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Even the Sun front page attacking Jules and Matisse now |
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Good hopefully she will have to give her prize money back or donate it to an animal charity.
Seriously: what's wrong with people? No wonder the rest of Europe hates us. |
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![]() People are just being ridiculous now. Surely people can't be this stupid? |
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I did not vote, but had I voted it would have been for the act - ie the trainer. The real talent here is that this lady is able to get dogs to do incredible things.
She is the act - the dogs would be nothing without her. The second place act was an illusionist - we don't expect full disclosure of his act. Why should we of hers? |
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Yeah, it's gotten to the point now where I can't tell who is being serious or just trolling.
Surely people can't be this stupid? |
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Worse than Johnny Depps Dogs
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By force?!
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Seems very churlish and mean spirited.
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Surely circus acts or music hall acts like this are old hat and if not banned should have been long ago...
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yes like the poor dogs were.......forced
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I think theres a more important issue here about dogs or any animals being trained in old circus acts... isnt this more to the point than her cheating the public on a silly show..
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I am sure the people who paid to vote for this act feel cheated. It be no difference than a magic act that appears in a different place using a double. If she was honest she have told and shown the other dog at the end, bet she have not got the votes then and she knew that!
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All those who are saying they voted for the act need to look at it a different way.
Say that a singer won, and then it turned out they were merely lip syncing, and the real vocals were provided by someone who was hidden behind part of the stage set. Would you still feel the same? It's the same principle, and you've still been deceived. |
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All those who are saying they voted for the act need to look at it a different way.
Say that a singer won, and then it turned out they were merely lip syncing, and the real vocals were provided by someone who was hidden behind part of the stage set. Would you still feel the same? It's the same principle, and you've still been deceived. |
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I don't like dog acts but surely people were voting for talented trainer and cute dog. As it was actually cute dogs plural, surely that's win win?!!! It's still the lady who won doing the training.
The magician had a massive hole in his lemon. Should he be disqualified for not doing REAL magic? Ridiculous! |
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I am sure the people who paid to vote for this act feel cheated. It be no difference than a magic act that appears in a different place using a double. If she was honest she have told and shown the other dog at the end, bet she have not got the votes then and she knew that!
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I am sure the people who paid to vote for this act feel cheated. It be no difference than a magic act that appears in a different place using a double. If she was honest she have told and shown the other dog at the end, bet she have not got the votes then and she knew that!
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All those who are saying they voted for the act need to look at it a different way.
Say that a singer won, and then it turned out they were merely lip syncing, and the real vocals were provided by someone who was hidden behind part of the stage set. Would you still feel the same? It's the same principle, and you've still been deceived. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this. Chase was a part of the act right from the semi finals anyway. |
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![]() It was dishonest because we were led to believe it was the one dog. If, the other dog had been applauded, at the end, as the performer of that trick - she may well have still won. There was a lot of money at stake & phooey about SC not being aware. Stuff & nonsense. |
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There are magic acts that use doubles. Your point is moot. Besides, it's their fault for paying to vote when you get five free ones on the app.
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Ok, but the singer comment above brings the point home.
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They wasn't 'forced' to do anything.
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wasnt they? of course they were... have you seen animals being trained...
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All those who are saying they voted for the act need to look at it a different way.
Say that a singer won, and then it turned out they were merely lip syncing, and the real vocals were provided by someone who was hidden behind part of the stage set. Would you still feel the same? It's the same principle, and you've still been deceived. Matisse still did 90% of the act so I couldn't care less who did the tightrope, it was still a dog she had trained to cross a tightrope. I saw posters complaining that Matisse looked uncomfortable crossing it and had clearly been forced to do it before this was revealed, now they're on her calling her a cheat so clearly some people are just determined to have a pop at the act regardless |
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No because their talent is singing, they're a solo singer. This talent was a lady who trains dogs and puts together comedy sketches using them. Yes Matisse is the main star but we knew of Chase's existence from the semi-final so for me its not an issue. I voted for the act based on the overall entertainment factor and the dedication of Jules in training her dogs to such a high standard. I would have felt the same if there were two dogs in the act or twenty.
Matisse still did 90% of the act so I couldn't care less who did the tightrope, it was still a dog she had trained to cross a tightrope. I saw posters complaining that Matisse looked uncomfortable crossing it and had clearly been forced to do it before this was revealed, now they're on her calling her a cheat so clearly some people are just determined to have a pop at the act regardless |
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Bet she knew if she was honest and brought out the other dog after the act, she would have lost votes and not won, and I recon she knew that, in my mind it fraud as we voted for Matissee, and not a stand-in
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