Thanks got it! Had to use Chrome as opposed to Safari on the mac

Can't seem to get into the desktop site for planned maintenance.. It's saying it doing essential maintenance work. Perhaps its updating for the 800mhz map?

Or they've worked out that people are getting 800MHz info too early and are working to hide it again for a few days

Ah! Yeah perhaps that is the case!! mobile site now down to!!!

That's what was thinking too.

Btw whoever did that spreadsheet did a great job sorry didn't see the name, but didn't see my postcode or any within 2 miles of me, but still come under ha8 at the beginning.

4 of the masts had poll changes in the last 2 months and lots of updates so perhaps I can hope its coming here.

Also Microsoft added voLTE in wp8.1. Do you need to have three firmware on the phone to benefit or unlocked devices will also be eligible.

Thanka

Well when the 800 overlay goes live, we will all be able to plug different phones into that box and find out what it tells us. (See if it's just checking for general 800mhz (Band 20) capabilities of the phone or whether it's for VoLTE compatibility.)

Some phones can't get 800mhz.
Some can get 800mhz and are set to go with VoLTE on launch day.
Some can get 800mhz but are not compatible from the launch.
And some can get 800mhz and it's unknown what their eventual VoLTE status may be as they ain't on ZE LIST!

More like fixing the bug that lets people look at the 800mhz map after reading what we are upto on here!

Stable doors and horses spring to mind here!

If they've been reading they'll know we've got the postcode data in the spreadsheet (thanks GavinAshford great work) and we've all got screenshots or had a look at least for where we are so there's absolutely no point now shutting it off.

PARANOIA SECTION BEGINS HERE (mad rambling)!

If you're reading from Three a little bit of community engagement might be nice.

PARANOIA ENDS.

On the 800 overlay parts of Broadstairs will be covered by 4G outdoors but not right along the coast. It actually just looks like the existing Margate 4G splodge (technical term!) has just grown bigger and now covers parts of Broadstairs.

It's a bit like Folkestone, it doesn't look like ant old 3G transmitter has been converted to 800, it just look like the already transmitting splodge over Sandgate has got bigger. (But than I know for an absolute fact that that is on 1800, so that makes know sense unless they have added a 800mhz transmitter to just that one and as it's 800mhz it travels further ?!?!

Hi totally off topic, as discussed in the past few days I'm waiting for 800 VoLTE to go live. My question is has anyone any experience of using feel like home in New York and Washington DC, I'm going in January. I've read some horror story's on the 3 forums of poor speeds non connections etc... Although the latter is more to do with roaming not being setup I imagine.

Or should I continue with Voda with world traveller despite the cost and then switch to three when I get back.

Thanks.

Hi all
Long time lurker, first time poster
For those trying to figure out which cells are broadcasting LTE in their area, have you considered using Cellmapper? I've spent some time mapping my local area and it now gives a pretty accurate location and footprint for each cell:
http://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=23...441468&zoom=12

Getting quite scary round here what with all these people lurking in the shadows..!

Hi Ian. Welcome!
Cellmapper and others have been discussed many times on here and the general consensus is they are not that accurate at all.
This is because they attempt to locate the mast (and so the cells) by analysing phone signal data.
Sometimes it's quite good and sometimes not.
Down here its all valleys and hills so cellmapper is pretty bad at locating masts.
These systems have their place though and there are some things you can do to get better accuracy. The FAQ suggests driving right around the mast but my question there would be.... hang on, I'm trying to locate the mast in the first place. If I can drive around it I don't need to locate it do I! Haha

FAQ here - http://www.cellmapper.net/faq
Points 2,3 and 6 being most relevent.

I guess it's inherently more accurate in my area because it's pretty flat, but according to the app I've uploaded about 500k data points so far and because I've used it randomly all over the area I haven't had to deliberately try and drive around any particular mast, it's figured it out for itself

OK, thanks for that, I did wonder if the sample size might be too small. what is your postcode sector? (the next number in your postcode?)

I'm re-running the scraping to include 3 postcodes (alphabetically first, middle and last) per postcode sector, hopefully that'll cover a wider range of postcodes.

Three is a strange company, from their new coverage maps page;

4G coverage in DNXXXXX on Motorola Moto G LTE

Good service.
You should be able to use the internet in most instances on our 4G network.

Indoor signal strength may vary.
Moto G LTE is compatible with our 4G network. Browse our 4G devices
Indoor & Outdoor.

Outdoor.
No Coverage.

So my phone is compatible indoors but not outdoors?

Motorola Moto G LTE

is compatible with our 4G network

Obviously that's an error, if you can get signal indoors, of course you can outdoors.

Something I do notice that is a bit misleading though is this:
"You can make calls, send texts and use the internet over our 4G network. Just so you know, indoor signal strength may vary. And good news about your phone it's 4G compatible."

If you go to an area with 4G and choose any 4G device, it says you can *make calls* over 4G. Of course, you can't, the calls will be made over 3G, but that's not what it says.

Probably way over my head but what programme or programming language are you using to interrogate the website?

And also, if your programme is constantly interrogating the site, isn't that they same as a DOS attack? (Not that I care! )

Also as my current phone doesn't do 800mhz leave alone VoLTE, but it is 4G, it's just not Three kind of 4G. (Unless it's a Three 1800mhz kinda 4G)

So yes it is a misleading statement especially to customers who have no idea what frequency is leave alone which ones Three may be using.

The iPhone 5 is practically unique, though. Almost every LTE phone can do 800MHz.

More importantly, it was never sold by 3 as being a 4G capable phone (and I don't think it was sold at all as being 4G capable in the UK? It's just luck that it does 1800MHz and will kinda-sorta work)

What will be interesting is if they plan to ban non VoLTE phones from 800MHz, as that will mean a lot more affected models and users

I think there's variants of the OnePlus phones that do 1800 but not 800 too.

Yes if they reserve 800mhz only for VoLTE users, then general Three 4G users are going to be very pee'd off and rightfully so.

Going to be some major disappointment from many come the 10th when they thought they were getting 4G Data services at last only to find that their phone doesn't do VoLTE yet or ever and it's only for that and not bringing them the 4G that Three have been promising a long time.

I think that would cause a mass exit of many of their customers.

As I have tried to say, Three was doing 4G roll out and then slowed and dropped that and now moved on to this latest VoLTE thing and so are coming across as being a headless chicken.

It isn't just the iPhone 5. Many handsets from the Chinese "unknown" makers phones missed off 800Mhz, I'm pretty sure all variants of the onePlus One aren't 800 capable, as an example.

Fairly niche phones, though (and more importantly, weren't sold by 3)

The iPhone 5 I believe was only designed for EE 4G in the UK and marketed by Apple (and EE) only for them.