Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Have to agree with the OP, and the final should take place again.”
“Have to agree with the OP, and the final should take place again.”
Sure. Are you willing to pay for that?
This fake winner needs to be stripped of her win
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[quote=calamity;78352604]so Im a womble for caring about dogs being mistreated, you live in a fantasy
you really need to go read up on heel work to music and see the benefits these activities have for both dogs and owners.
Healthy happy well trained well adjusted dogs enjoying what they are doing and having a close bond with therir owner is more preferable to me than seeing a dog chained in a garden all day with no mental stimulation no physical contact, never taken for a walk or a dog that is used purely to chase down rabbits etc beaten when it doesn't perform then shut away till next time or a poor dog being used purely as a status symbol for some **** who wants to look hard.
Because working within rescue I have seen real cruelty cases that would make your hair curl. I have also seen rescued dogs collies especially those who have come from homes where they have been mistreated or neglected because owners get them without realising how much time and attention they need many have gone on to live wonderful lives with loving owners who understand that they need to be stimulated and trained to keep them happy and healthy. Heel work to music or doggy dancing is great for both owner and dog and it is all done with positive reward based training. I don't know why this idea persists that to have a dog do these things it must have been beaten. You will never get a dog to the standard of Matisse and chase by using harsh unacceptable methods.
Last edited by dottzie38 : 02-06-2015 at 15:42
you really need to go read up on heel work to music and see the benefits these activities have for both dogs and owners.
Healthy happy well trained well adjusted dogs enjoying what they are doing and having a close bond with therir owner is more preferable to me than seeing a dog chained in a garden all day with no mental stimulation no physical contact, never taken for a walk or a dog that is used purely to chase down rabbits etc beaten when it doesn't perform then shut away till next time or a poor dog being used purely as a status symbol for some **** who wants to look hard.
Because working within rescue I have seen real cruelty cases that would make your hair curl. I have also seen rescued dogs collies especially those who have come from homes where they have been mistreated or neglected because owners get them without realising how much time and attention they need many have gone on to live wonderful lives with loving owners who understand that they need to be stimulated and trained to keep them happy and healthy. Heel work to music or doggy dancing is great for both owner and dog and it is all done with positive reward based training. I don't know why this idea persists that to have a dog do these things it must have been beaten. You will never get a dog to the standard of Matisse and chase by using harsh unacceptable methods.
Last edited by dottzie38 : 02-06-2015 at 15:42
This is a classic case of fraud. The public was fooled by deceit and she should not get that money. The final act was performed under fraudulent activity.
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“This is a classic case of fraud. The public was fooled by deceit and she should not get that money. The final act was performed under fraudulent activity.”
“This is a classic case of fraud. The public was fooled by deceit and she should not get that money. The final act was performed under fraudulent activity.”
Again, this presumes (with plenty of past evidence with other acts that the show has interfered with) that it was HER decision.
It's laughable how people just want to scream out "burn the witch" without looking any further. I guess very little changes when a mob is involved.
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“Again, this presumes (with plenty of past evidence with other acts that the show has interfered with) that it was HER decision.
It's laughable how people just want to scream out "burn the witch" without looking any further. I guess very little changes when a mob is involved.”
“Again, this presumes (with plenty of past evidence with other acts that the show has interfered with) that it was HER decision.
It's laughable how people just want to scream out "burn the witch" without looking any further. I guess very little changes when a mob is involved.”
The public thought it was Mattise performing, it wasn't. The public thought it was voting for Mattise, they weren't. Fraud, plain and simple.
Winning by deceit.
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“The public thought it was Mattise performing, it wasn't. The public thought it was voting for Mattise, they weren't. Fraud, plain and simple.
Winning by deceit.”
“The public thought it was Mattise performing, it wasn't. The public thought it was voting for Mattise, they weren't. Fraud, plain and simple.
Winning by deceit.”
LOL
If that's fraud, then me walking downstairs is running.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“LOL
If that's fraud, then me walking downstairs is running.”
“LOL
If that's fraud, then me walking downstairs is running.”
She walked away with 250k under false pretence because the dog everyone thought was performing, actually wasn't. The magician should take her to court.
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“She walked away with 250k under false pretence because the dog everyone thought was performing, actually wasn't. The magician should take her to court.”
“She walked away with 250k under false pretence because the dog everyone thought was performing, actually wasn't. The magician should take her to court.”
