Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“I agree it's not exactly the same thing but disagree that females can't/don't get excited by shirtless males. Especially the abs. I see girls having shirtless males on their walls, on the show Arrow for example females on social media go crazy for scenes where the male leads have no shirts on... there's some similar discussion that i've seen going on from females about males abs/chest like how some guys talk of girls bodies.
Again, i do agree with your general point in that it's not exactly the same thing for a male to expose his bare chest that it is for a female to do so.... but i would possibly say that a female showing her cleavage could be along the same lines as male having his shirt off, something to that extent.”
Its the nipples and complete exposure that I'm talking about so I agree with your last sentence: cleavage is similar to abs out. When a straight woman appreciates a man's bare chest, she's appreciating muscle, hardness, virility, manliness, skin tone, colour, hair or no hair etc, but we're not having a primitive "phwoargh id love to get my hands or mouth on those". We may TALK about men's bodies in similar ways, but seriously, what straight woman do you know gets a sexual kick simply from looking at a chest just on its own? It's not really a 'rude' interest, for want of a better word.