That can't be right surely? aghhhhhh Threeeeeee sort it out and tell people what to expect.
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Have unlocked the bootloader on my Three G4 and flashed an MM based ROM. Made sure to do a full wipe, i was still able to access 800MHz but VoLTE doesn't work. Where is the 800MHz access data stored? Seemingly nowhere that i can access as i did a full (and i mean full) wipe of the device before flashing.
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“That can't be right surely? aghhhhhh Threeeeeee sort it out and tell people what to expect.”
“That can't be right surely? aghhhhhh Threeeeeee sort it out and tell people what to expect.”
I can only hope he wasn't/isn't aware of inTouch getting 4G access, which is fair enough as that wouldn't be his department.
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“I can only hope he wasn't/isn't aware of inTouch getting 4G access, which is fair enough as that wouldn't be his department.”
“I can only hope he wasn't/isn't aware of inTouch getting 4G access, which is fair enough as that wouldn't be his department.”
I have a non Three supplied HTC One M8 with stock firmware, was invited onto the beta and can access VoLTE so I would surmise he's talking out of a misinformed extrusion port on his nether regions!
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“I can only hope he wasn't/isn't aware of inTouch getting 4G access, which is fair enough as that wouldn't be his department.”
“I can only hope he wasn't/isn't aware of inTouch getting 4G access, which is fair enough as that wouldn't be his department.”
Surely the whole point of inTouch is to provide a bodged VoLTE for handsets that will never get it natively.
For handsets that they have sold (that support VoLTE), or will sell in the future, why wouldn't they just do native VoLTE?
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Originally Posted by iTech:
“Just had a text from Three to look out for a new Three in Touch App. They know I have an iPhone so looks like an iOS version is coming out. Sorry if playing catch up! Will this give me access to the VERY elusive 800 that I seem to be bathed in at home but can never access?”
“Just had a text from Three to look out for a new Three in Touch App. They know I have an iPhone so looks like an iOS version is coming out. Sorry if playing catch up! Will this give me access to the VERY elusive 800 that I seem to be bathed in at home but can never access?”
I got that text too, but nothing in the apps store yet. I have an iPhone 6 and like you could not get any 4G at home, I can get it at work which makes me assume that I get 1800mhz 4g at work and the 4g at home was 800mhz. I was puzzled why I couldn't get it as the 3G reception here is pretty ropey in the house at best.
Anyway the other day I turned off the 4g in the phone and then switched the phone off completely. Then I turned it back on and switched the 4g back on. Low and behold I immediately got a 4g signal in the house. Maybe it's a coincidence but worth a try.
Patrick
North Worcs
Originally Posted by Yogimax:
“I have a non Three supplied HTC One M8 with stock firmware, was invited onto the beta and can access VoLTE so I would surmise he's talking out of a misinformed extrusion port on his nether regions!”
“I have a non Three supplied HTC One M8 with stock firmware, was invited onto the beta and can access VoLTE so I would surmise he's talking out of a misinformed extrusion port on his nether regions!”
My non Three branded G3 was able to too, so sounds like he was mistaken or we've misinterpreted what was said, e.g he might be referring to the the situation at the present time and not in future weeks etc.
It would be odd to invite beta testers to try out the additional features in the TinT app (4G calling, and access to LTE band 20 whilst 4G calling is enabled for phones which otherwise wouldn't be allowed on) if they do not intend to include that in the publicly available version going forwards at some point. Three can no doubt turn it all on and off freely through the app whilst it is running.
Reducing the TinT app to a way to use somebody else's WiFi to make up for the unavailability of Three's mobile signal (as it was before) would be an admission that Three's coverage is a bit rubbish. I was hoping TinT was going to become a way to increase the coverage Three is available to provide, as Jackson says he'll make it right. I'm sure it will be fully enabled in a few weeks, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with the beta of the new features.
Reducing the TinT app to a way to use somebody else's WiFi to make up for the unavailability of Three's mobile signal (as it was before) would be an admission that Three's coverage is a bit rubbish. I was hoping TinT was going to become a way to increase the coverage Three is available to provide, as Jackson says he'll make it right. I'm sure it will be fully enabled in a few weeks, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with the beta of the new features.
My thoughts too, although I remain concerned about whether they will enable it for non flagships or devices like my V10.
Just to clarify, has 4G calling through the app been removed for everyone or does it still work for some?
Originally Posted by -ajm-:
“Just to clarify, has 4G calling through the app been removed for everyone or does it still work for some?”
