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Old 23-11-2015, 20:05
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I doubt it, or the people who flashed s5's to Three branding still wouldn't get the feature (which they do).
But the make and model can be extracted from the IMEI.
They could use this to filter them.
Also firmware as well.
If IMEI model = S5 and firmware = Three then allow.
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Old 23-11-2015, 20:13
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But the make and model can be extracted from the IMEI.
They could use this to filter them.
Also firmware as well.
If IMEI model = S5 and firmware = Three then allow.
If you're speaking specifically about 800mhz and not VOLTE.
I'm currently in the process of trying to get VOLTE enabled on a note 3 (which is not ever going to be supported by 3) by modifying firmware files.
I have got as far as managing to connect to the 800mhz 4g signal. Surely therefore they cannot be restricting by IMEI because I definitely shouldn't be able to connect with my note 3 at all.
I'm continuing my work to see if I can get VOLTE functional.
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Old 23-11-2015, 20:25
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If you're speaking specifically about 800mhz and not VOLTE.
I'm currently in the process of trying to get VOLTE enabled on a note 3 (which is not ever going to be supported by 3) by modifying firmware files.
I have got as far as managing to connect to the 800mhz 4g signal. Surely therefore they cannot be restricting by IMEI because I definitely shouldn't be able to connect with my note 3 at all.
I'm continuing my work to see if I can get VOLTE functional.
Well done for getting 800 data!
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Old 23-11-2015, 20:30
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I've put a PAYG MBB SIM in a E5372 Mi-Fi but don't know if I'm on 800 or not. Signal seems no better than it would be with 1800.
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Old 23-11-2015, 20:49
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If you're speaking specifically about 800mhz and not VOLTE.
I'm currently in the process of trying to get VOLTE enabled on a note 3 (which is not ever going to be supported by 3) by modifying firmware files.
I have got as far as managing to connect to the 800mhz 4g signal. Surely therefore they cannot be restricting by IMEI because I definitely shouldn't be able to connect with my note 3 at all.
I'm continuing my work to see if I can get VOLTE functional.
Good point.
I will shut up.
Now I come to think of it RAN Man said there are several ways they can filter devices.
Can't remember what they were now.
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Old 23-11-2015, 20:58
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Put a phone SIM into my Huawei 5377 WIFI thing today and got 800MHz 4G. I guess the network validates it as a mobile data device and allows it to connect.

Even though 3G is virtually non existent here as soon as it picked up a weak signal it went back to 3G again. It was only on 800 if there was no other signal at all.

I wonder if they can set different network priorities for Phone and Data only devices?
I can't get on to 800MHz even with a mobile broadband SIM in a mifi device that 3 thinks is capable (the map changes to the 800 one when you type it in)
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Old 23-11-2015, 21:28
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Interesting reading on here over the last few days. Seems some people who should be able to get 800mhz data can't, and other people who shouldn't, can! It's all a right mess isn't it? Although I accept my note 5 will never be officially supported, I do now hold out some hope of at least being able to connect to the 800mhz frequency at some point. Having said that, I'm not all that convinced that this small amount of 800mhz is the panacea that I'm thinking it will be. In fact, I can't really complain about the network at all really, especially in terms of coverage, which for me is great. Although occasionally it slows down, this is quite rare. I have been thinking about switching, but have to be careful as the grass isn't always greener!
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Old 23-11-2015, 22:01
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I can't get on to 800MHz even with a mobile broadband SIM in a mifi device that 3 thinks is capable (the map changes to the 800 one when you type it in)
Don't forget that if the device gets even a sniff of 3G, it won't even consider going on to 800. It's seems to be setup like 2G is on other networks, a last resort signal.

I've got a pair of 860 MHz analogue headphones and they go nuts when it tries to connect to 800.
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Old 23-11-2015, 22:04
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Don't forget that if the device gets even a sniff of 3G, it won't even consider going on to 800. It's seems to be setup like 2G is on other networks, a last resort signal.

I've got a pair of 860 MHz analogue headphones and they go nuts when it tries to connect to 800.
I can force it to 800MHz 4G only, doing so means getting no service. Setting it to its default connects it to 3G
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Old 23-11-2015, 22:26
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My unlocked Samsung j5 with my 3 sim card was recieving 3/3+/4G for the last 5 months and switching between them constantly but all this last week its been on 4G constantly so Im presuming my nearby mast has been adjusted?

Just done a speedometer check on it and it was reading 24 bits download so that's up from 5-8
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Old 24-11-2015, 01:48
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Interesting, I have this phone too. My area is very poor and my signal comes from Oranges old 2G mast so full signal but no data. Can't win
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Old 24-11-2015, 07:47
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I can force my Mi-Fi to 4G only (and have) but not a specific band.

