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Old 11-09-2015, 22:09
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i have a sony z3 compact that has the 800mhz band.
i bought it from o2 as payg, unlocked it and am using a 3 payg sim
currently have unbranded rooted firmware flashed onto it.

if/when 3 enable VOLTE for the z3 compact, would i need to flash the 3uk firmware onto it for VOLTE to work? or are 3 enabling phones based on IMEI numbers?

thanks
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Old 11-09-2015, 22:11
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Coverage in Pudsey for 1800MHz LTE is wide spread everywhere other than my house. 800MHz eliminates all the blackspots in my house of 3G/4G.
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Old 11-09-2015, 22:16
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Welcome to the forum, and congrats on being the first person to screenshot Three VoLTE.

Would you mind checking what date you kernel is? The latest I've seen is August 21st but I'm wondering if a more recent version exists.

Also could you check your IMEI SV? I'm guessing it is either 09 or 10.
So my kernel version date is 21st August like you said.
Also my IMEI SV is 09
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Old 11-09-2015, 22:20
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i have a sony z3 compact that has the 800mhz band.
i bought it from o2 as payg, unlocked it and am using a 3 payg sim
currently have unbranded rooted firmware flashed onto it.

if/when 3 enable VOLTE for the z3 compact, would i need to flash the 3uk firmware onto it for VOLTE to work? or are 3 enabling phones based on IMEI numbers?

thanks
I think it is highly likely that Three firmware will be required for android phones to have access to VoLTE pre-marshmallow.
I was also told that Three InTouch will eventually be "4G Super Voice" compatible which you'll be waiting a while for if you want to go down that route.
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Old 11-09-2015, 22:40
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I can confirm that VoLTE on 800MHz works very well.
http://imgur.com/2JU1ctD

I had to flash three firmware and then do about four updates.
Speeds range from 10mbits to 25mbits

P.S. I'm new here but a regular reader
The other Three VoLTE user on the Three blog, complained that the battery is draining quickly, same with you?

Can you say what phone and area you are in?
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Old 12-09-2015, 01:10
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im still confused here.. So the phones never supplied by Three will not get voLTE even if they are compatible like the Nokia Lumia 930?
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:15
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By the looks of things 800mhz is not comming at all if you do not have a device directly from three.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:23
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im still confused here.. So the phones never supplied by Three will not get voLTE even if they are compatible like the Nokia Lumia 930?
I think short answer is no-one really knows until Three announce something.

Personally I think they'll likely have a rollout to phones, initally to ones they have more 'control' over (I.e. 3 branded hardware) to both limit the volume of people affected by any potential issues and the support needed to address those.

But I do believe they will have to support non-branded hardware, 800mhz 4G travels farther than their 3G so its possible for someone to have a 4g connection (on 800) but without an underlying 3g coverage. Without VoLTE they will not be able to make a call.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:27
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By the looks of things 800mhz is not comming at all if you do not have a device directly from three.
So how come I can connect to 800 from my Nexus 6 bought direct from Google?
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:36
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So how come I can connect to 800 from my Nexus 6 bought direct from Google?
From three:
We’re in the process of rolling out the use of our new 800Mhz spectrum and we’re calling this Super-Voice. Just now this is only available for compatible devices bought directly from Three and can receive the necessary software update.



Unfortunately we don’t have any plans to allow non-Three devices to use this but this may change in the future. We’re aware of the impact the new Super-Voice feature will have, so I’d recommend checking our website or our blog in future for any updates.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:43
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From three:
We’re in the process of rolling out the use of our new 800Mhz spectrum and we’re calling this Super-Voice. Just now this is only available for compatible devices bought directly from Three and can receive the necessary software update.



Unfortunately we don’t have any plans to allow non-Three devices to use this but this may change in the future. We’re aware of the impact the new Super-Voice feature will have, so I’d recommend checking our website or our blog in future for any updates.
Yeah I've read that too, which is why I'm surprised it does connect and work (though can't make a call)
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:46
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So my kernel version date is 21st August like you said.
Also my IMEI SV is 09
Thanks for that information.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:48
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Yeah I've read that too, which is why I'm surprised it does connect and work (though can't make a call)
When you say can't make a call, is that just when you are in LTE only mode, or does CSFB also not work while connected to 800MHz in auto mode?
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:53
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Given how long Three has sold SIM only tariffs, does it not foresee a large number of unhappy customers?

