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A question about 800mhz/VOLTE
Can anyone clarify the situation regarding Three having to send an update to handsets in order for them to access the 800mhz and/or VOLTE? The reason being is that I've imported a Note 5 which does have all the 4g bands, but am wondering if i'll have to wait for Three to send an update, and if that's the case, will they even send one as the Note 5 isn't officially available in the UK?
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Can anyone clarify the situation regarding Three having to send an update to handsets in order for them to access the 800mhz and/or VOLTE? The reason being is that I've imported a Note 5 which does have all the 4g bands, but am wondering if i'll have to wait for Three to send an update, and if that's the case, will they even send one as the Note 5 isn't officially available in the UK?
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Can anyone clarify the situation regarding Three having to send an update to handsets in order for them to access the 800mhz and/or VOLTE? The reason being is that I've imported a Note 5 which does have all the 4g bands, but am wondering if i'll have to wait for Three to send an update, and if that's the case, will they even send one as the Note 5 isn't officially available in the UK?
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So does that mean he has no chance then?
You are so cruel...
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To be more succinct, the way Three do it, it will only work on the Note 5 when you have Three UK firmware, until then, you have no chance (so, you have no chance).
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That reminds me, the Note 5 isn't even available to purchase in the UK so it's never gonna receive any sort of Three firmware anyway. I'd forgotten about that, damn Samsung and their stupid regional messing about.
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Yup, that was my point, there will (most likely) never be a Note 5 firmware that will allow it.
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Although..I do recall that when Three were originally rolling out 4g they said the same thing about devices needing an update to get it, yet the Note 5 I have DOES work on 4g but presumably only the 1800mhz frequency at the moment. So maybe there is still hope!
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Although..I do recall that when Three were originally rolling out 4g they said the same thing about devices needing an update to get it, yet the Note 5 I have DOES work on 4g but presumably only the 1800mhz frequency at the moment. So maybe there is still hope!
If it remains that you need VoLTE to use 800Mhz then you won't get to use it (you also won't get WifiCalling when it arrives) under the current rules. |
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Damn this is as I feared! Now I wish I'd gone for a dual sim version! Thanks for the responses.
Typical of me. Totally pointless posts!!! Ask anyone here.
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Three don't have the same control over normal 1800Mhz 4G, if your handset works on the frequency it will work, if they allow 800Mhz for normal use with CSFB (unlikely) then you should get use of it.
If it remains that you need VoLTE to use 800Mhz then you won't get to use it (you also won't get WifiCalling when it arrives) under the current rules. http://editorsean.com/articles/three...ing-downloads/ |
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I guess I'll have to just wait and see. According to one user, he has been able to use the 800mhz band without any update from Three, so hopefully this will he the case for everyone. However, it's not easy to actually know which band you're on.
http://editorsean.com/articles/three...ing-downloads/ They might well be using 800Mhz with CSFB in Ireland allowing normal use of 800Mhz, in the UK it is only available in conjunction with SuperVoice (VoLTE). Different country, different network, different policies... |
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I'm confused about this proposed InTouch app enabling 800MHz. Will it only work when the app is open? Will opening the app when in an 800MHz area make you connect to it?
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I'm confused about this proposed InTouch app enabling 800MHz. Will it only work when the app is open? Will opening the app when in an 800MHz area make you connect to it?
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Power cut here and 800MHz is keeping me online
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I'm confused about this proposed InTouch app enabling 800MHz. Will it only work when the app is open? Will opening the app when in an 800MHz area make you connect to it?
Who knows how well it will, or does, work. We don't have it, so maybe that suggests it isn't working reliably. |
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They might well be using 800Mhz with CSFB in Ireland allowing normal use of 800Mhz
All it would do is add a bit of capacity. |
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I don't see how that would work. You would have to run it at such a low power to keep it within 3G coverage.
All it would do is add a bit of capacity. That's a bit like saying Vodafone South Africa offers a certain service or product so I'm sure I will also get it on Vodafone UK. |
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I'm not sure what a user on Three IE has to do with what is happening on Three UK.
They might well be using 800Mhz with CSFB in Ireland allowing normal use of 800Mhz, in the UK it is only available in conjunction with SuperVoice (VoLTE). Different country, different network, different policies... I'm still unsure about the whole thing - from testing I've certainly been able to get 4g in places where I'd expect the 800mhz band is used, such as some villages, so I need to do some more testing to make sure. I'd be very annoyed if it does require an update to work - it's not right that Three can basically choose which customers can access this, especially as they stated over a year ago that 4g would be available in my area by the end of 2014 and there's still no sign of it! |
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Oh I didn't spot that they weren't in the UK.
I'm still unsure about the whole thing - from testing I've certainly been able to get 4g in places where I'd expect the 800mhz band is used, such as some villages, so I need to do some more testing to make sure. I'd be very annoyed if it does require an update to work - it's not right that Three can basically choose which customers can access this, especially as they stated over a year ago that 4g would be available in my area by the end of 2014 and there's still no sign of it! Other than for iPhone, all the networks only offer these services to their own firmware handsets, it's not only Three than do it. |
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Three's 4G rollout promises crashed and burned many months ago, so any promises they made about when it would arrive have been broken. Having said that, they do have 1800Mhz 4G in some strange small places while there are huge non-4G areas in major urban areas.
Other than for iPhone, all the networks only offer these services to their own firmware handsets, it's not only Three than do it. |
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Seems strange to me - I've got a bt mobile sim that works on all 4g networks with a phone not running special firmware, and my wife's unbranded phone works on Vodafone 4g no problem - as far as I can see it's only Three that restrict customers
What should have happen is that everyone is allowed on 800mhz and then if your phone didn't do VoLTE then it just wouldn't do that but still allowing you to use 800mhz for data only. Then they should have had VoLTE updates available for all phones (Branded and unbranded) from day one. Not launch something and only then go about working on updates. A cover-all app should have been perfected way before launch that allowed any and every phone to do VoLTE via the app until a specific update was made available for any given phone. How and in what way this 800mhz roll-out can in any way be described as 'Making It Better". I don't know. |
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C is always "hard" in Welsh, y is (almost always) pronounced roughly "uh". The double-d in Rhondda is a bit like a hard "th" (like the start of "this", rather than "think"), but you probably knew that already.
