Missed most of his act, I was so bored I went to make a cuppa. Can't believe he beat the choir!
Jamie Raven's Lemon Had A Huge Hole in it
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I just can't believe he would come to a final with a trick that poor.
Why did he take the bag from the box?
What was the point of it being in the box in the first place?
It was either
1) he messed up and took the bag himself
2) it was a terrible trick in a bag!
Which one was it?
Why did he take the bag from the box?
What was the point of it being in the box in the first place?
It was either
1) he messed up and took the bag himself
2) it was a terrible trick in a bag!
Which one was it?
Just watched a tutorial for the hidden deck on youtube.
Only a few minutes, quite simple, yet clever in a way.
Just need to learn to count to eleven and I might be on BGT next year.
So the card he stuck in his top pocket at the beginning, did he forget about it, hence the "cut" gesture at the end ?
Only a few minutes, quite simple, yet clever in a way.
Just need to learn to count to eleven and I might be on BGT next year.
So the card he stuck in his top pocket at the beginning, did he forget about it, hence the "cut" gesture at the end ?
Jamie Raven is the worst magician that I have ever seen. I feel bad for saying this as he seems like a nice man, but really... the helicopter thing wasn't really a trick at all. I can't believe he came second.
Originally Posted by egghead1:
“Seeing as Im male it would be a bit tricky plus im not angry.I I like magic and I will defend the art,couldnt care less about the performance of Jamie. But IMO it was not terrible.
Codeblue is stupid and cannot grasp its a magic trick.
Hey codeblue check this out OMG Derren Brown doing a shop bought trick!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI5-NDiY7IM”
“Seeing as Im male it would be a bit tricky plus im not angry.I I like magic and I will defend the art,couldnt care less about the performance of Jamie. But IMO it was not terrible.
Codeblue is stupid and cannot grasp its a magic trick.
Hey codeblue check this out OMG Derren Brown doing a shop bought trick!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI5-NDiY7IM”
You come across very angry and aggressive.
If you like magic and defend the art, why then defend those that do it a disservice like Raven did with his poorly constructed, amateurish show?
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Oh don't get me wrong, the invisible deck is a great trick.
However, magicians usually put their own take on it instead of just copying the dvd that comes with the gimmick deck.
No talent is needed, just £5”
“Oh don't get me wrong, the invisible deck is a great trick.
However, magicians usually put their own take on it instead of just copying the dvd that comes with the gimmick deck.
No talent is needed, just £5”
I know that trick, it is still very difficult to pull off and requires quick thought ... and talent above most other acts, even allowing for it being one of the more well known tricks.
He was criticised in the main thread for it being so simple as he had 52 different decks in his pockets of a large coat and knows which one to pull out.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“No magician wiprth their salt would grab the bag and put their hand in.
It was so bad, I'm sure it was actually a mistake and he had to go to plan b.
If this was his best trick, on the final of the biggest tv talent show, then I'm embarrassed.”
“No magician wiprth their salt would grab the bag and put their hand in.
It was so bad, I'm sure it was actually a mistake and he had to go to plan b.
If this was his best trick, on the final of the biggest tv talent show, then I'm embarrassed.”
Not sure if anyone is interested in your embarrassment.
Originally Posted by d0lphin:
“That would have been impossible though.
We all know it's a sleight of hand but some of us enjoy it for what it is without trying to analyse it. I think he deserved to come second and I hope he makes a career from appearing on the show.”
“That would have been impossible though.
We all know it's a sleight of hand but some of us enjoy it for what it is without trying to analyse it. I think he deserved to come second and I hope he makes a career from appearing on the show.”
Seconded.
Originally Posted by natalian:
“Perhaps next year you could enter and show us how real magic is done. If a talentless magician can be runner up you would be a shoe in for the title.”
“Perhaps next year you could enter and show us how real magic is done. If a talentless magician can be runner up you would be a shoe in for the title.”
