No 1800 VoLTE on my LG G4. I have noticed recently that my phone seems to prefer being on 4G 800 than 3G from my home signal box, it'll only connect to the signal box when it looses 800, which seems to be never atm. Can actually walk around the house and keep hold of 800.
Three 4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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I'm still forever switching flight mode on and off. Where I live the 3g has always been usable with one or 2 bars of signal but after flight mode I always go onto 4G800. It'll stay on it for quite a while sometimes to be fair and it usually always stays on when I'm downloading. I'm fairly happy with the way things are (but I am looking forward to upgrading to the X Performance and not having to use TinT) until the 1800 power gets turned up in 2025.
What confuses me is, don't you have wifi where you live? I thought that most people at home would just use wifi and then use the mobile data for when you're out.
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“What confuses me is, don't you have wifi where you live? I thought that most people at home would just use wifi and then use the mobile data for when you're out.”
“What confuses me is, don't you have wifi where you live? I thought that most people at home would just use wifi and then use the mobile data for when you're out.”
Well it seems some people have really low download limits on their home broadband. I've heard of people actually turning the wifi off on their phone and using 4G because they're scared of going over their usage allowance on their broadband!
Originally Posted by Icaraa:
“Well it seems some people have really low download limits on their home broadband. I've heard of people actually turning the wifi off on their phone and using 4G because they're scared of going over their usage allowance on their broadband!”
“Well it seems some people have really low download limits on their home broadband. I've heard of people actually turning the wifi off on their phone and using 4G because they're scared of going over their usage allowance on their broadband!”
The sad thing is that a lot of those people could upgrade to a sensible usage allowance (or even unlimited) for only a couple of quid more per month, but their desire to chase the absolute cheapest price gives them a service they can barely use!
Originally Posted by Icaraa:
“Well it seems some people have really low download limits on their home broadband. I've heard of people actually turning the wifi off on their phone and using 4G because they're scared of going over their usage allowance on their broadband!”
“Well it seems some people have really low download limits on their home broadband. I've heard of people actually turning the wifi off on their phone and using 4G because they're scared of going over their usage allowance on their broadband!”
Really? I thought most fixed line BB services were unlimited - I must be out of touch!
However, I represent the other group that prefer to use mobile data at home where possible - because fixed line solutions where I live struggle to deliver 1.5 Mbps...
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“What confuses me is, don't you have wifi where you live? I thought that most people at home would just use wifi and then use the mobile data for when you're out.”
“What confuses me is, don't you have wifi where you live? I thought that most people at home would just use wifi and then use the mobile data for when you're out.”
I have WiFi but TinT is the most unreliable thing I've ever used, Sometimes the calls and messages come through as they should on TinT, sometimes they come through on the weak 3G and are soon dropped and other times they just don't come through at all. Three really should have implemented WiFi calling properly.
Originally Posted by _m:
“I have WiFi but TinT is the most unreliable thing I've ever used, Sometimes the calls and messages come through as they should on TinT, sometimes they come through on the weak 3G and are soon dropped and other times they just don't come through at all. Three really should have implemented WiFi calling properly.”
“I have WiFi but TinT is the most unreliable thing I've ever used, Sometimes the calls and messages come through as they should on TinT, sometimes they come through on the weak 3G and are soon dropped and other times they just don't come through at all. Three really should have implemented WiFi calling properly.”
Indeed. I don't think I'll be moving back until they do a proper job with WiFi calling. My new house has abysmal coverage downstairs but WiFi calling on EE makes it a non-issue.
Originally Posted by _m:
“I have WiFi but TinT is the most unreliable thing I've ever used, Sometimes the calls and messages come through as they should on TinT, sometimes they come through on the weak 3G and are soon dropped and other times they just don't come through at all. Three really should have implemented WiFi calling properly.”
“I have WiFi but TinT is the most unreliable thing I've ever used, Sometimes the calls and messages come through as they should on TinT, sometimes they come through on the weak 3G and are soon dropped and other times they just don't come through at all. Three really should have implemented WiFi calling properly.”
Maybe your internet isn't very good. My pingtest.net is A with minimal jitter and I have a decent buffalo router with QoS 5ghz AC, makes a massive difference to have a good router and connection I think.
However I was referring to Wi-Fi for data at home.
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Maybe your internet isn't very good. My pingtest.net is A with minimal jitter and I have a decent buffalo router with QoS 5ghz AC, makes a massive difference to have a good router and connection I think.
However I was referring to Wi-Fi for data at home.”
