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Old 06-08-2016, 20:22
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Did you get the S7 from Three? Only Three purchased S7's work as it needs the Three software to access one of the bands.
They don't. Brother Moox has an unbranded, SIM free S7 edge and it worked fine on VoLTE out of the box.

It's also worked for someone on here with an unbranded S7 edge
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Old 06-08-2016, 20:25
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Oh ok good to know
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Old 09-08-2016, 14:46
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does anyone have the 3UK version of the LG G5? (To obtain carrier customisation for VoLTE)
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Old 09-08-2016, 15:10
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Old 09-08-2016, 15:15
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ok. the firmware on its own won't be enough, still need the carrier folder from the root of the phone...do you/ anyone who posts here have a 3UK LG G5...that is rooted?
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Old 09-08-2016, 15:37
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Unlikely. Very unlikely.
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Old 10-08-2016, 01:02
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This has to be my best 4G speed test on Three so far.

https://goo.gl/photos/rEDrMmkAwvvSw1SC9

And what was even more surprising was that inTouch told me I had 4G calling enabled! Does that mean Three is testing VoLTE on 1800MHz in public? Because that sure as hell wasn't 800MHz!

This was outside Legoland, Windsor on Monday morning. Speeds were way quicker than EE in the same place (and Vodafone was much like parts of London these days - really slow, albeit not so slow you couldn't use it for most purposes).
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Old 10-08-2016, 09:22
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This has to be my best 4G speed test on Three so far.

https://goo.gl/photos/rEDrMmkAwvvSw1SC9

And what was even more surprising was that inTouch told me I had 4G calling enabled! Does that mean Three is testing VoLTE on 1800MHz in public? Because that sure as hell wasn't 800MHz!

This was outside Legoland, Windsor on Monday morning. Speeds were way quicker than EE in the same place (and Vodafone was much like parts of London these days - really slow, albeit not so slow you couldn't use it for most purposes).
I've had similar speeds at Alton Towers and that's in the middle of nowhere. Vodafone and O2 only had 3G. It was the same with Blackpool Pleasure Beach with great speeds all day. I think they were using a Hutchinson Jupiter Dual Stack mast which was right next to the park. I've been going to these places expecting to be disappointed with speeds and then completely blown away by them.
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:36
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I've had similar speeds at Alton Towers and that's in the middle of nowhere. Vodafone and O2 only had 3G. It was the same with Blackpool Pleasure Beach with great speeds all day. I think they were using a Hutchinson Jupiter Dual Stack mast which was right next to the park. I've been going to these places expecting to be disappointed with speeds and then completely blown away by them.
It makes sense to have good speed at these types of places as the first thing people are going to be doing all day long is taking pictures and videos and uploading them to facebook.
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:32
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Seems like MBNL are going on an upgrading spree of all the ex-orange sites here. The old legacy 2G pylon mast down the valley has been completely overhauled with EE/Three 3G & 4G, Three 4G was there but wouldn't connect and so was EE 4G. Definitely has only been enabled in the last 24 hours as it definitely wasn't there on Tuesday. Can only guess 4G is still being tested?

Another 4 planning applications put in for masts along the coast (2 in the area where i got the horrendous speeds! Yay! ). Both with 800, 1800 and 2100 according to the applications.
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:00
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New feel at home destinations
https://recombu.com/mobile/article/t...ome-roaming-uk
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:14
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So basically covering Europe which they have to anyway.

Remind me how this beats Vodafone (or soon to be EE)?
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:56
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So basically covering Europe which they have to anyway.

Remind me how this beats Vodafone (or soon to be EE)?
It's in areas that are not in the others. Isle of Man, Gibraltar maybe (?), Iceland maybe (?), Channel Islands plus the others from the earlier list, the USA, Australia, NZ, Hong Kong, Isreal, Indonesia.

However it's not really feel at home or 4G roaming on the other hand.

It's good that they're doing it though, keeps the pressure on the others.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:27
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The non-European roaming aspect is certainly better than nothing. For the EU I'd sooner be with Vodafone or EE.

If either do something worldwide in the future, where does Three go from there? It needs to do 4G speed and stop throttling.

Or throttle for free and charge for full access.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:39
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So basically covering Europe which they have to anyway.

Remind me how this beats Vodafone (or soon to be EE)?
Well, it's "free" and for a lot of people who just want to post on The Facebook or The Twitter then it probably sounds great.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:03
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Well, it's "free" and for a lot of people who just want to post on The Facebook or The Twitter then it probably sounds great.
Exactly, Three is a consumer network. 99% of people just want to access those kind of things when away on holiday.

It would be perfectly suitable and welcome for my needs, looking on a map, finding a place or checking in with home online.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:28
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Seems like MBNL are going on an upgrading spree of all the ex-orange sites here. The old legacy 2G pylon mast down the valley has been completely overhauled with EE/Three 3G & 4G, Three 4G was there but wouldn't connect and so was EE 4G. Definitely has only been enabled in the last 24 hours as it definitely wasn't there on Tuesday. Can only guess 4G is still being tested?
I'll concur with a lot of stuff going on with ex-OUK sites. I'm in an area that has virtually complete ex-OUK & MBNL coverage (Yate for those who know Bristol) but I've had more network problems over the past 5 weeks than in many years. Including one legacy-OUK cell left on-air but not taking calls for well over a fortnight.

It does all tally with ex-OUK being upgraded into MBNL
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Old 11-08-2016, 20:20
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Seems to be a bit of ex-Orange movement here too.