“Just to clarify, has 4G calling through the app been removed for everyone or does it still work for some?”
It's still working for me - at least, I can still see the option to enable it. I'm one of those who received beta access, so I'm guessing my number has been enabled for 4G access, whereas the numbers of people without access haven't yet.
I've also had a text announcing the new version through the store (i.e. the non-beta version) - is there anyone who's had the text who wasn't in the beta, and if so, do you have access to 4G calling?
Edit: I've just had a survey from Three about the trial - the email suggest the full launch will be in the next 2 weeks.
Paul.
Originally Posted by moox:
“Surely the whole point of inTouch is to provide a bodged VoLTE for handsets that will never get it natively.
For handsets that they have sold (that support VoLTE), or will sell in the future, why wouldn't they just do native VoLTE?”
“Surely the whole point of inTouch is to provide a bodged VoLTE for handsets that will never get it natively.
For handsets that they have sold (that support VoLTE), or will sell in the future, why wouldn't they just do native VoLTE?”
Native VoLTE and WiFi calling - that would be logical - friends on EE can sit of WiFi making calls while I'm blind!
OK I got a text yesterday asking me to look out for an "updated & improved" TiT app in "your app store". So I went to the Play Store and the version available is 5.1.8 which was updated on 16/3. So this is not the version I am looking for. Of course I got this text on phone number 1 which does not support band 20, whereas phone number 2, which does support band 20, has had no such text. Not that it really matters as Three have rolled out LTE for me anyway, but it would be nice to know that I am missing out on something.
Originally Posted by finbaar:
“OK I got a text yesterday asking me to look out for an "updated & improved" TiT app in "your app store". So I went to the Play Store and the version available is 5.1.8 which was updated on 16/3. So this is not the version I am looking for. Of course I got this text on phone number 1 which does not support band 20, whereas phone number 2, which does support band 20, has had no such text. Not that it really matters as Three have rolled out LTE for me anyway, but it would be nice to know that I am missing out on something.”
“OK I got a text yesterday asking me to look out for an "updated & improved" TiT app in "your app store". So I went to the Play Store and the version available is 5.1.8 which was updated on 16/3. So this is not the version I am looking for. Of course I got this text on phone number 1 which does not support band 20, whereas phone number 2, which does support band 20, has had no such text. Not that it really matters as Three have rolled out LTE for me anyway, but it would be nice to know that I am missing out on something.”
I believe 5.1.8 is the latest version for all. It seems 5.1.8 was updated on the store (on 16th Mar) and was made available only to Beta users for a period of time and then was promoted to 'normal' release without a new version being uploaded, hence why its the same version same date.
I just got an email about the beta programme with a user survey where I asked that the prioritisation of marginal 3G over good 800MHz 4G be addressed.
"Hello,
Our records show that you recently downloaded the new version of our Three inTouch app.
You've now been using the service for a couple of weeks, and we'd like to ask you a few questions about your experience so far.
All you have to do is click on the link below, and the survey should only take 5 minutes to complete.
The customer preview of this app is ending this week, and we'll be working on launching the new and improved version (using your feedback) in the next 2 weeks.
Please can we ask you to respond before Monday 4th April.
All you have to do is click here to be taken to the survey.
Many Thanks."
"Hello,
Our records show that you recently downloaded the new version of our Three inTouch app.
You've now been using the service for a couple of weeks, and we'd like to ask you a few questions about your experience so far.
All you have to do is click on the link below, and the survey should only take 5 minutes to complete.
The customer preview of this app is ending this week, and we'll be working on launching the new and improved version (using your feedback) in the next 2 weeks.
Please can we ask you to respond before Monday 4th April.
All you have to do is click here to be taken to the survey.
Many Thanks."
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“I can only hope he wasn't/isn't aware of inTouch getting 4G access, which is fair enough as that wouldn't be his department.”
“I can only hope he wasn't/isn't aware of inTouch getting 4G access, which is fair enough as that wouldn't be his department.”
I asked Three on Twitter and they replied that they don't have information at the moment, but they hope that ThreeInTouch will allow VoLTE / 800 access in the future.
I am guessing we have to wait for the reports from the trial, the customer contact stats, any fault issues to be investigated and any engineering / capacity data to come back etc and for a decision to be made about a further trial or wide rollout.
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“I am guessing we have to wait for the reports from the trial, the customer contact stats, any fault issues to be investigated and any engineering / capacity data to come back etc and for a decision to be made about a further trial or wide rollout.”