“Maybe your internet isn't very good. My pingtest.net is A with minimal jitter and I have a decent buffalo router with QoS 5ghz AC, makes a massive difference to have a good router and connection I think.
However I was referring to Wi-Fi for data at home.”
Won't be my internet. 250Mbps FTTP line giving 10ms latency, 0ms jitter, and 0% packet loss over a Ruckus wireless setup and Cisco router. TinT is the same on a 100Mbps leased line while native WiFi calling on both Voda and EE work completely fine on both networks.
It's all well and good being able to use data at home/work but having to leave the building and walk half a mile down the road if you want to make a call/text someone and know that it will arrive/not drop is just ridiculous, especially when there's an L08 layer sat there that you can't reliably get onto despite site density in your are being more than good enough to raise it up.
I found inTouch worked better on some phones than others. This MIGHT be why 4G Calling isn't offered on some phones, but of course it shouldn't be on those where it doesn't work properly either!
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“What confuses me is, don't you have wifi where you live? I thought that most people at home would just use wifi and then use the mobile data for when you're out.”
“What confuses me is, don't you have wifi where you live? I thought that most people at home would just use wifi and then use the mobile data for when you're out.”
I live in a log cabin in my dad's garden and the WiFi doesn't reach down there very well so Three suits all my requirements really. We all have access to wifi at work and I still choose to use my mobile network over that.
Originally Posted by Informationwar:
“I live in a log cabin in my dad's garden and the WiFi doesn't reach down there very well so Three suits all my requirements really. We all have access to wifi at work and I still choose to use my mobile network over that.”
“I live in a log cabin in my dad's garden and the WiFi doesn't reach down there very well so Three suits all my requirements really. We all have access to wifi at work and I still choose to use my mobile network over that.”
OMG forget the wifi issues, how amazing.
You are cool!
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Wouldn't the signal pass through wood quite well?!”
“Wouldn't the signal pass through wood quite well?!”
I get the impression it's distance, rather than what's in between that's the problem...
How does the TinT app integrate with iOS? Is it better than the Android one? Getting a bit few up with my Android phone and fancy an SE pretty soon. Might just stick with 3's 321 for a while until EE sort 800 properly.
Do you still have the separate dialer / inbox etc? Also what about text notifications? Proper or just a tiny icon at the top?
Do you still have the separate dialer / inbox etc? Also what about text notifications? Proper or just a tiny icon at the top?
Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“How does the TinT app integrate with iOS? Is it better than the Android one? Getting a bit few up with my Android phone and fancy an SE pretty soon. Might just stick with 3's 321 for a while until EE sort 800 properly.
Do you still have the separate dialer / inbox etc? Also what about text notifications? Proper or just a tiny icon at the top?”
“How does the TinT app integrate with iOS? Is it better than the Android one? Getting a bit few up with my Android phone and fancy an SE pretty soon. Might just stick with 3's 321 for a while until EE sort 800 properly.
Do you still have the separate dialer / inbox etc? Also what about text notifications? Proper or just a tiny icon at the top?”
Terribly. It seems to be completely random as to whether messages and calls come through normally, over TinT, both of them, or just completely disappear.
Everything's completely separate between the app and the native messages/calls apps.
Originally Posted by _m:
“Terribly. It seems to be completely random as to whether messages and calls come through normally, over TinT, both of them, or just completely disappear.
Everything's completely separate between the app and the native messages/calls apps.”
“Terribly. It seems to be completely random as to whether messages and calls come through normally, over TinT, both of them, or just completely disappear.
Everything's completely separate between the app and the native messages/calls apps.”
What iOS device do you have as you shouldn't need TiT on Apple.
I didn't see anyone report this from the other week.
http://www.threemediacentre.co.uk/ne...6-results.aspx
Is the switch from population to indoor coverage a clever way to mask the lower 4G coverage which Three has? Presumably they could eventually reach 100% indoor coverage, but still only cover 75% of the population with 4G.
Also if Three have ~15k masts, then 1950 of them have 800MHz. If they have ~18k then 2340 of them have 800MHz.
Quote:
“Indoor coverage has increased from 80% in June 2013 to 92% in June 2016, despite 800MHz spectrum only being rolled out to 13% of the network. We expect indoor coverage to increase to 95% by the end of the year, meaning an additional 4 million people will have been able to access Three’s network indoors in 2016.”
