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Old 12-02-2016, 18:15
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Yeah it looks like the devices list was altered pretty quickly.
Most devices now have TINT800=False
http://gdurl.com/b3fK
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Old 12-02-2016, 22:03
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I've found part of my home where I can fairly easily shield the phone from 4G1800 and 3G2100 signals (next to a load-bearing wall with my body and hands helping shield it) and it does then connect to Band 20 but can't do anything with it: the signal strength bar shows an empty triangle. G-NetTrack has a CELLID of 10, rather than 0, and LTE Discovery agrees with a GCI ending hex 0A rather than 00 (as well as reporting Band 20, instead of Band 3: it seems they've added '3 UK' to their database in a recent update to it).
Are you sure it's not just roaming on to Vodafone in limited service mode for emergency calls? Some phones will give cell id data for the limited service network.
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Old 12-02-2016, 22:06
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The Moto G 3rd gen is not on the list at all, so I think it's time for the microwave again!
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Old 12-02-2016, 22:32
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I'm just sitting here with my G4 smiling.
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Old 12-02-2016, 22:39
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I'm just sitting here with my G4 smiling.
hi do you have a link or have the kdz file for the LG G4 10i firmware that you could share?
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Old 13-02-2016, 13:44
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Are you sure it's not just roaming on to Vodafone in limited service mode for emergency calls? Some phones will give cell id data for the limited service network.
You're right, G-NetTrack is showing the MNC changing to 15 which is Vodafone, and sometimes to 10 (O2).

edit: I've just found your thread about CellIDs and 10 isn't even one of Three's Band 20 anyway (6,7, and 8) so it couldn't have been them I was connecting to. Clearly that was Vodafone as they use 10, 20, and 30.

It seems odd that the phone doesn't mention it can make emergency calls when it does that, except in the lock-screen. There must be a setting somewhere for a notification, I'll have a look.
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Old 13-02-2016, 20:23
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I have a Motorola X Force. I can't find anything about it supporting VoLTE. But I can't believe it doesn't being their newest 'premium' phone. Nothing on Three's website about it being listed as compatible either. Does anyone know? I am due to have some work done in my area on the 19th but am not sure what for. Do I have to do anything special to my phone to be able to get it? I have Marshmallow 6.0 on it and purchased it SIM free from Carphone Warehouse on a deal.
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Old 13-02-2016, 22:11
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I have a Motorola X Force. I can't find anything about it supporting VoLTE. But I can't believe it doesn't being their newest 'premium' phone. Nothing on Three's website about it being listed as compatible either. Does anyone know? I am due to have some work done in my area on the 19th but am not sure what for. Do I have to do anything special to my phone to be able to get it? I have Marshmallow 6.0 on it and purchased it SIM free from Carphone Warehouse on a deal.
I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I'd hope they eventually support all handsets with the 800 band (the VoLTE isn't that vital to me).
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Old 13-02-2016, 22:37
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I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I'd hope they eventually support all handsets with the 800 band (the VoLTE isn't that vital to me).
Me too LG v10, not even listed on their website as it hasn't really been sold in the UK. Went to the trouble of getting one from Germany that supported 800 and 1800Mhz LTE too! thinking ThreeinTouch wouldn't care which handset, I was wrong again!
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Old 14-02-2016, 19:41
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Visiting London atm, I'm finding that sometimes in central London, if you airplane mode then off again, I'll be put on 800MHz. Confirmed with Field Test mode and also calls work on it Weird that it doesn't seem to be low priority when first connecting, in London anyway? Everywhere else it only goes on when 3G is lost, as we'd expect.

Have to say, I took a ferry out to sea a few days ago, if it weren't for 800MHz I'd have lost signal way before I actually did. I turned off 4G Voice & Data when quite far out, and had no service. Turned it back on, 3 bars 800MHz
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Old 15-02-2016, 00:33
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So basically, to use 800 you have to get on a ferry and go out to sea?
Well why didn't Three tell everyone that in the first place?
There would have been no need for the confusion.
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Old 15-02-2016, 06:53
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So basically, to use 800 you have to get on a ferry and go out to sea?
Well why didn't Three tell everyone that in the first place?
There would have been no need for the confusion.
Or live in my apartment, constant 800 with VoLTE on Three and no more dropped calls.

However there is still no service in the lift on ground or below.
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Old 15-02-2016, 09:11
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Or live in my apartment, constant 800 with VoLTE on Three and no more dropped calls.

However there is still no service in the lift on ground or below.
A lift is one place where I would not expect there to be much if any signal. Most of them are essentially a metal box after all
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Old 16-02-2016, 00:42
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Well, with 3 intouch installed on my sim-free Z3 Compact, I'm still unable to get a sniff of 4g (or 3g) in the Ford Madox Brown in Manchester... came here and saw Three had removed TINT800 from my device, so I've countered with uninstalling 3 intouch.