LOL
I hope you realise how ridiculous you sound.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“LOL
I hope you realise how ridiculous you sound.”
“LOL
I hope you realise how ridiculous you sound.”
Pot, kettle.
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“She walked away with 250k under false pretence because the dog everyone thought was performing, actually wasn't. The magician should take her to court.”
“She walked away with 250k under false pretence because the dog everyone thought was performing, actually wasn't. The magician should take her to court.”
I doubt Jamie is that bothered about, his future is set.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“LOL
I hope you realise how ridiculous you sound.”
“LOL
I hope you realise how ridiculous you sound.”
It's actually not funny at all, you might have wanted her to win but it wasn't done fairly. That's the bottom line of it. When you have such a huge amount of money, it isn't funny, it's serious.
The magician could have done with that money and was robbed.
The magician wasnt robbed at all, Jules and Matisse got the most votes and won far and squaure, end of.
Originally Posted by xTonix:
“I doubt Jamie is that bothered about, his future is set.”
“I doubt Jamie is that bothered about, his future is set.”
Really? Will he make 250k this year or next? I'm not sure, fact is it was a competition for the prize money ultimately. Not everyone gains a lucrative career out of talent shows.
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“It's actually not funny at all, you might have wanted her to win but it wasn't done fairly. That's the bottom line of it. When you have such a huge amount of money, it isn't funny, it's serious.
The magician could have done with that money and was robbed.”
“It's actually not funny at all, you might have wanted her to win but it wasn't done fairly. That's the bottom line of it. When you have such a huge amount of money, it isn't funny, it's serious.
The magician could have done with that money and was robbed.”
How do you know? He might be a multi-millionaire for all we know. Just because he was filmed in a house for his backstory, doesn't mean it was all real
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“LOL
I hope you realise how ridiculous you sound.”
“LOL
I hope you realise how ridiculous you sound.”
Why this was cheating to get her hands on mega money,
Originally Posted by xTonix:
“The magician wasnt robbed at all, Jules and Matisse got the most votes and won far and squaure, end of.”
“The magician wasnt robbed at all, Jules and Matisse got the most votes and won far and squaure, end of.”
Won with a secret stand-in!
Originally Posted by xTonix:
“The magician wasnt robbed at all, Jules and Matisse got the most votes and won far and squaure, end of.”
“The magician wasnt robbed at all, Jules and Matisse got the most votes and won far and squaure, end of.”
That isn't true though is it because the public wasn't voting for the actual dog which put in the final performance. She basically won 250k without the main dog doing anything. That is laughable, easy money.
Originally Posted by Satnavvy:
“Can't believe anyone was stupid enough to vote for a crap dog act anyway”
“Can't believe anyone was stupid enough to vote for a crap dog act anyway”
I can't believe people vote at all
Originally Posted by Satnavvy:
“Can't believe anyone was stupid enough to vote for a crap dog act anyway”
“Can't believe anyone was stupid enough to vote for a crap dog act anyway”
I voted, and I am not stupid thank you.
Originally Posted by myscimitar:
“Using a fake dog and not telling the public, she was a cheat and needs to be stripped of the title and everyone who voted have the money refunded.”
“Using a fake dog and not telling the public, she was a cheat and needs to be stripped of the title and everyone who voted have the money refunded.”
Sorry if this is the level of things that makes you angry you have led a very charmed life and it sounds like you really do need to get out more.
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“That isn't true though is it because the public wasn't voting for the actual dog which put in the final performance. She basically won 250k without the main dog doing anything. That is laughable, easy money.”
“That isn't true though is it because the public wasn't voting for the actual dog which put in the final performance. She basically won 250k without the main dog doing anything. That is laughable, easy money.”
The main dog DID do things, more so then the dog walking on the rope, so your wrong.
Originally Posted by callmediva:
“How do you know? He might be a multi-millionaire for all we know. Just because he was filmed in a house for his backstory, doesn't mean it was all real”
“How do you know? He might be a multi-millionaire for all we know. Just because he was filmed in a house for his backstory, doesn't mean it was all real”
I doubt that very much.
If I was him I would be on the phone to a top lawyer as I'm typing this. Robbed of 250k under false pretence. Not funny.
Originally Posted by myscimitar:
“Won with a secret stand-in!”
“Won with a secret stand-in!”
The female magician got through to the semis by using a secret stand in, so that she could run back stage and appear on a balcony. Should she be disqualified too? If so then there should be another act that got through, maybe they need to run the whole series again
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