“Indoor coverage has increased from 80% in June 2013 to 92% in June 2016, despite 800MHz spectrum only being rolled out to 13% of the network. We expect indoor coverage to increase to 95% by the end of the year, meaning an additional 4 million people will have been able to access Three’s network indoors in 2016.”
http://www.threemediacentre.co.uk/ne...6-results.aspx
Is the switch from population to indoor coverage a clever way to mask the lower 4G coverage which Three has? Presumably they could eventually reach 100% indoor coverage, but still only cover 75% of the population with 4G.
Also if Three have ~15k masts, then 1950 of them have 800MHz. If they have ~18k then 2340 of them have 800MHz.
Also another interesting tidbit
http://smartchimps.com/smart-news/ac...-for-three-uk/
0.08% Sounds pretty pathetic, I presume EE are already higher than this? Although one out of every 125 would be 0.8% wouldn't it, so not sure what's correct here. The article is also littered with other errors so this may be one to take with a pinch of salt.
Quote:
“However, Waton noted that around 0.08% of calls made through its network in the UK are now VoLTE. “That doesn’t sound like much, but that’s one out every 125,” he said.”
“However, Waton noted that around 0.08% of calls made through its network in the UK are now VoLTE. “That doesn’t sound like much, but that’s one out every 125,” he said.”
http://smartchimps.com/smart-news/ac...-for-three-uk/
0.08% Sounds pretty pathetic, I presume EE are already higher than this? Although one out of every 125 would be 0.8% wouldn't it, so not sure what's correct here. The article is also littered with other errors so this may be one to take with a pinch of salt.
Originally Posted by Denco1:
“Also another interesting tidbit
http://smartchimps.com/smart-news/ac...-for-three-uk/
0.08% Sounds pretty pathetic, I presume EE are already higher than this? Although one out of every 125 would be 0.8% wouldn't it, so not sure what's correct here. The article is also littered with other errors so this may be one to take with a pinch of salt.”
“Also another interesting tidbit
http://smartchimps.com/smart-news/ac...-for-three-uk/
0.08% Sounds pretty pathetic, I presume EE are already higher than this? Although one out of every 125 would be 0.8% wouldn't it, so not sure what's correct here. The article is also littered with other errors so this may be one to take with a pinch of salt.”
We shouldn't forget that it isn't designed to be the primary voice service, the way it was deployed was to improve coverage. If you have good 4G 1800 or 2100 3G connection it'll prefer that.
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Supervoice is at 60% population coverage, so it's sounds like a troll article to me, especially as you say it is littered with other errors.”
“Supervoice is at 60% population coverage, so it's sounds like a troll article to me, especially as you say it is littered with other errors.”
Three's own website does state supervoice coverage is at 65%. To be perfectly honest 0.8% of calls being VoLTE wouldn't surprise me, 0.08% sounds very low but 0.8% sounds roughly on the money due to the way the network is configured.
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“We shouldn't forget that it isn't designed to be the primary voice service, the way it was deployed was to improve coverage. If you have good 4G 1800 or 2100 3G connection it'll prefer that.”
“We shouldn't forget that it isn't designed to be the primary voice service, the way it was deployed was to improve coverage. If you have good 4G 1800 or 2100 3G connection it'll prefer that.”
But if indoor coverage has increased by 12% in the last 3yrs, you'd hope the usage of VoLTE was closer to that figure than the lacklustre reported 0.8%?
This is where statistics can be misleading, just because indoor coverage had increased 12% donesn't necessarily mean that the number of calls made in those locations will increase by 12%.
We're talking about nearly 1% of all calls total, the vast majority of calls probably aren't made in indoor former blackspot areas. As 800 coverage continues to grow and the priorities get tweaked I think we'll just see a gradual improvement. I stupidly bought an LG v10 from Germany, wish I'd bought an official Three phone, if the V20 comes out in the UK I'll consider it if it' supported by Three.
That slight extra 800 could come in useful, I have tested 800 on my LG G3 with TinT and it does make a difference, I have made VoLTE calls and been able to get 4G in a hotel room where I would have otherwise only had 3G (by forcing it).
We're talking about nearly 1% of all calls total, the vast majority of calls probably aren't made in indoor former blackspot areas. As 800 coverage continues to grow and the priorities get tweaked I think we'll just see a gradual improvement. I stupidly bought an LG v10 from Germany, wish I'd bought an official Three phone, if the V20 comes out in the UK I'll consider it if it' supported by Three.
That slight extra 800 could come in useful, I have tested 800 on my LG G3 with TinT and it does make a difference, I have made VoLTE calls and been able to get 4G in a hotel room where I would have otherwise only had 3G (by forcing it).
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