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Three 4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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biggy7
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by radii:
“Just answered you on XDA.
Supervoice/wifi does not work in sim free LG G5.
Flashing the 3UK software doesn't make it work either.

It needs more system level/ root work...which I could potentially do....
Anyone have 3UK LG G5, which they are prepared to root/share?”

Thanks mate. Glad I didn't go for a sim free g5, went for g5 on Three (used),
CheshireBumpkin
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by moox:
“There is also a lot of Openreach FTTP in Cornwall (something like 1/3rd of homes). Unfortunately it's a textbook postcode lottery, so much so that your neighbour across the road can get it but not you. Or you might actually be in a more densely populated area and have nothing, or have crappy FTTC, but Farmer Giles on his many acres can have 330Mbit FTTP for £50 a month if he likes.”

It's a bizarre situation!
_m
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Richard1960:
“[b]

Whats that are you willy waving then?

Grow up its nothing to do with willy waving more to do with letting people know the deal i am on if you've got a deal good on you.!”

*stops waving willy*
Gigabit
24-11-2016
Originally Posted by radii:
“Just answered you on XDA.
Supervoice/wifi does not work in sim free LG G5.
Flashing the 3UK software doesn't make it work either.

It needs more system level/ root work...which I could potentially do....
Anyone have 3UK LG G5, which they are prepared to root/share?”

Somebody got it working on the LG G4. Perhaps the same thing would work on the G5?
radii
24-11-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“Somebody got it working on the LG G4. Perhaps the same thing would work on the G5?”

My thinking is similar.... the G4 mods on the G5 doesn't work. Need to see the files on the 3UK LG G5....anyone have one with root?
biggy7
25-11-2016
just an update.

i got the G5 today, its got 3 software on it, i updated to latest software OTA, all seems well.

what im finding is Wifi Calling only works when in Aeroplane mode! cant believe it!

I have factory reset it to no avail.

not sure what to try now, i know three in touch app works but do not want to use this. looks like there is a bug somewhere :\
georgi_prodanov
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by biggy7:
“just an update.

i got the G5 today, its got 3 software on it, i updated to latest software OTA, all seems well.

what im finding is Wifi Calling only works when in Aeroplane mode! cant believe it!

I have factory reset it to no avail.

not sure what to try now, i know three in touch app works but do not want to use this. looks like there is a bug somewhere :\”

I think WIFI Calling will only work if there is no signal on the netwoork. I did read that on their website where wifi calling is. So that is why it works when you are on airplane mode as there is no signal. If you catch only one bar of mobile signal wifi calling will disappear
biggy7
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“I think WIFI Calling will only work if there is no signal on the netwoork. I did read that on their website where wifi calling is. So that is why it works when you are on airplane mode as there is no signal. If you catch only one bar of mobile signal wifi calling will disappear”

ahh! i see, this is not like EE's wifi calling then where it uses it first (which im used to with my S7 Edge and EE sim)

anyone concur? (just so that i stop trying to troubleshoot!)

thanks for the heads up.

EDIT:

http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI-...obj%2813306%29

Quote:
“Your phone will use Wi-Fi Calling when there is no coverage. If there is cover, your phone will use our network as normal. If you would prefer not to use Wi-Fi Calling, you can switch it off in your phone’s setting menu.”

hey ho!
georgi_prodanov
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by biggy7:
“ahh! i see, this is not like EE's wifi calling then where it uses it first (which im used to with my S7 Edge and EE sim)

anyone concur? (just so that i stop trying to troubleshoot!)

thanks for the heads up.

EDIT:

http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI-...obj%2813306%29



hey ho!”

yes that is the right one. But dont know how it will switch between wifi calling and mobile signal like EE. They have managed to change from wifi calling to 4G and the other way.
red_snow
25-11-2016
Guys, looking for your honest opinions on Three nowadays?

I was on 3UK for a while a couple of years ago and IIRC the call reliability was pretty good and maybe less dropped calls than EE!. The letdown was indoor coverage, especially at work where only VO2 4G/800 and 3G/2G would penetrate the building. No EE either.

So I'm currently on O2 and works OK but I am not particularly happy with the dropping down to 3/2G quite a lot despite good 4G. In addition 3G speeds are still pretty poor and general UK coverage is still not great for data.

Back at work I do now see EE 4G and 3UK 4G when I search networks. However as 3 have this somewhat daft policy of not letting my device register on the 4G/800 despite VoLTE support (the OP3 works on EE 4G/1800), I can't test it properly.

Therefore I'm considering a new contract with an S7 edge so that I can use VoLTE (super voice). What are your experiences with 4G/800 VoLTE? A LOT better coverage and good reliability/quality using VoLTE?

Thanks

>mark
FmBandScan
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by red_snow:
“Guys, looking for your honest opinions on Three nowadays?

I was on 3UK for a while a couple of years ago and IIRC the call reliability was pretty good and maybe less dropped calls than EE!. The letdown was indoor coverage, especially at work where only VO2 4G/800 and 3G/2G would penetrate the building. No EE either.

So I'm currently on O2 and works OK but I am not particularly happy with the dropping down to 3/2G quite a lot despite good 4G. In addition 3G speeds are still pretty poor and general UK coverage is still not great for data.

Back at work I do now see EE 4G and 3UK 4G when I search networks. However as 3 have this somewhat daft policy of not letting my device register on the 4G/800 despite VoLTE support (the OP3 works on EE 4G/1800), I can't test it properly.

Therefore I'm considering a new contract with an S7 edge so that I can use VoLTE (super voice). What are your experiences with 4G/800 VoLTE? A LOT better coverage and good reliability/quality using VoLTE?

Thanks

>mark”

I'd say your best bet would be to get a payg sim and pop £5 or £10 on it and do some real world testing.

