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Three 4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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Chris1973
04-09-2015
Quote:
“Any maps showing possible 800mhz coverage for the North West Midlands area (West mids, Staffordshire, Shropshire & Cheshire) please, seemes to be missing from all the ones I've seem posted so far..”

Probably because as far as 3's 4G goes its likely to remain a huge desert with just the odd tiny 4G oasis

But I too would be grateful for a link showing the expected 800mhz coverage of the CW12 area in Cheshire, even if it is just a big white space
jabbamk1
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by djfrancis:
“Anyone know if the Core Prime will be VoLTE?

http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/m...SM-G360FHAABTU


4G FDD LTE
B1 (2100)
B3 (1800)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B20 (800)”

It supports it.

Just need to wait for one of the networks in the UK to support it.
lightspeed2398
04-09-2015
Having had a good look since I found the 800 map last night, I'm quite concerned about the speeds from some of those masts. If you look up at Carlisle for example one mast appears to be doing the work of perhaps 5 normal masts and that's on a 5MHz bandwidth signal as well!

There should be the advantage shouldn't there that 3g gets a big boost if everyone else has moved to 4g shouldn't there? Might lock my phone to 3g if that happens.
Minardi
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“Having had a good look since I found the 800 map last night, I'm quite concerned about the speeds from some of those masts. If you look up at Carlisle for example one mast appears to be doing the work of perhaps 5 normal masts and that's on a 5MHz bandwidth signal as well! .”

This is what it looks like around me in Derbyshire. Just the existing masts, but putting out more power on a lower frequency to give better coverage. I fear speeds may be slow. Especially just on 5MHz
mupet0000
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“Having had a good look since I found the 800 map last night, I'm quite concerned about the speeds from some of those masts. If you look up at Carlisle for example one mast appears to be doing the work of perhaps 5 normal masts and that's on a 5MHz bandwidth signal as well!

There should be the advantage shouldn't there that 3g gets a big boost if everyone else has moved to 4g shouldn't there? Might lock my phone to 3g if that happens.”

That's a good point, plenty of sites in my town use high frequency antennas that can't do 800 yet the coverage footprint for 800 is huge, it's possibly all from one particular site on a rooftop that already has quite a large footprint with 1800. When my local fill-in site was turned off for maintenence the other week, this rooftop site picked up the slack, I had service indoors and out, and quite a usable 4G service at that (never lost signal and the data worked), even with my nearest site being switched off.

If that's the case, I suppose the network will want your phone to hold onto 1800 for dear life until it switches to 800. Not only is the slice of spectrum extremely limited, but there might not be many sites upgraded with few sites covering a huge area. Maybe it's called Super-Voice because the data is going to be Super-Slow.
Mass Corona
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“Maybe go and post somewhere else. Start your own thread or something.”

And you are?

This is the thread for discussion on Three's 4G. It's not a Three fan club appreciation thread.

How ridiculous is a thread where you have to only post nice things about Three and not allowed to comment on all their months of cockups and utter lies.
tarzion
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“Perhaps someone could explain this to me, I had a play around looking at the JavaScript source on Three's coverage checker and I noticed that you could lookup on their API manual here http://www.three.co.uk/maintenance/c...json&postcode= I noticed some references to 800MHz in the code here and I noticed 800 mentioned in the API response. Anyone got any idea about this?

Edit: I think I may possible have found a way to see the 800 coverage on the map. Someone please confirm. Open the 3 coverage map then open your web browser's console and type window.coverageTypeToSearch = "800"; exactly then press enter then h3g.coverageChecker.addOverlay(); exactly. I think it shows the 800 coverage. I can't exactly tell at the moment because I'm on crap internet and a crap computer but can someone anyone tell?”

I am just trying to work this out.

Which browser do you use? I tried firefox and am struggling to find out where to type the required information.
aioderek
04-09-2015
I can't wait to see this 800 map to see what my area is like.. I'm kinda rural so hope I'm pleasantly surprised! Roll on the 10th...
FortKnox
04-09-2015
With Firefox. Use Ctrl+Shift+K on the keyboard to bring up the web console and then at the very bottom there is a box where you put your commands into.

You may have to type "allow pasting" first. Otherwise it won't let you quoting something about spam.

Regarding my area of SY16 1LJ. Nothing changes between 4G 1800Mhz or 800Mhz. I haven't got any lol. However there was work done on the 3rd Sept. and another set of works on the 8th September. So i'll keep an eye on my local monopole mast as it has had planning permission for a 12.5m Monopole mast replacement since April!!
aioderek
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by tarzion:
“I am just trying to work this out.

