I'm pretty familiar with Australians. Known loads over the years and have been there myself although it was on business so not a lot of hanging about. Australian women are in many (most) cases more than a match for the misogyny leaning. I just found Ryan really dull and was disappointed he took the pip at the end. The women were in control most of that series, if my memory serves, so I was a bit disappointed a male won, would probably feel that about any of the men not just Ryan. Knew the women were doomed on the last US BB from week one.

Everyone who wasn't Derrick was doomed on that season

BB Aus 2013 was sensational….. could be held up as THE finest example of how do to BB right….. it was fantastic !!! Last year not so much…. 2012 was even super strong… really loved that year too. Great characters.

I get how you have to shake things up, but to throw out four housemates in one night that have not even been nominated is ridiculous in hindsight. It just buggers around with the formula too much.

Giving the H creature a pass to the final the year before… another disastrous decision.

Why can't they just throw 15 or more in……. and watch them develop over weeks, and nom every week, and put ONE out every week, and just let the person who survives from day one to the final night the winner.

BB Australia is by far my favourite version.

I have watched every series, and loved them all. The only criticism is how they chopped so many days later on the last series. One day we would see nominations, then no shows until eviction day. That was a real let-down.

Best ever winner anywhere for me is the legend that is Tim, BB Australia.

I don't know what it would be like in the UK, but if you made a season that is pure "back to basics" (no twists, no multiple evictions at once) here in the US, guaranteed that the season would bomb really, really quick. We had a show here a few months ago called Utopia; it was basically Big Brother only more emphasis on sustaining a society. There were no twists planned, and the show was expected to last a year. Instead, it only lasted two months before it was cancelled due to low ratings.

Producers have to do something to keep viewers hooked. The quadruple eviction may seem unfair, but producers felt it was necessary, whether it was to get more viewers to tune in, or to save Jade. And in the end, it got more people talking about Big Brother, whether good or bad.

I would hope producers don't go to drastic measures for BBUK and think American-izing the format would be a good idea. Having watched 15 (soon to be 16) seasons of the American format, I don't think it would make a good fit in the UK or AUS. But the producers could think different.

Personal preference I prefer BBAUS, but my criticism is its storylines don't flow to well on the hls it's a bit amateurish in its editing.

frankly, the AUS is like watching paint dry.

As a massive BB UK fan since day 1 I have to say I much prefer the Aussie version (lived in Sydney now for the last 3 years).

Its in no way near as controversial - but it doesn't try to be so there is much less manipulation.

Its really a pleasure to watch (although i can see why some people might think its boring compared with the Uk version). The crowd especially love it - no booi g in fact quite the opposite.


Its just nice funny viewing - which I personally prefer.

I'm watching the latest UK series on youtube (catching up) and everyone seems really fake and fakely controversial.

The difference I guess is I could see me down the pub with the aussie BB contestants - I seem to want to punch the UK contestants in the face!

I agree with you, it's great viewing. as you say, the housemates seem like normal people with normal personalities. The loud vibrant ones and the quieter ones, the plotters, the peace-makers ....And then there was Tim too.
And it works.
There is far less manipulation, no messing with the format to keep certain people in. And the only person truly in charge is their great Big Brother.

I absolutely love it.

No. It's safe, and nice, and clean, and seemingly suitable for the whole family. All things that amount to awful TV. It's also like watching an antfarm through a telescope because the shots are so far away from the HMs.

Yes. For me it is the only Big Brother and if you haven't watched them then you should. Some of the best TV i've ever watched and i know that sounds silly but back in the day it really was. I don't know what it is about Australians but i find them endlessly fascinating. Also the production team does i really good job of focusing on the housemates having the time of their lives. It's all very positive and the complete opposite of our trashy BB.

Somebody didn't watch the earlier big brothers that had a supplementary uncut episode every week. Definitely not for the family. Infact, wasn't it a particular incident that was aired in the uncut episode that put BB in the spotlight calling for it to be banned by the Prime Minister at the time?

I assume the original poster was referring to the version of BB AUS that is airing currently.

I loved the Australian version in 2012. I loved watching Layla, Estelle, Ben and Michael. All for different reasons but they made the series for me. They got rid of the ones I disliked pretty early on.

2013 is probably the best produced BB series I've ever watched. The HMs in the final month were nearly all worthy of being the winner, apart from Ed who made it so easy to hate the best looking man ever!

100% agree. I have watched all of our BB series and have now seen every BBAU series too.

.BBAU 2013 was my favourite series ever. By miles.

Loved the mix of housemates.

And I also loved to hate Ed, the very attractive villain, who never ever got the better of Tim - try as he did.