My reason being, sometimes at home I'll get between 40-70mbs on 4G, other times I'll get anywhere from 5-20 and it's better off switching to 3G.

However at work, my phone will rather stick to 1 dying bar of 3G, than 2-3 bars of 800mhz 4G which is much faster, and my device is VOLTE capable too. Only way to get on the 4G is to toggle aeroplane mode and start data flow right away.

Step outside work and I get 3-4 bars of 1800mhz 4G which can get me 60-90mbs speed.
Carl_Boys
26-11-2016
I'm on a sim only deal with a 6s plus and supervoice does work better. A local wacky warehouse which was a total black spot until this week when I've started getting 4g band 20, as more and more masts are upgraded it should improve a lot. EE are starting there roll out and the price difference now between EE and Three is not so big so I don't know why you wouldn't go EE. It has more spectrum, more 4G coverage and 25gb limits so unless Three is a big cost difference I would look at EE. A recent speediest on three I got

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/1869047657

Originally Posted by red_snow:
“Guys, looking for your honest opinions on Three nowadays?

I was on 3UK for a while a couple of years ago and IIRC the call reliability was pretty good and maybe less dropped calls than EE!. The letdown was indoor coverage, especially at work where only VO2 4G/800 and 3G/2G would penetrate the building. No EE either.

So I'm currently on O2 and works OK but I am not particularly happy with the dropping down to 3/2G quite a lot despite good 4G. In addition 3G speeds are still pretty poor and general UK coverage is still not great for data.

Back at work I do now see EE 4G and 3UK 4G when I search networks. However as 3 have this somewhat daft policy of not letting my device register on the 4G/800 despite VoLTE support (the OP3 works on EE 4G/1800), I can't test it properly.

Therefore I'm considering a new contract with an S7 edge so that I can use VoLTE (super voice). What are your experiences with 4G/800 VoLTE? A LOT better coverage and good reliability/quality using VoLTE?

Thanks

>mark”

frejus19
26-11-2016
So, this 2300MHz spectrum that Three are planning on bidding on - is it for LTE band 40? I'd been looking at the OnePlus 3 recently and I noticed it supported it. If Three were successful and it got rolled out, would it be used for carrier aggregation?

Also, I know it's been more or less discussed to death, but if they do fail in obtaining this spectrum, would they start to refarm their band 1 spectrum - and if not, why would they be reluctant to do this?
lightspeed2398
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by frejus19:
“So, this 2300MHz spectrum that Three are planning on bidding on - is it for LTE band 40? I'd been looking at the OnePlus 3 recently and I noticed it supported it. If Three were successful and it got rolled out, would it be used for carrier aggregation?

Also, I know it's been more or less discussed to death, but if they do fail in obtaining this spectrum, would they start to refarm their band 1 spectrum - and if not, why would they be reluctant to do this?”

TDD-FDD CA is still a relatively rare feature if I remember correctly, wouldn't bet on the OP3 being able to do it or indeed any SD820/1 device (if anyone knows one doing it please let me know I might buy one!). X16 / SD835 devices next year might support it.

Band 1 will be coming on Three, still probably got a rather large 3G base though so they need to keep that as a sustainable layer for voice etc. I'd say some point next year for the beginning of refarming. Ideally they'd have VoLTE first but that'd mean interlinking the 800/1800 with handover etc.
FmBandScan
27-11-2016
Was in Meadowhall doing some last shopping this afternoon/evening and it was pretty busy.

Three was pretty much at a standstill, 3G speed test resulted in pings in the 200ms range, download speed of 0.04 and upload speed test fails.

1800mhz 4G was around 4mbs with the uploads around 20mbs range but 1800mhz 4G coverage isn't very good in there.
When I managed to get on the 800mhz I was getting around 12mbs download/upload, however I kept getting booted back to 3G annoyingly!
Gigabit
27-11-2016
Still would appear to be on the Three mast 20 miles away but the signal is blooming resillient in my home.

If EE can get 800 on a mast close by I'll be set.
radii
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by biggy7:
“just an update.

i got the G5 today, its got 3 software.”

Any thoughts on doing a boot loader unlock and root?
Gigabit
27-11-2016
Is there a speed test that doesn't use data on Three?
jonmorris
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“Is there a speed test that doesn't use data on Three?”

Not that I'm aware of. Nor O2. Just EE and Vodafone.

Three gets the data from Ookla, so it's a shame they couldn't let us do tests without using data. Not a problem for AYCE plans, obviously, but others...
georgi_prodanov
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Not that I'm aware of. Nor O2. Just EE and Vodafone.

Three gets the data from Ookla, so it's a shame they couldn't let us do tests without using data. Not a problem for AYCE plans, obviously, but others...”

which one is from EE? how can i get it
Michael09
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“which one is from EE? how can i get it”

The RootMetrics one is what you're after, doesn't use up your data allowance, available on both App Stores.
jonmorris
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Michael09:
“The RootMetrics one is what you're after, doesn't use up your data allowance, available on both App Stores.”

You sure? That's true for EE but not Vodafone or O2, and not Three to the best of my knowledge.
Gigabit
27-11-2016
Use Net Perform for Vodafone or even the My Vodafone app as that now has a built-in speed tester.
Michael09
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“You sure? That's true for EE but not Vodafone or O2, and not Three to the best of my knowledge.”

I believe the user I was quoting asked what Speedtest app to use for EE, which is why I said Rootmetrics. Being on Three I'm aware there are no options for me other than to have a large data allowance .
Thine Wonk
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Michael09:
“I believe the user I was quoting asked what Speedtest app to use for EE, which is why I said Rootmetrics. Being on Three I'm aware there are no options for me other than to have a large data allowance .”

... or not to waste it all on speedtests and just use the phone normally.
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