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Old 08-12-2015, 21:59
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Pretty sure they have an iPhone as they say 9.2. iPhone can be bought from anywhere.


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Old 08-12-2015, 21:59
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Well it didn't take me long to not be happy . I should have loads of indoor and outdoor 800 on my journey home and crucially in my home town. Apart from a few seconds of 800 (confirmed by Field Test Mode) I've had nothing. What disappoints me most is that my home town has had (according to the Three Coverage map) really good indoor and outdoor 800 coverage. My phone is a 6S Plus so I tried my wife's 6 and no luck there either. So this leaves me with no confidence for the rest of the places where I should get 800 4G. Most of my non-work locations are bathed in 800 but if tonight's experience is anything to go by I'll be disappointed.
So I called Three who advised me to give it 48 hours! Also they want me to wait for the work happening the day after tomorrow on my nearest mast. Yes, I'll wait and see how we go but there's always a wait, there's always a tomorrow. I really thought this update would take Three from a very poor 4G network (compared to EE and Vodafone in my experience) to a network I would stick with given how much data I use (I need AYCE). But so far, that's not the case.
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:00
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I've said this before, don't believe the coverage checker. Three have acknowledged to me that is is wrong.
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:01
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Well it didn't take me long to not be happy . I should have loads of indoor and outdoor 800 on my journey home and crucially in my home town. Apart from a few seconds of 800 (confirmed by Field Test Mode) I've had nothing. What disappoints me most is that my home town has had (according to the Three Coverage map) really good indoor and outdoor 800 coverage. My phone is a 6S Plus so I tried my wife's 6 and no luck there either. So this leaves me with no confidence for the rest of the places where I should get 800 4G. Most of my non-work locations are bathed in 800 but if tonight's experience is anything to go by I'll be disappointed.
So I called Three who advised me to give it 48 hours! Also they want me to wait for the work happening the day after tomorrow on my nearest mast. Yes, I'll wait and see how we go but there's always a wait, there's always a tomorrow. I really thought this update would take Three from a very poor 4G network (compared to EE and Vodafone in my experience) to a network I would stick with given how much data I use (I need AYCE). But so far, that's not the case.
Pretty much the same here. Coverage map is a joke. More what they envision rather than current setup
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:05
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It isn't 15h though is it, which is when they said iPhones would be enabled. They are still on the "coming soon" list as per

http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/network/4G-Supervoice

Other handsets are ready for VoLTE, but not iPhone, yet.
The iPhone is ready for VoLTE I'm currently using it!!
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:10
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Well it didn't take me long to not be happy . I should have loads of indoor and outdoor 800 on my journey home and crucially in my home town. Apart from a few seconds of 800 (confirmed by Field Test Mode) I've had nothing. What disappoints me most is that my home town has had (according to the Three Coverage map) really good indoor and outdoor 800 coverage. My phone is a 6S Plus so I tried my wife's 6 and no luck there either. So this leaves me with no confidence for the rest of the places where I should get 800 4G. Most of my non-work locations are bathed in 800 but if tonight's experience is anything to go by I'll be disappointed.
So I called Three who advised me to give it 48 hours! Also they want me to wait for the work happening the day after tomorrow on my nearest mast. Yes, I'll wait and see how we go but there's always a wait, there's always a tomorrow. I really thought this update would take Three from a very poor 4G network (compared to EE and Vodafone in my experience) to a network I would stick with given how much data I use (I need AYCE). But so far, that's not the case.
Give them a chance, it's not even 5 hours into the process, I would be extremely surprised if there aren't teething problems before it works properly.
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:26
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It might not be reliable. Is that with a 6 or 6S? Make sure wifi is off. Do the other values in that screen (like measured RSSI or average RSRP) update every few seconds even with priority on 0? Also make sure the ARFCN is still showing 6175 when this happens.
It'll hold on to it as long as you like out of that menu but it seems to drop to 3g the moment it picks up the values now. No idea. Will try closer to mast tomorrow.
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:35
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Despite me usually getting 4G okay I'm now getting 800 after the carrier update. Call setup is instant with volte.
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:43
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Without getting into an argument, but you know as little as anyone else, maybe don't post as if you are the official Three representative?

With regard to Supervoice, it's now showing as available for iPhones on the coverage checker.

http://s19.postimg.org/dod9t605v/image.jpg
Very tactful. Ever so slightly harsh (if I can be critical) Splendidly done!!
Hey Thine, don't worry..... I'm wrong all the time..... got used to it now.......
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:46
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Devon is mad. Just mad.
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:50
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Yeah, but where would this forum be without me eh?
Hahahahahahahaha
Hey and come on.... I called iOS 9.2 almost right on target.
No one believed me...
This is a well educated guess if ever there was one, at 3:37 today ......... http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=6584
It's even enabled VoLTE on EE (which I also predicted) although EE aren't allowing it yet.
I take your post as a compliment as I'm sure it was meant!
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Old 08-12-2015, 22:59
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Yeah, but where would this forum be without me eh?
Hahahahahahahaha
Hey and come on.... I called iOS 9.2 almost right on target.
No one believed me...
This is a well educated guess if ever there was one, at 3:37 today ......... http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=6584
It's even enabled VoLTE on EE (which I also predicted) although EE aren't allowing it yet.
I take your post as a compliment as I'm sure it was meant!
You still haven't run naked across the field where the mast is, have you? Bookey is going to switch your 4G off..

