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Old 08-12-2015, 19:09
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Great news. I've updated carrier settings but can't do the software update as I'm travelling. Sorry to ask the obvious question but in field test mode how do I know I'm on 800?
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:09
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Haha mine did the same. Shows 4g at first. Got all excited then drops down to 3G again
Isn't that this glitch that they are trying to fix and it appears not having much luck?
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:10
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Great news. I've updated carrier settings but can't do the software update as I'm travelling. Sorry to ask the obvious question but in field test mode how do I know I'm on 800?
Frequency band indicator will show 20. (in serving cell info).
1800 is 3.
2600 on other networks is 7.

EDIT: Oh, by the way, told you it would come with iOS 9.2!!!
Hahaha

Damn... could have had money on that!!!
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:13
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EDIT: Oh, by the way, told you it would come with iOS 9.2!!!
Hahaha

Damn... could have had money on that!!!
So many guesses one of them would be right!

Got 800 now at home, despite it saying excellent coverage I can get it properly in only one room and it just now hovers between the two everywhere else. 11mbps though on -120, not bad.
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:16
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Thanks. Still on 1800 at work but expected that as I get an OK signal. Be interesting at my parents house later as signal sucks there and they have a home signal box.
Yeah let us know how it goes.
By the way, you will have to turn the home signal box off as 3G is prioritised higher than 800.
You will also need to be somewhere there is no 3G or 4G1800 signal whatsoever to get 800.
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:18
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Frequency band indicator will show 20. (in serving cell info).
1800 is 3.
2600 on other networks is 7.

EDIT: Oh, by the way, told you it would come with iOS 9.2!!!
Hahaha

Damn... could have had money on that!!!
Very happy to be wrong (or for Three to be wrong)! Now I'll move on to complaining about priority and how it isn't as good as we all wanted!
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:20
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Which option shows frequency band indicator? Can't find it anywhere
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:26
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Hi

Ive taken a wander outside the house, now getting 4G where I didn't before.

Still falls back to 3G when making a call. Is that how its meant to work?

Thanks

Baz
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:27
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Is iOS 9.2 seperate from the carrier update?

I'm on 9.2 but no signal even though web site says it should be excellent.

Also my settings don't mention VoLTE just a 4g toggle.
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:35
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Is iOS 9.2 seperate from the carrier update?

I'm on 9.2 but no signal even though web site says it should be excellent.

Also my settings don't mention VoLTE just a 4g toggle.
Go to Settings-General-About. The Carrier Profile should be "Three 23.1" if not then it might come up with an update for it or you might have to wait for it to come through.
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:36
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So many guesses one of them would be right!

Got 800 now at home, despite it saying excellent coverage I can get it properly in only one room and it just now hovers between the two everywhere else. 11mbps though on -120, not bad.
Actually I was only guessing on the date (15th or today).
iTech and myself were having a small but friendly disagreement over whether it would come as part of 9.2.
Being normally wrong, I didn't expect to win that one!

I think with the Three 800 even if there's a small whiff of 2100 it switches back.
In other words there is no threshold set up. it will cling to even unusable 2100 if it's there?
Skippy was saying this is a glitch in the system they are trying to fix and he could be right but it seems that everyone who says they get some 4G800 and then it fades to 2100 actually has some 2100 available which is why that happens.

I think.... maybe.....
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:36
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Is iOS 9.2 seperate from the carrier update?

I'm on 9.2 but no signal even though web site says it should be excellent.

Also my settings don't mention VoLTE just a 4g toggle.
On EE I had to go to General > About to update the carrier setting. Went from 23.0 to 23.1
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:37
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Actually I was only guessing on the date (15th or today).
iTech and myself were having a small but friendly disagreement over whether it would come as part of 9.2.
Being normally wrong, I didn't expect to win that one!

I think with the Three 800 even if there's a small whiff of 2100 it switches back.
In other words there is no threshold set up. it will cling to even unusable 2100 if it's there?
Skippy was saying this is a glitch in the system they are trying to fix and he could be right but it seems that everyone who says they get some 4G800 and then it fades to 2100 actually has some 2100 available which is why that happens.

I think.... maybe.....
There's been a lot of maintenance round my way this last week and I seem to be able to go on 4g800 when there's 3g.
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:40
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Which option shows frequency band indicator? Can't find it anywhere
Make sure you have a 4G signal first (otherwise the right option won't be there. not saying you're daft but I've done that myself like a plonker! : )
Go into field test mode.
Go to serving cell info (I think that's the wording, I don't have 4G at the mo).
Frequency band indicator shows the band.
3 = 1800
7 = 2600
20 = 800
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:40
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I'm a donut. Didn't see that setting as I wasn't on 4g 🙄
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:40
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I'm a donut. Didn't see that setting as I wasn't on 4g 🙄
Hahahahahaha

See my previous post #3139 !!!