And I especially loved Tim winning!

Big Brother at it's very best.

The Aussie BB is head and shoulders above the UK version and the US version is about as high as the UK's arse.
The Aus game plays with HMs minds a bit more and usually has some really good twists.
In the US there are no tasks like here. It's more of a slapstick Olympics and the winner of that gets to be Head of House for the week. People talk about noms and gang up on each other. It's all bloody politics. With this format they are able to wring out 3 shows a week and while it is entertaining it's nowhere near as good as even the UK.

I don't like the fact that in America the winner is often the most devious, unpleasant, manipulative, Machiavellian contestant for whom 'the end always justifies the means'.
The U.S. seem to favour a more 'dog eat dog / gladiatorial' approach to winning which I find to be a sad reflection of so many aspects of their culture and values.

I feel very proud that in the U.K. the audience usually admires contestants with basically good hearts or perhaps the slightly vulnerable. It's heartening to know that we value kindness and basic decency over ruthless ambition - the latter of which American viewers seem to prefer...favouring a very Darwinian approach.

I've also never got "Oats ala Layla" out of my head, whenever I see oats it all comes back to me.

I used to like usa one when it was about who played the game better gets to the end but then the producers let the people at home vote like who's there fav houseguest gets to change the votes
Australia 2013 was the best since coming back with Tim and tahan, and the new nom pod,

The last Australian one wasn't that good, but the one before was. They do have too much on showmances and in that sense it is manipulated, also some scenes are set up in a very manipulated way.

So really it is past it's heyday, which passed when it moved channels (just as with the UK one). They cut the live stream as well, and cut even video extras last series.

The British one on CH5 normally has a very stupid cast and is heavily manipulated. The cast this year was better but the producers decided it wasn't trashy enough and so culled it.

The last series of the US one was weak. And the Canadian one generally is weaker. The problem is fake DR scripts, lack of exciting gameplay and people just following like sheep. This could have been a problem long term with this version. Again some just put in for showmances sometimes, particularly on the Canadian one.

Both need to be reformed to work.

The US style one needs aggressive flexible gameplay, a real Survivor feel and shouldn't just be about cliche scripted roles like the meatheads and the gobby strategists, and all of them (including the women) should have a role to play in the game.

The British style one needs to stop the manipulation to save producer's favourites, value people who aren't idiots in the cast and make it vote to save.

As it is I think both versions are going downhill and are in jeapardy.

"Proud" and "UK audience" are oxymorons. The horridness that is the UK audience is by far the worst thing about the show. A pack of vicious, baying wolves, poised at the evictions to eviscerate the next evictee. And the ones at home don't seem to be much better, sitting, poised with their fingers on their phones ready to call someone and complain every time they're offended.

Seems a sad reflection of so many aspects of their culture and values.

Having lived in the US for the last couple of years I can't disagree with your take on it. But I loved last year because Derrick won by being a decent guy that made everyone like him because he was kind to them all. This kindness also helped him to get them all to do his bidding and they loved doing it for him. Brilliant!
I watched them all I like that the US can be a gladiatorial game and everyone involved treats it like a sport and gets into the spirit of the competition. They all sign up to be part of this game and enjoy trying to outplay each other.
I like that the UK tries to award its winner as the one that they think will most appreciate the prize in most cases.
And I like that BB AU is a mix of the two with a little competitive appreciation for when the HMs play the game but also awarding the most likeable character in most cases. As an Aussie who lived in the UK for about 10 years and the US for about 2 I have come to understand the culture of all these places and so love all versions of BB.

Derrick won because of the terribly weak gameplay. It's turning into a soft show now after the more interesting one season before, and in that sense it's comparable to the trash CH5 want to make of the British one now and the showmance joke of the Australian one.

Derrick won because he managed the culture and attitude of the house. He created an environment where he could control them and have things go his way. As a live feed viewer I watched him line things up and use every opportunity to his own advantage. There were many situations where he had to work hard to get things to go the way he wanted and he put in the time and patience to work his fellow HMs. Yes he made it look easy but even ex HMs acknowledge that Derrick played an incredible game he was on 24/7 and several steps ahead of his competitors.
Also Derrick's attitude to the game suggests that he would have been able to adapt to any set of HMs and create a strategy to fit any situation.

Production for BBUS is AWFUL just look at how rehearsed their DR entries are for starters. BBCanada stole the format and shit all over BBUS tbh.


Derrick really wasn't all that kind, he was low-key sexist and had a hideous self-righteous streak, like when he yelled at Zach for not sacrificing himself for him and equated it to taking food out of his baby's mouth