If it's anything like the G4, you'll need to root it to install the Three firmware properly. Flashing the KDZ won't actually "convert" the phone.
Three 4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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Three are DEFINITELY experimenting with VoLTE on 1800Mhz - been seeing it more and more in the last few days in the LE11 and LE12 areas - VoLTE icon on my S7 Edge and band 20 according to LTE Discovery! 👍
Does anyone have any idea when Volte can be used for any compatible device regardless of firmware. This is getting ridiculous. I've never had a problem with Three until now but when they're not carrying phones that other networks are and not allowing you to use all their services it's getting quite frustrating!
Originally Posted by Informationwar:
“Does anyone have any idea when Volte can be used for any compatible device regardless of firmware. This is getting ridiculous. I've never had a problem with Three until now but when they're not carrying phones that other networks are and not allowing you to use all their services it's getting quite frustrating!”
“Does anyone have any idea when Volte can be used for any compatible device regardless of firmware. This is getting ridiculous. I've never had a problem with Three until now but when they're not carrying phones that other networks are and not allowing you to use all their services it's getting quite frustrating!”
I'm not confident but hope they do, at least through 3iT.
I want to get Xperia XZ but buy the device.
Doesn't it defeat the object of buying directly if you're flashing it with all the bloatware?
Related question. Does anyone else have automatic network selection option removed from the operators list? It doesn't show on my Z2. Had to restore it once to get it off manual selection mode, a mistake I won't make again.
Three has a new ZTE handset coming and that has 4G SuperVoice (VoLTE) support but I am still none the wiser about the Huawei/Honor phones, many of which are exclusive to Three.
I am told that there's quite a sizeable IMS stack that needs to go in the firmware, hence the localised ROMs, but have to hope that there's a way to get all the settings for existing networks in the generic builds going forward. Easier for the manufacturers to do you'd assume.
Three (and EE) still have a LONG way to go. In the meantime, why isn't inTouch being upgraded to fill the gap on Three? So many devices could get support this way, and I am not against running an app if it has the same result.
I am told that there's quite a sizeable IMS stack that needs to go in the firmware, hence the localised ROMs, but have to hope that there's a way to get all the settings for existing networks in the generic builds going forward. Easier for the manufacturers to do you'd assume.
Three (and EE) still have a LONG way to go. In the meantime, why isn't inTouch being upgraded to fill the gap on Three? So many devices could get support this way, and I am not against running an app if it has the same result.
Agreed it is incredibly annoying and I don't know why In Touch doesn't just be made to work with everything out there, literally every handset known to man, surely there can't be too much support needed if it's an android thing. Even if the default was off and it was marked as experimental to enable.
Originally Posted by GavinAshford:
“Sorry, no, the roadworks were showing up as T-Mobile (I think). They needed to block a lane of traffic for the pole swap, so they were classed as roadworks. It was the associated planning applications were submitted by Daly for EE/Three.
"My" mast had no plans or roadworks as it's in its own compound and no additional cabinets etc were required to be installed.”
“Sorry, no, the roadworks were showing up as T-Mobile (I think). They needed to block a lane of traffic for the pole swap, so they were classed as roadworks. It was the associated planning applications were submitted by Daly for EE/Three.
"My" mast had no plans or roadworks as it's in its own compound and no additional cabinets etc were required to be installed.”
Ahh fair enough, so hopefully mine would show as T-Mobile then? It's a monopole so they'll probably need to block the road. Thanks for your help!
Originally Posted by Skie:
“Seeing 4G more frequently with my 7 Plus now. Getting it reliably at home now but in Liverpool it's still mostly 3G, perhaps they are having to fix it mast by mast?”
“Seeing 4G more frequently with my 7 Plus now. Getting it reliably at home now but in Liverpool it's still mostly 3G, perhaps they are having to fix it mast by mast?”
It's still way too infrequent given we're a) a month after launch now & b) iOS 10.0.2 is out with no fix. When I spoke to an engineer, before 10.0.2, they said the solution would be in the next release. It isn't.
Is this in contravention of our contracts?
Originally Posted by botson_is_whack:
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Is this in contravention of our contracts?”
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Is this in contravention of our contracts?”