I suddenly got indoor coverage a few months ago and the town centre Orange 2G mast got planning proved today for the MBNL and EE4G treatment.

I wonder if the 3 legal threats have helped move it on or if it's coincidence?
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Old 11-08-2016, 20:54
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I've had similar speeds at Alton Towers and that's in the middle of nowhere. Vodafone and O2 only had 3G.
In fairness to Voda/O2 they were the first to submit planning applications for 4G upgrades at Alton Towers (13/08/2015), but because the building has listed status and is in a conservation area (double whammy!) it took almost 11 months to be finally approved on 08/07/2016.

This email chain is an interesting insight into just how complicated and time consuming it can be to obtain planning permission for upgrades when dealing with listed status/conservation issue.

By comparison, EE/H3G submitted a planning application on 09/12/2015 and had approval in just 4 months on 01/04/2016. It looks like H3G is live although EE isn't yet; perhaps waiting for backhaul?

I do sometimes wonder whether EE/H3G is more efficient at submitting/managing planning applications, and whether that might explain why Voda/O2 upgrades seem quite slow by comparison.

EE/H3G also submitted a very detailed datasheet about the tri-band antennas they are using which is an interesting read if you are interested in the specifications.
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Old 11-08-2016, 21:53
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Hi Guys,
I am considering buying another phone to take advantage of the Three B20 coverage that has become available. Looking at the Three website it seems that only a handful of phones can take advantage of the native VOLTE capabilities and then there is the very sad looking list of the devices that can use VOLTE via the InTouch app, I mean
the Galaxy Ace 3 is supported but the P9 isn't - WTF!

So is the Three list of supported phones definitive? Can I not use it with any device that has B20 supported in the modem? Anyway to frig it?

PS, I have searched for these answers but there is nothing definitive and a lot of the results lead to here but 200 pages is a lot to read.

Many Thanks
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:04
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In fairness to Voda/O2 they were the first to submit planning applications for 4G upgrades at Alton Towers (13/08/2015), but because the building has listed status and is in a conservation area (double whammy!) it took almost 11 months to be finally approved on 08/07/2016.

This email chain is an interesting insight into just how complicated and time consuming it can be to obtain planning permission for upgrades when dealing with listed status/conservation issue.

By comparison, EE/H3G submitted a planning application on 09/12/2015 and had approval in just 4 months on 01/04/2016. It looks like H3G is live although EE isn't yet; perhaps waiting for backhaul?

I do sometimes wonder whether EE/H3G is more efficient at submitting/managing planning applications, and whether that might explain why Voda/O2 upgrades seem quite slow by comparison.

EE/H3G also submitted a very detailed datasheet about the tri-band antennas they are using which is an interesting read if you are interested in the specifications.
Some of the applications I've seen from V/O2 are certainly guilty of complacency when it comes to there content, they basically shoved a load of standard apps for 15-20m huawei Jupiter poles to replace all sorts of custom built masts like mock telegraph & tree trunk types in sensitive areas, little information and detail just the standard radio waves information pack, most were rejected and took months of reapplications to get through, some never have!
Best one I've seen was a church which has 2 discreet colors matched panels hidden on the sides which provides 2g coverage in a village which is a blackspot for most networks, they put in a application to basically cover it in panels, cables and boxes, no finness or real attempt to conceal it all. As it's the iconic land mark of the village, surprise surprise it was rejected, 2 years on, still no further forward.
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:07
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This has to be my best 4G speed test on Three so far.

https://goo.gl/photos/rEDrMmkAwvvSw1SC9

And what was even more surprising was that inTouch told me I had 4G calling enabled! Does that mean Three is testing VoLTE on 1800MHz in public? Because that sure as hell wasn't 800MHz!

This was outside Legoland, Windsor on Monday morning. Speeds were way quicker than EE in the same place (and Vodafone was much like parts of London these days - really slow, albeit not so slow you couldn't use it for most purposes).
I have been getting reports from the public that 3 is doing VoLTE on 1800 without the app on certain devices
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Old 12-08-2016, 10:33
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I have been getting reports from the public that 3 is doing VoLTE on 1800 without the app on certain devices
Did you see my speed test earlier this week where 4G calling was active? Getting over 90Mbps suggests that wasn't 800!
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Old 12-08-2016, 12:19
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In fairness to Voda/O2 they were the first to submit planning applications for 4G upgrades at Alton Towers (13/08/2015), but because the building has listed status and is in a conservation area (double whammy!) it took almost 11 months to be finally approved on 08/07/2016.

This email chain is an interesting insight into just how complicated and time consuming it can be to obtain planning permission for upgrades when dealing with listed status/conservation issue.

By comparison, EE/H3G submitted a planning application on 09/12/2015 and had approval in just 4 months on 01/04/2016. It looks like H3G is live although EE isn't yet; perhaps waiting for backhaul?

I do sometimes wonder whether EE/H3G is more efficient at submitting/managing planning applications, and whether that might explain why Voda/O2 upgrades seem quite slow by comparison.

EE/H3G also submitted a very detailed datasheet about the tri-band antennas they are using which is an interesting read if you are interested in the specifications.

It shouldn't be to do with backhaul as they'll definitely both be using BT backhaul in that location.
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Old 12-08-2016, 12:30
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I have been getting reports from the public that 3 is doing VoLTE on 1800 without the app on certain devices
Not tried yet today but nothing on my three LG G4C yesterday. still only 800mhz VoLTE here in the north Midlands
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