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Old 08-12-2015, 23:03
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Give them a chance, it's not even 5 hours into the process, I would be extremely surprised if there aren't teething problems before it works properly.
No, sorry, Three are months in. "Super Voice" went live newly three months ago and before that there was a testing programme operated by Three employees. This also is the thing that's supposed to launch them to 95% 4G coverage in the next three weeks. A big company doesn't bring something to market without it being ready.
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:10
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No, sorry, Three are months in. "Super Voice" went live newly three months ago and before that there was a testing programme operated by Three employees. This also is the thing that's supposed to launch them to 95% 4G coverage in the next three weeks. A big company doesn't bring something to market without it being ready.
Most big companies don't, but Three seem to think beta testing is what you do with paying customers...
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:12
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So been having some feedback from friends about supervoice. Average speed is about 3mbps, but still a massive improvement over nothing.

One of them is also going to do some tests in areas with Orange 2G fallback and 800MHz to see how it works, so I hope to feedback on that soon.
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:15
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So on this iphone update is 800 still set as the lowest priority requiring going somewhere you get no other signal to get it?
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:19
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Most big companies don't, but Three seem to think beta testing is what you do with paying customers...
You may be right! We're all beta testers now.
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:23
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Yeah let us know how it goes.
By the way, you will have to turn the home signal box off as 3G is prioritised higher than 800.
You will also need to be somewhere there is no 3G or 4G1800 signal whatsoever to get 800.
No luck. Back of their house the 3G signal fluctuates between no signal and 1 bar but never picked up 800
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:24
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I think it's pretty clear that Three are just wasting time until they have O2's network.
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:26
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I think it's pretty clear that Three are just wasting time until they have O2's network.
At this point isn't that a way too big gamble to make, even for them?
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:31
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Most big companies don't, but Three seem to think beta testing is what you do with paying customers...
Three do like to do that don't they?
I suppose the cheaper prices justify that in some way although "normal" users wouldn't know what the hell was going on so I'm not sure that's a good angle.
One thing is certain....
Mr Tom Bennett (director of services and devices) is not going to allow us to use 800 or VoLTE until it works as expected. I suspect this is as we on here are expecting it to work.
1. Voice over 2600, 1800 and 800 with DCR lower than current 2G/3G.
2. Proper call hand-over between 2G/3G and 4G in both directions that actually works with no "no service" moments in between. (SRVCC and reverse SRVCC working as expected).
That's it. Simple. Two points.

Point two is a magnitude harder than point one.

We ain't getting it till it works... period!
I like that....
Top bloke!
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:36
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You still haven't run naked across the field where the mast is, have you? Bookey is going to switch your 4G off..

Ok ok... set me a date and I'll do it. No really I will.
I might wait till March when they put the fibre in and the 30/40Mbps cap is lifted.
It's all on roadworks.org and everything.
I'll have to run through what was once (2013, 35 Acres) the UK's biggest solar farm and past a massive wind turbine...
Will anything get cut off???
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:37
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Three do like to do that don't they?
I suppose the cheaper prices justify that in some way although "normal" users wouldn't know what the hell was going on so I'm not sure that's a good angle.
One thing is certain....
Mr Tom Bennett (director of services and devices) is not going to allow us to use 800 or VoLTE until it works as expected. I suspect this is as we on here are expecting it to work.
1. Voice over 2600, 1800 and 800 with DCR lower than current 2G/3G.
2. Proper call hand-over between 2G/3G and 4G in both directions that actually works with no "no service" moments in between. (SRVCC and reverse SRVCC working as expected).
That's it. Simple. Two points.

Point two is a magnitude harder than point one.

We ain't getting it till it works... period!
I like that....
Top bloke!
That's fair for EE. I think it's understandable that Three launched it without perfecting it, they don't have an extensive 2G network across the country to fall back on like EE, and now with 4G 800+VoLTE they kind of do. It's almost the same thing, on EE you will stick to 4G/3G as much as possible and only as a last resort do you drop down to 2G EDGE or god forbid an old Orange 2G site. Same principle with Three now, just that you go up to 4G 800.
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:37
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Something has changed on 800 so it might be possible for data only devices to use 800 now (which the coverage checker has always claimed should be the case).

Anyone with a data only device (preferably one that the coverage checker says should work like an iPad Air) in an area with 800 but no 1800 able to check?
I've got a SIM in a Nexus 7 LTE, so wonder if that will work. It didn't appear to do so before. Not sure how I can lock to band 20 though - just 4G.
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Old 08-12-2015, 23:38
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Devon, Three are so good at this that the last update has removed all 4G from my 6s if I put a Three sim into it .

Put the Three sim in a 5s, it has 4G, put my EE sim back into my 6s it has 4G, put the Three sim back into the 6s, only 3G.

So it's a Three cock-up.

Luckily I don't rely on using Three in my 6s .
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