To be fair, the voice quality on wifi was awful anyway: sat in the same room as the router it was breaking up with lots of jitter and delay. It's a 100mbit symmetric Hyperoptic connection, so I'd struggle to believe it's that!
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Old 16-02-2016, 01:50
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Or live in my apartment, constant 800 with VoLTE on Three and no more dropped calls.

However there is still no service in the lift on ground or below.
Wait, what? So your apartment is the only place in the UK that Three users can reliably get 800?
Good God man, what are you waiting for...... start charging an admission fee!!!
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Old 16-02-2016, 10:02
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Wait, what? So your apartment is the only place in the UK that Three users can reliably get 800?
Good God man, what are you waiting for...... start charging an admission fee!!!
In fairness there are two. Managed to ring the wife yesterday from M&S Food where there used to be no signal. Two counts as full country coverage right because my shopping experience had been #MadeRight as Three PR might say.
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Old 16-02-2016, 11:09
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Am I right in thinking that over time average 3G speeds should improve a fair bit with more and more using 4G?
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Old 16-02-2016, 11:18
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Am I right in thinking that over time average 3G speeds should improve a fair bit with more and more using 4G?
That can happen. I used to spend a lot of time in Reading town centre, where the 3G was utter pants, but the 4G (where you could get a signal) was very fast and usable. That was early days though, while 3 was still enabling 4G in batches of SIMs and lots of people didn't necessarily have compatible phones.

Though it's not going to happen in those areas that only have 4G 800 because it's so low down in the priority list - I'd guess/hope that 3 has 1800MHz 4G in those places with rampant congestion.

I don't know if 3 does/can/plans to kick people back down to 3G in areas where the 4G is congested, similar to how Vodafone and O2 love to put people on 2G while they're on the phone
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Old 16-02-2016, 12:32
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Am I right in thinking that over time average 3G speeds should improve a fair bit with more and more using 4G?
I don't know but where I live I'm regularly getting 30mbps download speed over 3G, which is pretty incredible. Ironically I don't need it when I'm at home though
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Old 17-02-2016, 00:11
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Well, with 3 intouch installed on my sim-free Z3 Compact, I'm still unable to get a sniff of 4g (or 3g) in the Ford Madox Brown in Manchester... came here and saw Three had removed TINT800 from my device, so I've countered with uninstalling 3 intouch.

To be fair, the voice quality on wifi was awful anyway: sat in the same room as the router it was breaking up with lots of jitter and delay. It's a 100mbit symmetric Hyperoptic connection, so I'd struggle to believe it's that!
I have also found the same with the quality of the calls, though i'm on Sky FTTC.

I was hoping TINT would work as quite regularly i have no signal at home nor my place of work, which sucks, just like TINT currently does...
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Old 17-02-2016, 07:41
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Wait, what? So your apartment is the only place in the UK that Three users can reliably get 800?
Good God man, what are you waiting for...... start charging an admission fee!!!
A ~10m segment of corridor at my gym now gets VoLTE ... Now have coverage for an extra 10s or so. Fantastic ...

[iPhone 6s+ - confirmed via a call and Settings->General->About & click on Carrier to show IMS Status toggle]
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Old 17-02-2016, 18:19
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Something weird happened today, usually no LTE signal inside but today four cells, according to LTE discovery app anyway. Low power -100dBm but consistent.
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Old 18-02-2016, 10:27
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4G is finally making its way to Lancaster!
I'm getting it almost everywhere now (except for inside of my house -_-).

Ah, I thought this day would never come. Lancaster was on the list for 2014 and then removed from it.

P.S. The 4G map coverage on their website is not up to date for Lancaster.
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Old 18-02-2016, 20:03
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Yeah it looks like the devices list was altered pretty quickly.
Most devices now have TINT800=False
http://gdurl.com/b3fK
Oh drat, looks like my Galaxy S4 won't get 800 after all then

Will it ever be allowed on the 800MHz band - i.e. will it ever get VoLTE or TinT?
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Old 18-02-2016, 20:05
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A ~10m segment of corridor at my gym now gets VoLTE ... Now have coverage for an extra 10s or so. Fantastic ...

[iPhone 6s+ - confirmed via a call and Settings->General->About & click on Carrier to show IMS Status toggle]
Pahaha, 10m of corridor getting 4G800!

Imagine all of the VoLTE users huddled together in that 10m area, trying to grab that 800 signal...

On a related note, my S4 has been removed from the TinT list.

Alright, alright, it's not really alright!
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