And shouldn't any mobile broadband tariff be enabled for 800 on ANY device?
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:09
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Well I cancelled the SIM only deal I got for my wife last week as was concerned that she will never be able to use the 800mhz for data on her Huawei Honor 4x (let alone the SuperVoice).

Just thought it was not worth the extra money hanging onto it just to keep as a backup so I'm guaranteed the £17/month SIM only deal when my contact ends in April.

Also I have not even seen a sniff of 4G even outside my house since the 10th, so I guess they may have just been testing the 800mhz or new mast (hopefully it will be turned back on soon).
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:22
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From three:
We’re in the process of rolling out the use of our new 800Mhz spectrum and we’re calling this Super-Voice. Just now this is only available for compatible devices bought directly from Three and can receive the necessary software update.



Unfortunately we don’t have any plans to allow non-Three devices to use this but this may change in the future. We’re aware of the impact the new Super-Voice feature will have, so I’d recommend checking our website or our blog in future for any updates.
But non three iPhones will be exempt from this????? I see the tariffs have been changed again a new 12Gb plan and 12gb hotspot on AYCE
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:46
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When you say can't make a call, is that just when you are in LTE only mode, or does CSFB also not work while connected to 800MHz in auto mode?
I can only get 800 when forced into LTE only, therefore there's no fall back to anything else for calls. 3G is really strong here so 99.9% of the time it'll be connected to that when not forced LTE only.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:37
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I have been following this thread like everyone else, and I must share my experience with VOLTE with an operator in Sweden, for you who wonder what it will sound like.

I have used both Viber, Skype and Whatsapp Call, but nothing compares to Super-Voice, or VOLTE. Not even 3G-HD Call comes close.

With VOLTE, it sounds so incredibly clear like the person is standing next to you. You dont hear the "digital" bits of a conversation over VOLTE. It sounds so clear its even better than real life. Its unbelievable.
A normal call today compared to VOLTE would be comparing VHS with 4K. It's that different.

Now, all I hope is that the quality will be the same for everyone of us when they release it to everyone else on the 15th. And I hope the quality is the same as the one I experienced in Sweden, where I come from.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:40
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What a joke of a network..
So, at least that's one decision made for me..
Now where to go. Vodafone, EE or BT.
trouble with the last 2 is they still rely on the same 3g network as three which has dozens of dead low or no data masts around me, Vodafone is great around me but a little unpredictable else where..
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:41
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I also need to say that if you really want that true Super-Voice call, you need to call someone who can also make calls over the 4G network, otherwise it won't be the same great quality.If you call over VOLTE but to a landline or someone on the 3G network, the quality will not be even close to two people calling eachother over VOLTE.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:43
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What a joke of a network..
So, at least that's one decision made for me..
Now where to go. Vodafone, EE or BT.
trouble with the last 2 is they still rely on the same 3g network as three which has dozens of dead low or no data masts around me, Vodafone is great around me but a little unpredictable else where..
Its always easy to get frustrated, especially if you are expecting something. But remember, Three is the network that gives most value for money. Not having to worry about roaming when you go abroad (to many countries) is a HUGE plus. And they always improve, they ALWAYS do what the customer wants.

Right now they might not release 800mhz for ALL 3 customers, but rest assured that they will most likely do it in the near future, as that seems to be their plan: to make the customers happy.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:53
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If they don't move to support more users, including all those SIM only customers with (technically) compatible kit, then it makes yet another mockery of the whole 'makeitright' campaign.

Of course, it IS early days and Three is yet to officially announce anything. So it's a bit harsh to have a go at them yet, but I feel that there might be just cause in the coming months if there are a lot of handsets not supported that could be.

Mind you, Three may be hoping a large number of people will upgrade to a new phone on a 24 month contract and could have made a sensible business decision to hold back supporting older/non-Three supplied phones until they can generate a lot of new business.

It would certainly seem likely that many people will say 'sod it' and just buy a brand new phone that will work from day one.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:57
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trouble with the last 2 is they still rely on the same 3g network as three
Worth getting an EE PAYG SIM and checking that out as they have different backhaul. I've been on the A1 with a colleage with Three, who got 1mbps on Thre 3G, and I managed 20mbps on EE 3G. So worth checking.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:10
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Three did announce it, some time ago.
Quote; "We’ll ensure that this network enhancement is extended to all of our customers; 1million will be using VoLTE this year and 7.5million will be enjoying it by 2016.", which is the same thing isn't it?
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:15
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It burns the battery on EE too.. hence the tweaking both are doing.
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