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Three 4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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Brian The Dog
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by InfamousTeal:
“Yeah I'd speak to them. Is it definitely a UK mobile or landline you're calling? Intl or premium rate lines will come out of credit.”

Ah! Now that's an interesting piece of information that I didn't know.

I was actually phoning up St John Ambulance about a training course and put on infinite hold. I just got through to a real person who was about to take my credit card details when I got cut off and had to start the process all over again after I topped up my basic credit.

I wonder if a charity is charging premium rates?
d123
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by Brian The Dog:
“Ah! Now that's an interesting piece of information that I didn't know.

I was actually phoning up St John Ambulance about a training course and put on infinite hold. I just got through to a real person who was about to take my credit card details when I got cut off and had to start the process all over again after I topped up my basic credit.

I wonder if a charity is charging premium rates?”

I presume you called 08447704800?

If you had looked on SayNoTo0870 there is an alternative - 0161 4434311 which is listed as:
Quote:
“Customer Services for enquiries about Workplace Training courses, including First Aid and Health & Safety”

http://www.saynoto0870.com/numbersearch.php
Brian The Dog
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“I presume you called 08447704800?

If you had looked on SayNoTo0870 there is an alternative - 0161 4434311 which is listed as:


http://www.saynoto0870.com/numbersearch.php”

Ah! Most helpful! Many thanks for the info.

Kinda disgusting that a Charity is using a premium rate number for people they want to attract to pay them even more money for their training courses. (And we are talking hundreds of pounds not a tenner!)

Thank you; I'll note down that number for future use.
d123
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by Brian The Dog:
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Thank you; I'll note down that number for future use.”

Might also be useful to make a note of the web link

It has alternatives for many 084x and 087x numbers which are charged at extortionate rates by all providers.
Brian The Dog
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“Might also be useful to make a note of the web link

It has alternatives for many 084x and 087x numbers which are charged at extortionate rates by all providers.”

Yes indeed I will!

I just thought that contacting a charity to buy one of their services would be at charged at most at a standard rate, not one that rips off people who they want as customers paying them hundreds of pounds.

Lesson learnt!
InfamousTeal
18-09-2016
0844 numbers will cost unfortunately.

In future, if you have to ring one (or any other premium number), use the link posted by d123 above and find an alternative.

If the number starts with 080 then it's free
maxsquared
19-09-2016
There is a carrier update 25.1 out, anyone notice any difference?
Graeme89
20-09-2016
Has anyone else noticed 3 doing alot of work in most areas... At my work we got a new mast which I expected was going to be puting out 4g but if anything I think they have increased capacity as during peak hours it slowed down... But after them doing work for 3 days with a patchy signal they have more work planned for thursday could this be them now enabling 4G or possibly missed something
jonmorris
20-09-2016
Yes, major work on the 19th here and now saying it has been done and all working. Speed now down and I can't get 800 any more either. Very odd.

Perhaps the work isn't actually finished.
Graeme89
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Yes, major work on the 19th here and now saying it has been done and all working. Speed now down and I can't get 800 any more either. Very odd.

Perhaps the work isn't actually finished.”

Possibly... That happened to me also work was done yet they were still up the mast lol
Brian The Dog
20-09-2016
Originally Posted by maxsquared:
“There is a carrier update 25.1 out, anyone notice any difference?”

How do we get this? Or do we have to wait till they decide to send it to a particular model of phone?
jonmorris
21-09-2016
I wonder if I've found something else new on Three, after recent work. Namely that when doing some network testing, I got an error because the connection had changed.

From 3G to 4G. During a speed test.

So, is Three now able to hand you back over to 4G mid data flow? If so, that's great as it will stop you being shunted down to 3G never to return, until you stop streaming data.
frejus19
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“I think it is undergoing testing. I am certain I found this near Windsor a month or so ago, and have read other reports.

I'd hope it's a fairly easy thing to roll out given how quick EE managed it. But handset support is still an issue (like EE). Not everyone had an iPhone.”

Thanks for the info. I've not seen it on 1800MHz yet, but if you're right it might not be far away.
jo_m1
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by Graeme89:
“Has anyone else noticed 3 doing alot of work in most areas...”

I wish I could see more of that in Central London. The same spots that only have unusable 3G since 2 years still only have 3G (and we're talking central locations like Covent Garden).