“I am guessing we have to wait for the reports from the trial, the customer contact stats, any fault issues to be investigated and any engineering / capacity data to come back etc and for a decision to be made about a further trial or wide rollout.”
I assume that inTouch over 4G is using the same backend equipment, codecs, bitrates etc as inTouch over wifi - the only difference is the transport mechanism. Would there really be any worries about capacity given that they let anyone sign up for wifi calling today?
They aren't enabling it over 1800 4G and the priorities are currently set such that you shouldn't see 800 much, so I can't see there being a congestion issue there
Phone compatibility could be a real concern, though. At least when I had access to it for 5 minutes it didn't perfectly mesh with Android. Phone calls placed through the android dialer did not switch to inTouch like they did on wifi (but didn't even when on wifi, using the beta version)
I don't see why phone compatibility would be an issue as Android OS is identical on all handsets. Oh, hang on.....What a farking mess.
Originally Posted by moox:
“I assume that inTouch over 4G is using the same backend equipment, codecs, bitrates etc as inTouch over wifi - the only difference is the transport mechanism. Would there really be any worries about capacity given that they let anyone sign up for wifi calling today?
They aren't enabling it over 1800 4G and the priorities are currently set such that you shouldn't see 800 much, so I can't see there being a congestion issue there
Phone compatibility could be a real concern, though. At least when I had access to it for 5 minutes it didn't perfectly mesh with Android. Phone calls placed through the android dialer did not switch to inTouch like they did on wifi (but didn't even when on wifi, using the beta version)”
“I assume that inTouch over 4G is using the same backend equipment, codecs, bitrates etc as inTouch over wifi - the only difference is the transport mechanism. Would there really be any worries about capacity given that they let anyone sign up for wifi calling today?
They aren't enabling it over 1800 4G and the priorities are currently set such that you shouldn't see 800 much, so I can't see there being a congestion issue there
Phone compatibility could be a real concern, though. At least when I had access to it for 5 minutes it didn't perfectly mesh with Android. Phone calls placed through the android dialer did not switch to inTouch like they did on wifi (but didn't even when on wifi, using the beta version)”
Capacity from a point of view of chucking loads more devices onto 800.
Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“I don't see why phone compatibility would be an issue as Android OS is identical on all handsets. Oh, hang on.....What a farking mess.”
“I don't see why phone compatibility would be an issue as Android OS is identical on all handsets. Oh, hang on.....What a farking mess.”
Didn't google implement Carrier Settings type functionality into Marshmallow?
Originally Posted by thebennyboy:
“Didn't google implement Carrier Settings type functionality into Marshmallow?”
“Didn't google implement Carrier Settings type functionality into Marshmallow?”
Yes they did but the question should be is the software up to the job and are the networks capable of implementing it? Likely answer is no and no.
Roll on Android N as it looks like Google did a half assed job.
https://source.android.com/devices/t...g/carrier.html
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Yes they did but the question should be is the software up to the job and are the networks capable of implementing it? Likely answer is no and no.
Roll on Android N as it looks like Google did a half assed job.
https://source.android.com/devices/t...g/carrier.html”
“Yes they did but the question should be is the software up to the job and are the networks capable of implementing it? Likely answer is no and no.
Roll on Android N as it looks like Google did a half assed job.
https://source.android.com/devices/t...g/carrier.html”
It's embarrassing that Google can't sort it out. Can't be that difficult surely? Seems like they just left it too late, where as Apple had it all sussed.
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Capacity from a point of view of chucking loads more devices onto 800.”
“Capacity from a point of view of chucking loads more devices onto 800.”
Provided 4G1800 and 3G2100 remain above 4G800 in priority, then it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Presumably most people who are with Three, chose Three or stayed with Three because they can get a signal already in most places they visit, for most of the day (and those that can't get a signal have already switched to someone else).
As such, there should only really be a relatively small proportion of additional subscribers trying to connect to 4G800 at any given time of day. Voice-calls use negligible bandwidth (I'm guessing less than 32kbps each way), and limiting data-rates as needed should keep things in check (which might annoy persistent speedtest users).
Originally Posted by thebennyboy:
“Have unlocked the bootloader on my Three G4 and flashed an MM based ROM. Made sure to do a full wipe, i was still able to access 800MHz but VoLTE doesn't work. Where is the 800MHz access data stored? Seemingly nowhere that i can access as i did a full (and i mean full) wipe of the device before flashing.”