No
Why would you even think that?
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Agreed it is incredibly annoying and I don't know why In Touch doesn't just be made to work with everything out there, literally every handset known to man, surely there can't be too much support needed if it's an android thing. Even if the default was off and it was marked as experimental to enable.”
“Agreed it is incredibly annoying and I don't know why In Touch doesn't just be made to work with everything out there, literally every handset known to man, surely there can't be too much support needed if it's an android thing. Even if the default was off and it was marked as experimental to enable.”
There must be something stopping them and making things harder then it seems. The Moto E for example 'supports' L08 access thought TinT but I, and two others, have never got it working and on the rare occasion that it does get on L08, calls and texts just fail in the app.
How the OnePlus One supports it via 4G makes no sense as that phone doesn't support 800MHz!
I really am hoping the Pixel phones will work with it. Am I right in saying that like EE, the unified carrier system on Android should work wirh Three?
I really am hoping the Pixel phones will work with it. Am I right in saying that like EE, the unified carrier system on Android should work wirh Three?
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Agreed it is incredibly annoying and I don't know why In Touch doesn't just be made to work with everything out there, literally every handset known to man, surely there can't be too much support needed if it's an android thing. Even if the default was off and it was marked as experimental to enable.”
“Agreed it is incredibly annoying and I don't know why In Touch doesn't just be made to work with everything out there, literally every handset known to man, surely there can't be too much support needed if it's an android thing. Even if the default was off and it was marked as experimental to enable.”
There's apparently an issue with dual SIM phones, but surely not insurmountable?
For my Nexus 6P, I can't figure out why I don't have the option. The Nexus 5 can run inTouch!
I know Three won't offer inTouch on a phone that has a ROM to add native support, but while I was told last December that Huawei was going to do a VoLTE update in Q1 this year, it never happened. But it seems that Three must think it is still going to happen, so has never just made inTouch work.
Bloody frustrating that I'd need to put my SIM in an old phone (Z3, G3, Nexus 5) to use VoLTE and 800MHz 4G!
Originally Posted by MatthiasSchilf:
“Three are DEFINITELY experimenting with VoLTE on 1800Mhz - been seeing it more and more in the last few days in the LE11 and LE12 areas - VoLTE icon on my S7 Edge and band 20 according to LTE Discovery! 👍”
“Three are DEFINITELY experimenting with VoLTE on 1800Mhz - been seeing it more and more in the last few days in the LE11 and LE12 areas - VoLTE icon on my S7 Edge and band 20 according to LTE Discovery! 👍”
Band 20 is 800Mhz though.
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“How the OnePlus One supports it via 4G makes no sense as that phone doesn't support 800MHz!
I really am hoping the Pixel phones will work with it. Am I right in saying that like EE, the unified carrier system on Android should work wirh Three?”
“How the OnePlus One supports it via 4G makes no sense as that phone doesn't support 800MHz!
I really am hoping the Pixel phones will work with it. Am I right in saying that like EE, the unified carrier system on Android should work wirh Three?”
If EE is getting the IMS stack put on the generic phone, that doesn't mean it will work for Three - which isn't selling the phones.
I know Huawei is rolling out trial firmware in some regions for VoLTE, but it's only for those regions (and individual networks) so it seems that a day when a phone ships with support for all known VoLTE compatible networks, with a way to do further updates OTA like data settings, is still way off.
Given how important VoLTE is for networks, especially Three and EE given the benefits 800 offers each of them, I am amazed it seems to have been a low priority this year. But it looks like things might be starting to improve.
Originally Posted by jo_m1:
“Band 20 is 800Mhz though.”
“Band 20 is 800Mhz though.”
Oops, my bad. Thought it was too good to be true! 😂
Originally Posted by MatthiasSchilf:
“Oops, my bad. Thought it was too good to be true! 😂”
“Oops, my bad. Thought it was too good to be true! 😂”
Three is testing VoLTE on 1800 though, and in some places it is believed they've swapped the priority so 800 4G is over 2100 3G.
Who knows if this is merely testing or a planned change nationally in the future.
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Three is testing VoLTE on 1800 though, and in some places it is believed they've swapped the priority so 800 4G is over 2100 3G.