Great idea.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“I just can't believe he would come to a final with a trick that poor.
Why did he take the bag from the box?
What was the point of it being in the box in the first place?
It was either
1) he messed up and took the bag himself
2) it was a terrible trick in a bag!
Which one was it?”
“I just can't believe he would come to a final with a trick that poor.
Why did he take the bag from the box?
What was the point of it being in the box in the first place?
It was either
1) he messed up and took the bag himself
2) it was a terrible trick in a bag!
Which one was it?”
Option 3.
It was entertaining.
Sorry to say that your posts do not fulfill that remit.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“I just can't believe he would come to a final with a trick that poor.
Why did he take the bag from the box?”
“I just can't believe he would come to a final with a trick that poor.
Why did he take the bag from the box?”
My answers are from an audience point of view
HE removed the bag to take out and cut open the lemon.
[quote]What was the point of it being in the box in the first place?
Drama.Suspense makes trick interesting.Impossible location means magician cant have put bill in there.
Quote:
“
1) he messed up and took the bag himself
2) it was a terrible trick in a bag!
Which one was it?”
“
1) he messed up and took the bag himself
2) it was a terrible trick in a bag!
Which one was it?”
None of the above.
Same reason lemon was in a balloon on this version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvf3RsnQGMY
Originally Posted by D_Peugeot:
“You come across very angry and aggressive.
If you like magic and defend the art, why then defend those that do it a disservice like Raven did with his poorly constructed, amateurish show?”
“You come across very angry and aggressive.
If you like magic and defend the art, why then defend those that do it a disservice like Raven did with his poorly constructed, amateurish show?”
In your opinion.
His semi final performance wasnt great but tonights was good,it made sense,all tied in and nothing went wrong.
Originally Posted by egghead1:
“In your opinion.
His semi final performance wasnt great but tonights was good,it made sense,all tied in and nothing went wrong.”
“In your opinion.
His semi final performance wasnt great but tonights was good,it made sense,all tied in and nothing went wrong.”
Other than his complete inability to dress up his act as entertaining, other than his complete lack of charisma, other than the gaping great hole in his lemon.
Originally Posted by D_Peugeot:
“Other than his complete inability to dress up his act as entertaining, other than his complete lack of charisma, other than the gaping great hole in his lemon.”
“Other than his complete inability to dress up his act as entertaining, other than his complete lack of charisma, other than the gaping great hole in his lemon.”
As i said nothing went wrong. The note was stuck in the hole thus when removed u could see a hole obviously.
Originally Posted by egghead1:
“As i said nothing went wrong. The note was stuck in the hole thus when removed u could see a hole obviously.”
“As i said nothing went wrong. The note was stuck in the hole thus when removed u could see a hole obviously.”
So then he failed to deceive the audience which is what a sleight-of-hand act is supposed to do.
Are you just defending this garbage out of purely misguided loyalty to him, or are you just wilfully ignorant?
It was as awful as the "shoe" trick from the semi where we could see he left it before walking off.
I'm not a massive fan of magic (I used to be, apparently). However, I thought it was weird that he took the bag out himself.
Originally Posted by D_Peugeot:
“
So then he failed to deceive the audience which is what a sleight-of-hand act is supposed to do.
Are you just defending this garbage out of purely misguided loyalty to him, or are you just wilfully ignorant?
It was as awful as the "shoe" trick from the semi where we could see he left it before walking off.”
“
So then he failed to deceive the audience which is what a sleight-of-hand act is supposed to do.
Are you just defending this garbage out of purely misguided loyalty to him, or are you just wilfully ignorant?
It was as awful as the "shoe" trick from the semi where we could see he left it before walking off.”
Resorting to rudeness belittles any point you want to make.
I'd (politely) ask you to please desist.
Originally Posted by D_Peugeot:
“
So then he failed to deceive the audience which is what a sleight-of-hand act is supposed to do.
Are you just defending this garbage out of purely misguided loyalty to him, or are you just wilfully ignorant?