“Have unlocked the bootloader on my Three G4 and flashed an MM based ROM. Made sure to do a full wipe, i was still able to access 800MHz but VoLTE doesn't work. Where is the 800MHz access data stored? Seemingly nowhere that i can access as i did a full (and i mean full) wipe of the device before flashing.”
Here you go mate.
Quote:
“OK, took some time to get back here, busy time.
Before you attempt to do anything, you have to know it can brick your device easily.
This is ONLY for LG G4, not for any other device. ALL YOUR DATA WILL BE WIPED OUT.
Download KDZ for Three UK and flash it to your phone via LG Flash Utility. Tested with firmware 10E (in my case had to flash it twice, as phone was FC keyboard and couldn't get past logon screen):
http://pkg03.lime.gdms.lge.com/dn/do...H81510e_00.kdz
After flashing, your phone will show OPT2 version instead of EUR. But VoLTE and 800 MHz LTE don't work. Essentialy, the firmware did not recognise your phone is from Three UK and disables it.
1. You need to root you phone. How to do it - please check other posts - I used root injection method with Ubuntu.
2. Now, you need FX and FX root addon (my choise as doesn't mess the file permissions). - get it from Google Play
3. You also need Hex Editor Free - get it from Google Play.
4. You need SD card present in your phone for backup.
1. Once you are rooted open FX and go to Root/system
In folder dev / block you will find file called mmcblk0p22
2. Copy it to your ext SD card TWICE, once in any folder as a backup, second time in the root folder - this is the one you'll work on.
3. Now open HEX Editor and edit mmcblk02p22 file exactly as on pictures attached - before and after (you're editing lines 0000aa000 to 0000a040. DO NOT TOUCH ANY OTHER LINE)
4. Save the file, and using FX copy it back to the dev/block folder (replace the file). Make sure FX has unlocked padlock at the top, otherwise won't let you override.
5. Reboot the phone.
6. Using FX explorer unpack archive.tar.bz2 to cust folder in your phone root. It contains modified H3G config files. Make sure you're using FX explorer to get the right file permissions.
7. Reboot. If you use now code to enter hidden menu - 277634#*# you will see that VoLTE settings are active.
NOTE: If you're already rooted EUR software you may try:
1. Edit mmcblk02p22
2. Edit Cust files.
3. Flash over Three's 10D firmware.”
“OK, took some time to get back here, busy time.
Before you attempt to do anything, you have to know it can brick your device easily.
This is ONLY for LG G4, not for any other device. ALL YOUR DATA WILL BE WIPED OUT.
Download KDZ for Three UK and flash it to your phone via LG Flash Utility. Tested with firmware 10E (in my case had to flash it twice, as phone was FC keyboard and couldn't get past logon screen):
http://pkg03.lime.gdms.lge.com/dn/do...H81510e_00.kdz
After flashing, your phone will show OPT2 version instead of EUR. But VoLTE and 800 MHz LTE don't work. Essentialy, the firmware did not recognise your phone is from Three UK and disables it.
1. You need to root you phone. How to do it - please check other posts - I used root injection method with Ubuntu.
2. Now, you need FX and FX root addon (my choise as doesn't mess the file permissions). - get it from Google Play
3. You also need Hex Editor Free - get it from Google Play.
4. You need SD card present in your phone for backup.
1. Once you are rooted open FX and go to Root/system
In folder dev / block you will find file called mmcblk0p22
2. Copy it to your ext SD card TWICE, once in any folder as a backup, second time in the root folder - this is the one you'll work on.
3. Now open HEX Editor and edit mmcblk02p22 file exactly as on pictures attached - before and after (you're editing lines 0000aa000 to 0000a040. DO NOT TOUCH ANY OTHER LINE)
4. Save the file, and using FX copy it back to the dev/block folder (replace the file). Make sure FX has unlocked padlock at the top, otherwise won't let you override.
5. Reboot the phone.
6. Using FX explorer unpack archive.tar.bz2 to cust folder in your phone root. It contains modified H3G config files. Make sure you're using FX explorer to get the right file permissions.
7. Reboot. If you use now code to enter hidden menu - 277634#*# you will see that VoLTE settings are active.
NOTE: If you're already rooted EUR software you may try:
1. Edit mmcblk02p22
2. Edit Cust files.
3. Flash over Three's 10D firmware.”
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...8&postcount=14
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