At least not via the standard interface, as there may be AT commands to do it - but that's a bit too much bother.
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Old 24-11-2015, 10:11
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I have a few times had my device been on very low signal 3G (and not be losing signal) and switch to 800MHz so I'm not sure if the priorities thing is completely accurate?
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Old 24-11-2015, 16:13
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If you're speaking specifically about 800mhz and not VOLTE.
I'm currently in the process of trying to get VOLTE enabled on a note 3 (which is not ever going to be supported by 3) by modifying firmware files.
I have got as far as managing to connect to the 800mhz 4g signal. Surely therefore they cannot be restricting by IMEI because I definitely shouldn't be able to connect with my note 3 at all.
I'm continuing my work to see if I can get VOLTE functional.
I'm watching your posts with interest as if you can work out all the settings/files needed then anyone can 'update' whatever phone they have and that annoying Three is a great incentive to do it!
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Old 24-11-2015, 16:19
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It's probably very little that needs changing.

Clearly Android has the ability to let people update settings over the air, without needing to have specific firmware, but for some reason nobody is using it yet.

It should mean that any Lollipop or Marshmallow phone should be easily configured to work with VoLTE, and indeed Wi-Fi calling.

There must be loads of networks all over the world wanting to ramp up their 4G power, and needing VoLTE to do so, so it's quite amazing it's not happening. It's not just down to Three, or EE or any other individual operator.
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Old 24-11-2015, 18:10
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The range on 800MHz truly is astonishing.

The 800MHz signal in my house that just will not die (literally works everywhere) at -120dBm down to -125dBm is from a mast at least 20 miles away.
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Old 24-11-2015, 19:15
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It's probably very little that needs changing.

Clearly Android has the ability to let people update settings over the air, without needing to have specific firmware, but for some reason nobody is using it yet.

It should mean that any Lollipop or Marshmallow phone should be easily configured to work with VoLTE, and indeed Wi-Fi calling.

There must be loads of networks all over the world wanting to ramp up their 4G power, and needing VoLTE to do so, so it's quite amazing it's not happening. It's not just down to Three, or EE or any other individual operator.
I'm amazed that the techno-bods out there haven't already seen what the important settings are and/or extra files are and posted it up for all. It's on some popular phones and so it would only take someone who knows about such things having a look to see what the changes are.
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Old 24-11-2015, 19:32
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If you're speaking specifically about 800mhz and not VOLTE.
I'm currently in the process of trying to get VOLTE enabled on a note 3 (which is not ever going to be supported by 3) by modifying firmware files.
I have got as far as managing to connect to the 800mhz 4g signal. Surely therefore they cannot be restricting by IMEI because I definitely shouldn't be able to connect with my note 3 at all.
I'm continuing my work to see if I can get VOLTE functional.
Perhaps you have said this if so apologies, but how did you get it onto the 800Mhz signal, if you don't mind sharing of course.
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Old 24-11-2015, 21:30
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Has anyone here done the LG G4 Three modification? Does the phone automatically switch to 800MHz with it or does it have to be forced.
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Old 24-11-2015, 22:24
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Got a text today stating that Shrewsbury was about to be activated for Super Voice - but didn't say when. Strange considering coverage checker says it already is and my device (not sure if it's a 6 or 6S on 3's systems) isn't yet supported!
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Old 24-11-2015, 22:33
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Got a text today stating that Shrewsbury was about to be activated for Super Voice - but didn't say when. Strange considering coverage checker says it already is and my device (not sure if it's a 6 or 6S on 3's systems) isn't yet supported!
The coverage checker is normally way behind reality not in front of it. My town got Three's 1800mhz 4G on Oct 24 for 4 days then off for 4 days and then back on permanently, but the coverage checker didn't show it till weeks later. Not a bad signal for 1800mhz as I even get 1 to 2 bars inside my house where I normally sit. (Who needs Super-pumping? )
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Old 24-11-2015, 23:01
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Has anyone here done the LG G4 Three modification? Does the phone automatically switch to 800MHz with it or does it have to be forced.
My LG G4 switches to 800 No problem.
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Old 24-11-2015, 23:44
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My LG G4 switches to 800 No problem.
Was this originally from Three though or one you modded?
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Old 25-11-2015, 00:16
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Was this originally from Three though or one you modded?
Originally from 3, I got the updates straight away when I got the phone a few weeks ago.
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Old 25-11-2015, 08:13
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When I put my postcode into the Three coverage checker it's saying:

"We're planning some network improvements in your area on 30 November 2015. We're really sorry if this affects your services. It's crucial work that will improve your network experience."

Does this mean 4G might be on it's way? The mast is 3G only at the moment.
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