It was as awful as the "shoe" trick from the semi where we could see he left it before walking off.”
“
So then he failed to deceive the audience which is what a sleight-of-hand act is supposed to do.
Are you just defending this garbage out of purely misguided loyalty to him, or are you just wilfully ignorant?
It was as awful as the "shoe" trick from the semi where we could see he left it before walking off.”
The deception part is how the bill firstly changed into a piece of paper with "Look in box" on it then secondly appeared in lemon. Maybe you can talk me through it seeing as he failed so you must know how it all works.
Off you go.
So whats the point in this debate......Its got us all talking.....instead of watching the winner...A DOG....who anyone with patience could teach their own pooch to do....no-one was non-plussed and looking for ."how did he do that?".......Any trained Dog can do tricks....or amazing things.......I met a Guide Dog today which was amazing.......proof that DOGS can be trained.....but the Magician got everyone fired up as to "How did he do that?".so think on.....As for Lizzie.I am sure she sill be in her " Iam not amused" mode watching a DOG at the London Palladium....!!!
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“Resorting to rudeness belittles any point you want to make.
I'd (politely) ask you to please desist.”
“Resorting to rudeness belittles any point you want to make.
I'd (politely) ask you to please desist.”
Oh please. Go cry at egghead calling people "stupid" before you roll out your misplaced moral outrage.
Originally Posted by egghead1:
“The deception part is how the bill firstly changed into a piece of paper with "Look in box" on it then secondly appeared in lemon. Maybe you can talk me through it seeing as he failed so you must know how it all works.
Off you go.”
“The deception part is how the bill firstly changed into a piece of paper with "Look in box" on it then secondly appeared in lemon. Maybe you can talk me through it seeing as he failed so you must know how it all works.
Off you go.”
The deception is how the note ended up in the lemon. But this was shown how. It failed.
Originally Posted by egghead1:
“The deception part is how the bill firstly changed into a piece of paper with "Look in box" on it then secondly appeared in lemon. Maybe you can talk me through it seeing as he failed so you must know how it all works.
Off you go.”
“The deception part is how the bill firstly changed into a piece of paper with "Look in box" on it then secondly appeared in lemon. Maybe you can talk me through it seeing as he failed so you must know how it all works.
Off you go.”
Please do.
Originally Posted by Jack RusselsMum:
“So whats the point in this debate......Its got us all talking.....instead of watching the winner...A DOG....who anyone with patience could teach their own pooch to do....no-one was non-plussed and looking for ."how did he do that?".......Any trained Dog can do tricks....or amazing things.......I met a Guide Dog today which was amazing.......proof that DOGS can be trained.....but the Magician got everyone fired up as to "How did he do that?".so think on.....As for Lizzie.I am sure she sill be in her " Iam not amused" mode watching a DOG at the London Palladium....!!!”
“So whats the point in this debate......Its got us all talking.....instead of watching the winner...A DOG....who anyone with patience could teach their own pooch to do....no-one was non-plussed and looking for ."how did he do that?".......Any trained Dog can do tricks....or amazing things.......I met a Guide Dog today which was amazing.......proof that DOGS can be trained.....but the Magician got everyone fired up as to "How did he do that?".so think on.....As for Lizzie.I am sure she sill be in her " Iam not amused" mode watching a DOG at the London Palladium....!!!”
You do know this thread is about Jamie Raven and NOT the winner, right?
Originally Posted by D_Peugeot:
“The deception is how the note ended up in the lemon. But this was shown how. It failed.”
“The deception is how the note ended up in the lemon. But this was shown how. It failed.”
Still waiting.
I've already seen at least two videos just posted on YouTube showing how to do the lemon trick. People trying to clock up views and subscribers on their own channels on the back of his fame.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“No magician wiprth their salt would grab the bag and put their hand in.”
“No magician wiprth their salt would grab the bag and put their hand in.”
Incorrect.
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