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Old 08-12-2015, 19:43
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Haha yeh just saw that 🙄
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:45
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I updated to 9.2, the carrier update didn't come with it. I had to go into Settings\General\About to trigger the carrier update.

So far so good, my entire house is covered in 800 and VoLTE works great. I used 333 to test, call connections are super fast. Screenshots and Speedtests:
Field Test: http://i.imgur.com/JDHe0Ia.png
Speed Test downstairs in my house while being on a call to 333: http://i.imgur.com/2ycUyuJ.png
Speed Test upstairs in my house immediately after, still 800: http://i.imgur.com/U9j5A4g.png

If you look in the distance, you can see the site that's serving me:
https://goo.gl/maps/89Y6VZurXD42

This site is just under a mile away from me in a straight line. There's an awful lot of things in between though, it's not exactly close and it's not a site that has ever served my house. To be downstairs in my house and get -110dBm from that site is incredible, I've got 3 much closer sites that can barely get into my house at all downstairs.

It doesn't look as if the 800 rollout is particularly dense, but it stretches damn far from every site that's broadcasting it that's for sure.

Oh and fyi, upstairs in my house I get -110dBm 1800 from 3 local sites of which I'm on the border of coverage for all of them. Speedtest is giving me 7 down and 4 up over 1800. So the way I see it, 800 is doing pretty well atm, I guess because no one is on it, yet.
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:48
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Shame you can't force 800 on an iPhone.
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:51
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Shame you can't force 800 on an iPhone.
Could stay connected to a phone call constantly lol. Didn't seem to want to switch to 3G when I tried, I don't know if it even can.
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Old 08-12-2015, 19:56
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I updated to 9.2, the carrier update didn't come with it. I had to go into Settings\General\About to trigger the carrier update.

So far so good, my entire house is covered in 800 and VoLTE works great. I used 333 to test, call connections are super fast. Screenshots and Speedtests:
Field Test: http://i.imgur.com/JDHe0Ia.png
Speed Test downstairs in my house while being on a call to 333: http://i.imgur.com/2ycUyuJ.png
Speed Test upstairs in my house immediately after, still 800: http://i.imgur.com/U9j5A4g.png

If you look in the distance, you can see the site that's serving me:
https://goo.gl/maps/89Y6VZurXD42

This site is just under a mile away from me in a straight line. There's an awful lot of things in between though, it's not exactly close and it's not a site that has ever served my house. To be downstairs in my house and get -110dBm from that site is incredible, I've got 3 much closer sites that can barely get into my house at all downstairs.

It doesn't look as if the 800 rollout is particularly dense, but it stretches damn far from every site that's broadcasting it that's for sure.

Oh and fyi, upstairs in my house I get -110dBm 1800 from 3 local sites of which I'm on the border of coverage for all of them. Speedtest is giving me 7 down and 4 up over 1800. So the way I see it, 800 is doing pretty well atm, I guess because no one is on it, yet.
I would seriously doubt that is the mast that is giving you 800. If that's the view from your house it can't be surely?
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Old 08-12-2015, 20:12
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This is excellent! monitoring it all from way home on train from Birmingham to Worcester.

Watched 3G signal drop down to be replaced by 4g 800mhz signal instead of usual no signal!

Yay
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Old 08-12-2015, 20:18
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I wonder if there's a jailbreak tweak that let's you force a certain frequency?
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Old 08-12-2015, 20:26
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Actually I was only guessing on the date (15th or today).
iTech and myself were having a small but friendly disagreement over whether it would come as part of 9.2.
Being normally wrong, I didn't expect to win that one!

I think with the Three 800 even if there's a small whiff of 2100 it switches back.
In other words there is no threshold set up. it will cling to even unusable 2100 if it's there?
Skippy was saying this is a glitch in the system they are trying to fix and he could be right but it seems that everyone who says they get some 4G800 and then it fades to 2100 actually has some 2100 available which is why that happens.

I think.... maybe.....
I meant it fades from full 4G800 to weak 4G800 on certain mast that's the glitch when it should be very good signal even close to the mast transmitting the 800 signal
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Old 08-12-2015, 20:28
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I wonder if there's a jailbreak tweak that let's you force a certain frequency?
Is there even a jailbreak for 9.2?
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