Originally Posted by David_bl1:
“Increasing the transmission power of a base station may increase your received signal level by a few dB, but that does not automatically mean you will be able to use your mobile in places you couldn't before.
The transmission power of your mobile is very low, and fixed. This means the usable coverage area is limited by the ability of the base station to receive the signal from your mobile, not by the ability of your mobile to receive the signal from the base station. This is called uplink limited.
If an uplink from your mobile cannot be established, then your mobile will not be registered and will show no signal even though you are receiving a strong signal from the base station. Your mobile might be receiving the high powered transmission from the base station, but that does not mean the base station is received the low powered transmission from your mobile.
In situations where the coverage area of base stations overlap, increasing the transmission power of the base station can actually degrade usage coverage because interference levels increase.
In most cases, increasing the usable coverage area is achieved by upgrading the base station receivers to newer versions with better sensitivity, by using higher gain antennas (and adjusting the tilt), and by using mast head amplifiers to boost the signal received from your mobile. This explains why the 2G/3G coverage footprint often increases after a base station antennas and receivers are upgraded to support 4G.
The frequency also make a difference as 800Mhz exhibits very different propagation characteristics to 2100Mhz, although each has it's own pro's and con's.
I'm pointing this out because people often focus exclusively on the transmission power of the base station, without realising that it's not the only factor that affects usable coverage, and often the limiting factor is the low output power of their mobile.”
That may be so but 1800 on both Three and EE is on significantly reduced power to stop it over-reaching 3G. 1800 being lower and 4G being much more robust means power has to be wound right back.
Since my mast came on, sat outside in the car with the phone in a holder I normally get 3 bars EDGE now.
Atmospherics have to allow EDGE to be bordering 4 bars before 4G appears at 1-2 bars.
This means that when EE (for example) reach the tipping point of having enough users on 4G voice and can change CSFB to 2G, that 4G signal is going to be there all the time at 3-4 bars and I won't see 3G again.
Gareth and yourself are also correct here in stating that while your phone only has a tiny receiving antenna, the signal is being broadcast at a high power (in comparison) and conversely while the phone is only pumping out 1 Watt over again, a tiny antenna, this signal is being listened too by new modern super sensitive massive great panel antennas.
There are plenty of places here where my iPhone could easily get a 4G1800 signal to a mast but isn't actually picking up a strong enough incoming signal at the moment to actually show 4G.
I'm such a massively sad anorak

that I know which mast my signal is coming from most of the time and it's particularly easy here as it's like middle earth (unless you are on a hill you are normally only in line of, or near line of sight of one mast at a time.)
In fact ordinarily I don't think anyone here would be taking about transmission power if it wasn't blatantly obvious when 4G launched that is was greatly power restricted.