However I've seen some 4G800 appear in some blackspots, but still not anywhere near the O2/Vodafone rollout of 4G800.
iTech
21-09-2016
Well....at last, after 2 years of having 4G in my town from EE, Vodafone and O2 (and despite the Three coverage chart showing that there is 4G coverage in the town), Three 4G gets switched on today. 90meg speed as well - zero to hero.....but I'll still be moving to EE.
Denco1
22-09-2016
http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Thre...=4g_supervoice
So it appears the LG G5 now has native WiFi calling, and the iPhone 7 is set to receive an update in the future.
Well done Three, slowly making steps in the right direction.
I wonder if cellular handoff works?
jonmorris
22-09-2016
Huawei has just rolled out a beta ROM for the Honor 5X which adds VoLTE. India only right now, but fingers crossed it will be rolled out globally and then other Honor and Huawei phones.
Freeview_Viewer
22-09-2016
Seems I can make/receive calls on 1800mhz 4G as of today. Work was done in my area today wa7 and signal has improved on 4G not 3G though. No HD logo on screen when I make a call either
ianradioian
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“I wonder if I've found something else new on Three, after recent work. Namely that when doing some network testing, I got an error because the connection had changed.

From 3G to 4G. During a speed test.

So, is Three now able to hand you back over to 4G mid data flow? If so, that's great as it will stop you being shunted down to 3G never to return, until you stop streaming data.”

Yes, my phone does this constantly mid-data flow if im downstairs, and sits on 4g upstairs. I can only presume it's getting 2 masts simultaneously?
mogzyboy
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Denco1:
“http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Thre...=4g_supervoice
So it appears the LG G5 now has native WiFi calling, and the iPhone 7 is set to receive an update in the future.
Well done Three, slowly making steps in the right direction.
I wonder if cellular handoff works?”

Excellent. I will now consider moving back when my EE contract ends next April.
Thine Wonk
23-09-2016
Just a note to say perfectly good speeds on feels like home or whatever it's called.

http://tinypic.com/r/2r40psk/9

23 down and 4 up
d123
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Just a note to say perfectly good speeds on feels like home or whatever it's called.

http://tinypic.com/r/2r40psk/9

23 down and 4 up”

You might want to go do some research, perhaps read Jon Morris's article and the comments following to get an idea.

Speed tests have always looked good, Three being the sneaky bastaards they are don't throttle speedtests so the casual user gets a false impression of how well Feel At Home works.


Edit
Here is Jon's original article:
https://jmcomms.com/2015/11/02/sort-...-like-at-home/

Note this bit:
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“The problem is Three is throttling data, cutting actual speeds to as little as 0.1 or 0.2 megabits when using it for many things. We’re talking 2G-like speeds here, which is often too slow for some services to work at all.

It’s weird that Three allows speed tests to run at ‘full throttle’, unless it’s to trick people into thinking everything is fine?”

Here is Jon's follow up article:
https://jmcomms.com/2015/11/05/three...-go-from-here/

And this year:
https://jmcomms.com/2016/03/17/anoth...l-at-home-yet/
Thine Wonk
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“You might want to go do some research, perhaps read Jon Morris's article and the comments following to get an idea.

Speed tests have always looked good, Three being the sneaky bastaards they are don't throttle speedtests so the casual user gets a false impression of how well Feel At Home works.”

Yeah of course, that's why I can steam twitch in 1080p 60 fps.

The latency is bad because it's all going back to the uk, but everything I need is working, I've been using maps and the browser, pretty much the essentials for holiday for navigating and getting around. I don't plan to do much more than that outside of the tests.
jonmorris
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Yeah of course, that's why I can steam twitch in 1080p 60 fps.

The latency is bad because it's all going back to the uk, but everything I need is working, I've been using maps and the browser, pretty much the essentials for holiday for navigating and getting around. I don't plan to do much more than that outside of the tests.”

Can you download NPerf and run it a couple of times and post a screen capture of the end results?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ester&hl=en_GB

I'd love to see how that scores for video streaming, in case by some miracle they've stopped blocking it.
d123
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Yeah of course, that's why I can steam twitch in 1080p 60 fps.

The latency is bad because it's all going back to the uk, but everything I need is working, I've been using maps and the browser, pretty much the essentials for holiday for navigating and getting around. I don't plan to do much more than that outside of the tests.”

You might want to video your abilities and let Jon know, it seems him (and every commentator who has commented on his website) are unable to do anything like that on Three while roaming.

You should feel lucky to be unique, perhaps it's a perk for being such a good promoter of the Three network
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