Who knows if this is merely testing or a planned change nationally in the future.”
“Three is testing VoLTE on 1800 though, and in some places it is believed they've swapped the priority so 800 4G is over 2100 3G.
Who knows if this is merely testing or a planned change nationally in the future.”
Disclaimer: I don't work in the mobile industry, so this is just the supposition based on reading around here!
Three are very publicly declaring their difficulties with spectrum, so I'd imagine they're investigating how to make the most of their current allocation (as well as tugging on Ofcom's sleeve to try and fix the issue).
Since data forms a significant percentage of the traffic on their network and 4G is more spectrum-efficient than 3G (ie for a given Mhz band, you'd get more throughput filling it with 4G than 3G), I would not be surprised to see Three investigating ways to get all the 4G capable devices to use 4G as much of the time as possible.
I do wonder whether (if even possible) they're going to look to assign less spectrum to 3G, bidding farewell to DC-HSDPA+ in the process, and deploy some 4G2100. I would speculate that the heavy phone users will all be on 4G-capable devices now, therefore the amount of data required by those whose phones are only able to manage 3G is shrinking with every passing month.
The ultimate endgame here might well be their 4G1800 network as their main blanket coverage, like EE, with 4G800 for range and in building penetration, plus 4G2100 providing additional capacity - and an increasingly thin slither of 3G2100 to handle voice and (now slower) data from those without 4G capable handsets.
What do you folks reckon, do you think this sounds plausible? Or is it all a bunch of cobblers?
Sounds fair to me. DC-HSPA was great in its day, but congestion has made 3G a nightmare for many. Good speeds one day, no data the next - in the same location.
So refarming to 4G is ideal.
And for more spectrum, Three can moan or open its wallet and bid enough to win more in the next auction.
So refarming to 4G is ideal.
And for more spectrum, Three can moan or open its wallet and bid enough to win more in the next auction.
Originally Posted by d123:
“I think it was said you became an undertaker, are you enjoying it?
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“I think it was said you became an undertaker, are you enjoying it?
”
Haha. I can tell you that isn't true :P
But I am enjoying my current role
Please excuse my ignorance,but I thought I needed to be in a 4G area to have 4G super voice. But when I check my home and work address on the Three coverage checker both state only 3G coverage is available,but both also state I'm in a 4G super voice area!? Confused.
Originally Posted by bampsam:
“Please excuse my ignorance,but I thought I needed to be in a 4G area to have 4G super voice. But when I check my home and work address on the Three coverage checker both state only 3G coverage is available,but both also state I'm in a 4G super voice area!? Confused.”
“Please excuse my ignorance,but I thought I needed to be in a 4G area to have 4G super voice. But when I check my home and work address on the Three coverage checker both state only 3G coverage is available,but both also state I'm in a 4G super voice area!? Confused.”
It it's available but it's device dependent and the coverage map will change depending on the device you put in.
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Sounds fair to me. DC-HSPA was great in its day, but congestion has made 3G a nightmare for many. Good speeds one day, no data the next - in the same location.
So refarming to 4G is ideal.
And for more spectrum, Three can moan or open its wallet and bid enough to win more in the next auction.”
“Sounds fair to me. DC-HSPA was great in its day, but congestion has made 3G a nightmare for many. Good speeds one day, no data the next - in the same location.
So refarming to 4G is ideal.
And for more spectrum, Three can moan or open its wallet and bid enough to win more in the next auction.”
If I remember rightly 3 have 2x15mhz U2100. So technically they could re farm 5mhz of 3g to 4G then as traffic moves to 4G then re farm another 5mhz. Leaving 5mhz 3g.
2x15 mhz 4g1800
2x5 mhz 4g800
2x10 mhz 4g2100
Combine those with 2CA or 3CA and you can achieve some pretty good speeds and capacity.
Originally Posted by jamrolu:
“iOS 10.0.3 / iOS 10.1 Beta 4 seem to have fixed the iPhone 7 vs Three 4G issue for me.”
“iOS 10.0.3 / iOS 10.1 Beta 4 seem to have fixed the iPhone 7 vs Three 4G issue for me.”
Installing it now. Will feed back tomorrow.
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