Caught up with the entire show yesterday and pleasantly surprised to see I'm not the only one who loves jess i didn't know public opinion whist watching and thought girls would vote her off! She's a great character i like her. Jon and Hannah are so contrived and boring and whilst naomi is ok i can't stand josh for the way he treated jess i hope he gets what's coming. I like jess and max as a couple so if naomi steals from jess a second time will be disappointed in her...

Excellent post Becky agree with all your observations:. And welcome to the site

Both those shows have rations and competitions to earn food.

I'm assuming the cast will just the same food as the crew - typically they'd have a caterer or daily takeaway runs.

I am not sure about Naomi she hasn't really done or said anything wrong except fall for the pretty person as we all do, and now she realizes he is a toddler she maybe wants to move on

I'm not sure I agree. I think she's a bit of a game player and slightly more devious than we first thought. Her small cute blondeness may well disguise a bit of a sting in her tail. Watch out Luis and Cally.

I don't get the Naomi hate. She clearly doesn't like Josh, I mean she does like him a little bit, but she's not in love with him. And she never pretended to be. I can respect that.

And I really don't think she was flirting with Luis or acting jealous when Cally arrived. She was actually friendly and quite nice. I feel like Naomi is getting picked on by the public because she's the best looking girl there. It's always the same thing, first it was Jess, now that Jess is not the best looking girl anymore, she's starting to get support.

Max will PROBABLY dump Jess for Naomi and I doubt Max will get any heat for that, Naomi will get all of it. And the thing is... It's not Naomi's fault the guys fancy her over Jess or any of the other girls.

I really hope Naomi can somehow survive the eviction vote this week (which is highly unlikely), because IMO she makes the show. And she's the only classy and truly good looking girl in there.

Hate is a bit of a strong word and a wrong one. As the saying goes, don't hate the player, hate the game. Nothing wrong with going in with a game plan and a few tactics. We wouldn't watch it if it was all rainbows and kittens.

I can understand Naomi very quickly realising Josh is far to immature as he's an absolute idiot.

What does annoy me about her is that it's Jess again that she's going to f over. Someone with a good game plan would think that won't look good.

It's pretty clear she wants Luis, why not be honest instead of looking for another lap dog. I really hope Max sticks with Jess as at least she's an open flirt and not game playing. Hopefully he's been there long enough to keep his wits about him. He'll go down in my estimations if he trots after Naomi like a good little puppy.

They clearly still think Jess is hated based on the way Beth reacted to her and they literally queue up to stab her in the back.

I'll laugh when people start getting evicted based on how nasty they are to Jess.

I'd love for Josh to be evicted this week, but it will probably be Lauren and Travis.

If a 'pretty person', (not that I ever thought Josh was), has an ugly personality, then they quickly become unattractive. I would guess that most people watching the show could see pretty much from the beginning that Josh was immature and really not a nice guy, and as Naomi had been watching, I thought it strange that she chose him at all. I never sensed any attraction on her part, so perhaps the challenge for her was wresting him from Jess.


BIB1 She may not have pretended to be in love with him, but she certainly pretended to Josh that she fancied him, when it was apparent to we viewers that she didn't.

BIB2 I disagree that 'Max will PROBABLY dump Jess for Naomi'. Max has shown himself to be an astute guy and he can 'PROBABLY' see that Naomi is not the nice everyday girl she first portrayed herself as when she was being interviewed by Caroline. She is shallow and doesn't have any depth to herself nor her conversation.
Naomi is like the Queen in Snow White, she needs constant reassurance that she is the fairest in the land, perhaps a hangover from her schooldays, when she wasn't.

The thing is, we've all seen that Naomi is not afraid to act on her feelings, so if she was attracted to Luis, what makes you think she wouldn't make a move on him?

It seems like she's into MAX and she's making it clear.

And, again, maybe the problem is not Naomi trying to "f Jess over", Jess and Naomi just were interested in the same guys and both guys had a chance to chose 1 or the other. It's not they HAVE to be with Naomi over Jess. If they prefer Naomi, maybe there's a reason and she's not as bad as people think?

Let's see how this Jess/Max/Naomi thing plays out. I think everyone here agrees Max is a nice guy, so he will make the right decision. Let's see who he picks...

Delightful, but Naomi DID fancy him and said multiple times that she thinks Josh is very attractive and is her type looks wise. But she never pretended to be in love with him, she just always said that out of all the boys in the villa, Josh was her favorite.

Is this the first time its moved to 10pm, so it doesnt clash with BB, they must be losing the rating war

Jon being told by production to stir and have a chat again

Jon's got his producers hat on again

Wow not sure Josh knew they were breaking up and yet she sort of got him to believe that he did it.

She is def a good player! Have to hand it to her.

Should have stuck with Jess then Josh!

Naomi's arms are painfully thin, I find her quite disturbing to look at

Thing is,, i don't believe any of this splitting up and getting with someone else is real, its obviously scripted and staged

Because if she "stole" (I put in inverted commas as I accept that no one is a real couple in there) from a sweet well loved girl, she knows she'd look awful. Everybody thinks Jess is hated and therefore fair game. If Jess wasn't there I don't think Naomi would move onto anyone else unless they were like Lauren and Luis and clearly not getting together. She'd stick with Josh to the bitter end. She even discounted Luis because of Cally, but wouldn't discount Max because of Jess.

I'm not removing responsibility from the men here either, but again I imagine the boys also think they can get away with dumping Jess as they believe she's not well liked. This is why Maxwill go down in my estimations if he leaps At the first chance

Naomi couldn't care less, she just keeps awkwardly giggling!

I find Max a bit smarmy tbh

Jon turning his hand at directing now

Max can't win in this conversation

Naomi is so sly!!!! Really like Jess tonight, she's got a good heart really

Okay well Naomi and Max have gone massively massively down in my estimation, but so will Jess if she even thinks about liking that horrid Josh again.

If Slyomi does end up with Max, they might well find themselves on the chopping block when nominations come round again.