Which browser do you use? I tried firefox and am struggling to find out where to type the required information. ”

I couldn't work it out either.. Would love to see my predicted 800 map but it's like another language to me.. I'll just have to wait until the 10th when hopefully it's realised.
tarzion
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by FortKnox:
“With Firefox. Use Ctrl+Shift+K on the keyboard to bring up the web console and then at the very bottom there is a box where you put your commands into.

You may have to type "allow pasting" first. Otherwise it won't let you quoting something about spam.

Regarding my area of SY16 1LJ. Nothing changes between 4G 1800Mhz or 800Mhz. I haven't got any lol. However there was work done on the 3rd Sept. and another set of works on the 8th September. So i'll keep an eye on my local monopole mast as it has had planning permission for a 12.5m Monopole mast replacement since April!!”

Worked that out.

Even though the blanked coverage has improved in the surround areas, there is not much improvement for me.

Atleast I will be able to test the Super Voice on my wife's S5 Duos
Chris1973
04-09-2015
Quote:
“Any maps showing possible 800mhz coverage for the North West Midlands area (West mids, Staffordshire, Shropshire & Cheshire) please, seemes to be missing from all the ones I've seem posted so far..”

Here is the Shropshire, Cheshire and Part of Staffordshire section of your request! (showing 800mhz)

http://s1.postimg.org/qo0mvlavz/rsz_4g_not_a_hope.jpg
aioderek
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by Chris1973:
“Here is the Shropshire, Cheshire and Part of Staffordshire section of your request! (showing 800mhz)

http://s1.postimg.org/qo0mvlavz/rsz_4g_not_a_hope.jpg”

Any chance anyone can search for CT3 4LA on the 800 map?? Please!!! 😀
lightspeed2398
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by aioderek:
“Any chance anyone can search for CT3 4LA on the 800 map?? Please!!! 😀”

[Links removed due to the fact that they couldn't work]
aioderek
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“http://s3.postimg.org/rg22vdobz
http://s3.postimg.org/dc67mzh4f/”

Thanks lightspeed.. The link doesn't appear to be working...
lightspeed2398
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by aioderek:
“Thanks lightspeed.. The link doesn't appear to be working... ”

http://imgur.com/a/4x4Wi

Sorry about that. Try it now
aioderek
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“http://imgur.com/a/4x4Wi

Sorry about that. Try it now ”

Oh excellent, thank you so much for that. I really appreciate it
GrannyGruntbuck
04-09-2015
Could someone do CT10 2AE for me please?
I am at work do can only access the www on my phone.
Denco1
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by tarzion:
“Atleast I will be able to test the Super Voice on my wife's S5 Duos”

Sorry but the S5 Duos won't be supported from launch, I'm unsure if it ever will be.
Denco1
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“
There should be the advantage shouldn't there that 3g gets a big boost if everyone else has moved to 4g shouldn't there? Might lock my phone to 3g if that happens.”

Would be good to see a 3G speed and power increase, assuming they don't allocate more bandwidth to 4G over 3G as 4G coverage increases.

I will test my LG G4 on both automatic selection and 3G+4G 1800MHz only, hoping that VoLTE also works over 1800MHz. Should be interesting to see the difference in speeds/coverage and how well srvcc works.
Yogimax
04-09-2015
Finally (maybe!!)

I just checked 4 different areas in Northern Ireland and got variances on the planned work theme - only difference is the main work appears to be with some initial work in areas in the west of the province over the 8-9th Sept, with all areas having planned work which will involve an outage from the 22nd for Belfast, and 23rd for other areas.

Maybe we might actually see some 4G goodness this year!
lightspeed2398
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by GrannyGruntbuck:
“Could someone do CT10 2AE for me please?
I am at work do can only access the www on my phone. ”

http://imgur.com/eZwefvW
GrannyGruntbuck
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“http://imgur.com/eZwefvW”

Thank you...
Skippy2005
04-09-2015
Hi would it be possible to add a link for post code wf1 1de its, currently outdoor coverage only, and also will this area be covered from next week or will it come online before the end of the year.

Many thanks I appreciate it, if it's soon I will be joining 3, Voda is melting my brain!!!!
lightspeed2398
04-09-2015
Originally Posted by Skippy2005:
“Hi would it be possible to add a link for post code wf1 1de its, currently outdoor coverage only, and also will this area be covered from next week or will it come online before the end of the year.

Many thanks I appreciate it, if it's soon I will be joining 3, Voda is melting my brain!!!!”

http://imgur.com/1aQmf70

I think it's from launch coverage. On the API if 800 is coming soon then it has a separate 800 Coming option which doesn't show up on the map.
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